Thread: Article: Twins Trade Francisco Liriano To White Sox

Liriano just traded to the White Sox for 2 minor leaguers. infielder Eduardo Escobar and left-hander Pedro Hernandez

Well, the haul is better than a bag of balls.....but not by much!

What happened to trying to get a young upside arm? These are past their prime prospects with zero upside. Will add some depth at AAA I guess.

Why would we make a trade if we weren't going to get anything? Is Bill Smith holding Terry Ryan hostage and making decisions himself still?

Originally Posted by syves

Why would we make a trade if we weren't going to get anything? Is Bill Smith holding Terry Ryan hostage and making decisions himself still?

Just remember that while Billy was the GM he deferred all scouting and personnel moves to TR and his good ole boys. Billy is responsible for the Mauer contract and other terrible contracts but TR and the Good Ole Boys are the reason there is no talent in the organization. This trade is more of the same.

Originally Posted by twinswon1991

Well, the haul is better than a bag of balls.....but not by much!

What happened to trying to get a young upside arm? These are past their prime prospects with zero upside. Will add some depth at AAA I guess.

Not a great haul but I wouldn't go that far. Both only 23... curious how the Twins make room on 40-man...

A no hit infielder and a very hittable lefty. Face Palm.

So a hitter with a career minor league OPS of .666 over ~2500 PAs, and a pitcher whose walks have trended up and K's have trended down every step up the ladder until his 17 innings of AAA ball this year.

Yay?

Looks like a utility guy and a reliever. Meh.

Originally Posted by edavis0308

A no hit infielder and a very hittable lefty. Face Palm.

Well, you certainly can't argue that there's no consistency in what the organization looks for.

Well, the predictions were that the Twin were going to flip him for jack **** - they were right. They could have at least traded him to the NL or at very least the AL East or West for jack ****. This cuts the cake... what a sham.

Baseball America had Escobar as Sox 10th rated player & Hernandex as 23rd best for San Diego..before his Dec trade to Sox for Carlos Quentin.
Cant really find anything good to say

I guess JR should have taken the Bundy/Machado offer when he had the chance.

This is just laughable. No reason whatsoever to trade Liriano for this garbage.

Originally Posted by notoriousgod71

This is just laughable. No reason whatsoever to trade Liriano for this garbage.

Hey, what are the odds you could get the 20-something best Padres prospect with a sandwich pick?

Just one more reason that TR no longer has it as a GM, he had his fingers all over BS's moves as well.

Hernandez still has only made 7 appearances in AAA, 6 starts & 21gms 20 starts @ AA @ age 23.
BAmerica says he occasionally hits 95 but mostly is in low 90s but is gonna be a reliever if he's to be a major leaguer.

40 man roster wise....Luis Perdomo could be gone already

Escobar was ranked the Sox #8 prospect by fangraphs - strong glove, no bat - "CAREER OUTLOOK: There is no sign of an opportunity for Escobar to start at shortstop anytime soon in Chicago so he’ll either be trade bait or end up filling a utility role for the club. Either way he offers enough potential to put forth a respectable big league career."

Frankly, this seems like what a Liriano haul should've looked like.

Originally Posted by twinswon1991

Just remember that while Billy was the GM he deferred all scouting and personnel moves to TR and his good ole boys. Billy is responsible for the Mauer contract and other terrible contracts but TR and the Good Ole Boys are the reason there is no talent in the organization. This trade is more of the same.

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Both players are headed to AAA....PJ Walters to 60 day DL....who comes up from AAA as they were at 24 players

I'm coining the phrase "Mateo Tolberto" to be used for any reference to "utility guy from the Liriano trade" from this point forward.