Thread: John Shipley: Pohlad Hopes Ryan will be Permanent GM

http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_2...pes-terry-ryan

"In our minds, he's permanent, but I can't speak for Terry," Pohlad said as he watched batting practice at Target Field on Friday, July 27. "We don't have any desire to see a change there, but we know that he's got to make that decision."

................. Nobody cares. It's the Twins. If it isn't JR, it will be BS. JR had his moments, BS ruined our dreams. Either way, the Twins aren't players. Ther are big and small markets, but there is no demand that the Twins make moves. This fanbase does not care!

I kind of assumed Krivisky was being groomed for the job.

The good old boy's of summer.

Wasn't Pohlad Jr who gave a public vote of confidence through the TC press to Bill Smith after the 99 loss season a couple weeks before he canned him? This is indeed good news then

Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan

I kind of assumed Krivisky was being groomed for the job.

I assume Krivisky too--I also think one year is not long enough to judge TR. He has to have time to recover from Bill Smith trades (like Delmon Young, Wilson Ramos) and build the system. The Twins tradeable assets (Span, Willingham, Revere) are limited.

Originally Posted by thrylos98

Wasn't Pohlad Jr who gave a public vote of confidence through the TC press to Bill Smith after the 99 loss season a couple weeks before he canned him? This is indeed good news then

Except Ryan has done a damn fine job as GM this year, unless you think the Willingham and Doumit signings were garbage?

Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave

Except Ryan has done a damn fine job as GM this year, unless you think the Willingham and Doumit signings were garbage?

What? They are going to lose 90 games again, and didn't get any younger. Willingham and Doumit replaced guys they let leave, they did not sign one FA that successfully upgraded a position they didn't let leave other than the bullpen, which impacts less than 33% of the innings played. They did nothing (successful) to make the team any better at all. Nothing.

Of course he wants him back, the fans never blame Ryan for anything, even when they cut payroll in the third year of a new stadium. He's teflon.

Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave

Except Ryan has done a damn fine job as GM this year, unless you think the Willingham and Doumit signings were garbage?

once again terry"curly "ryan proved its better to be lucky then good...when he was trading a.j. he wanted boof bonser, not francisco , he stated with out boof i dont make the deal...he then stated boof was the key player of the trade....now he had 4 free agents, he offered all 4 pay cuts to return and only matt"the crapper" accepted, so ryan had to replace power pitching and try to fix a middle infield....he got lucky with willingham. doughnut(doumit) was an acceptible player to obtain , but marquis? carroll zumyaya(i liked this signing,but expected him to reinjure himself)terry ryan did nothing to fix the twins he came in got bargin basement band-aids over the hill players and sold the kool-aid to the fans and players....

its time for pohlad to be held accountable for his team...spend some of the 62 million they earned in 2011 and with payroll cuts and attendence twins llc are in line to profit even more this year....so go get a pair of front line pitchers resign baker to a incentive ladden contract hope diamond and the other 2 kids improve and that liam hendriks makes the same jump that scotty did this year...but we need 2 ,read it 2 front of the rotation pitchers..
the only credit i give ryan is for sifting through the garbage pile to find some arms for the pen ....

Ryan is just as guilty as BS for the BS years. BS was a money man and he relied on TR and his good old boys for perssonnel decisions. TR has made this team worse for the future by not investing on young FA building blocks and failing to spend the full draft allotment to upgrade the farm.

If he doesnt cash in the old vets like Willy, Frankie, Span etc for future building blocks he has done a. worse job than BS.

Originally Posted by johnnydakota

once again terry"curly "ryan proved its better to be lucky then good...when he was trading a.j. he wanted boof bonser, not francisco , he stated with out boof i dont make the deal...he then stated boof was the key player of the trade....now he had 4 free agents, he offered all 4 pay cuts to return and only matt"the crapper" accepted, so ryan had to replace power pitching and try to fix a middle infield....he got lucky with willingham. doughnut(doumit) was an acceptible player to obtain , but marquis? carroll zumyaya(i liked this signing,but expected him to reinjure himself)terry ryan did nothing to fix the twins he came in got bargin basement band-aids over the hill players and sold the kool-aid to the fans and players....

its time for pohlad to be held accountable for his team...spend some of the 62 million they earned in 2011 and with payroll cuts and attendence twins llc are in line to profit even more this year....so go get a pair of front line pitchers resign baker to a incentive ladden contract hope diamond and the other 2 kids improve and that liam hendriks makes the same jump that scotty did this year...but we need 2 ,read it 2 front of the rotation pitchers..
the only credit i give ryan is for sifting through the garbage pile to find some arms for the pen ....

The AJ deal - all three guys were keys to the trade. Seattle had a good offer as well which required SF to kick in Liriano to outbid Seattle. If any of the three players were excluded, Ryan wouldn't have done the deal. Ryan dramatically improved the teams offense - we were nearly as bad in 2011 as the 2010 Mariners. As a team, our OPS+ went from 84 to about 100 in one offseason. Ryan also dramatically improved our bullpen to the point that we have a few tradeable assets there. The rotation fell apart but Ryan deserves a chance to fix that. And, by the way, suggesting that Baker is an answer for next year is ridiculous. He'll be coming off TJ surgery. He'll struggle a lot.

is why i said incentilve ladden contract... in june or july ,you wouldnt want a scott baker to be called up to replace jaime moyer or jason marquis or posible replace bartolo colon..you know the guy terry "curly"ryan will sign on the cheap and try to claim is just the inning eater we need to become a respectible and feared rotation....? and as for his nickname, curly its because he is 1 of the 3 stooges that pohlad owns

Lol so all of Ryan's great trades and pick ups were "luck" and the ones that didn't work out were his fault.

A lot of great baseball minds in this thread.

Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave

A lot of great baseball minds in this thread.

Nearly all show 20-20 hindsight, blind going forward on this board.

Originally Posted by crapforks

................. Nobody cares. It's the Twins. If it isn't JR, it will be BS. JR had his moments, BS ruined our dreams. Either way, the Twins aren't players. Ther are big and small markets, but there is no demand that the Twins make moves. This fanbase does not care!

Terry Ryan is not going to make moves based on what the Fans want or those on Twins Daily.
How is the Fan base suppose to show that they want to see moves? Signs are not allowed at Target Field.
The Fan Base cares about seeing a quality product on the Field. If not, they will continue the trend of showing up as empty seats.

Originally Posted by Highabove

Signs are not allowed at Target Field.

For real? Then what is all the circle-me-Bert junk?

Originally Posted by thrylos98

For real? Then what is all the circle-me-Bert junk?

I stand partially corrected. Would the Twins tolerate a trade ----------------inside the Stadium?

Originally Posted by thrylos98

For real? Then what is all the circle-me-Bert junk?

Only hand-held signs are allowed. No bed sheets with spray paint. Although I have regulary seen a "spans fans" hanging from the upper deck behind home plate.

I believe it to be a more of a selectively enforced policy.

If you try and hang a sign that reads "trade everybody and start over" sign, I think it would be removed pretty quickly.

Originally Posted by old nurse

Nearly all show 20-20 hindsight, blind going forward on this board.

Really? You think questioning Marquis and Capps signings is hindsight? I don't think that word means what you think it means*

*if you don't know what movie that is from, I feel bad for you...

Originally Posted by gunnarthor

Ryan dramatically improved the teams offense - we were nearly as bad in 2011 as the 2010 Mariners. As a team, our OPS+ went from 84 to about 100 in one offseason.

He did do an amazing job of making Mauer healthy, getting Revere and Butera's BABIPs to jump 40 and 100 points,