07-23-2012, 07:47 AM #41
07-23-2012, 08:59 AM #42
07-23-2012, 09:03 AM #43
07-23-2012, 09:10 AM #44
Having moved and changed jobs on a number of occasion, I think it is safe to say that it is a stressful experience. I realize that these guys aren't facing circumstances like what Jason Marquis faced earlier this season, but that doesn't take away from the stress of the situation. Add to it that these guys basically live out of a suitcase from April to October, which is hardly a cakewalk. The idea that this is simply a kids game and is unstressful is rather lazy if you ask me. These guys are people who have to deal with families, travel, and everything else just like the rest of us. Just because they make a lot of money doesn't somehow make these issues go away.
07-23-2012, 09:12 AM #45
Going back to some of the earlier comments about stress, I actually think that stress is feeling like you don't have control of the situation.
So, to me, Span's situation would be more stressful than Liriano's because Span is locked into a contract through 2014 -- and has no ability to make his own choices until after that season. Liriano becomes a free agent after this season so regardless of what happens, he only has to live with it for a few months.
And, some people have a greater need for control than others -- usually these are also people who don't react well to change becaue it affects their control (that is control over their own circumstances not necessarily control over others).
I have a feeling from his tweets last year that Span may be someone who needs that control -- it may be part of why he wanted to sign a long-term contract (considered by many to be team-friendly even at the time) in the first place. It gave him some certainty over a period of time.
And that is also why all the talk of trades might be more stressful to him than it might be to others in the same situation.
07-23-2012, 09:19 AM #46
Dealing with a family situation (as Marquis did) or being traded is a whole different thing. It is stressful because you have no way of knowing what will happen.
And each person's view on this question may well depend upon how much of a control freak you are personally. (Since I am one, that may well explain why I think not having a say in where you will be for the next few years would be incredibly stressful)
07-23-2012, 11:51 AM #47
Is it too stressful for them when they're told theyre leaving Rochester on the next flight to Minneapolis? Perhaps all in season promotions should come with two weeks notice?
A major leaguer getting traded is going to have the team pick up the expenses, have a flunky waiting to help him find a place to live, have his personal effects packed up and shipped by others, etc etc.
Maybe I'm just a cynical old bastard, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for pampered millionaires getting "stressed" over something they signed up for.
07-23-2012, 11:59 AM #48
07-23-2012, 12:12 PM #49
Shouldn't've backed off Chief. If the coaches can't handle their agony in a few sentences they should just laminate your comment and hand it to them. Their stress is pretty much the same stress I feel when I get a piece of road tar on my motorcycle.
Makes me think of the old Martin Mull song "Rich Man's Blues"..."I felt so low down I threw my drink across the lawn."
07-23-2012, 12:13 PM #50
No, I'm not comparing it. Someone else brought up Marquis earlier.
Of course the stress of dealing with an injured child (or spouse or parent or other loved one) is greater than the stress of moving to another city.
But changing jobs or moving to another location is a pretty high stress factor as I recall from all those cute little lists they publish from time to time on life's stressors. And, even when it is by choice, its not really routine.
My point was that most at bats for a player (even in front of 30,000 fans) are somewhat routine. Does that mean that he doesn't get stressed? Of course not. And SOME at bat situations are very stressful, I'm sure.
But overall, I think that the possibility of being traded -- and in having no say in where you go -- is probably more stressful than routine at bats for which the player has trained.
07-23-2012, 12:17 PM #51
Why its not correct to compare our jobs getting transferred to baseball is players only play 6/7month seasons....they still go home for 5months & dont work....do workout but its not work.
07-23-2012, 12:27 PM #52
These guys are professionals, if they are concerned with outside issues (such as being the rumor of trades) they should keep it inside and continue to do their jobs. Just like everyone else is expected to do in their day to day lives.
I still think the stress of playing in front of 40k fans and millions on TV is much greater then "oh we might have to move soon"
07-23-2012, 03:29 PM #53
Pro sports is like musical chairs, the game show. Denard should realize that, along with every other player. Play hard, and then hope you get to sit with a good team for awhile, and make some money.
07-27-2012, 11:19 PM #54
07-27-2012, 11:44 PM #55
That doesnt mean they need our pity, and that's not what the story was saying. It just men's it's silly to think this stuff means NOTHING to them. It probably does, and they likely can't help but have it affect them.
07-28-2012, 12:24 AM #56
I enjoyed the article and agree that the "cloud" of a trade rumor could be stressful. Just because someone makes a lot of money and has flunkies to do the grunt work does not mean that he won't be stressed by some of the consequences of being traded.
I also agree with those who believe that it is good business to treat your employees with respect and with concern for their personal lives. As fans, we expect players to give 110% for the team. If the team perceives that the GM is a coldblooded *******, I think that this could hurt team morale. But if the GM genuinely cares about every player as a human being, then this could build loyalty. My sense is that Terry Ryan seems to feel this way. Here is a quote from a recent article from the Twins website where Ryan talks about losing the opportunity to trade Capps and Pavano:
But Ryan refused to look at the injuries as a lost opportunity for the Twins, as he's more worried about them coming back healthy.
"I wouldn't be worried about trade chips when it comes to a guy's health," Ryan said.
Here is the link to the full article.
I understand that baseball is a business and that the GM sometimes has to make a tough decision. But I think that players will play harder when they think that the GM genuinely cares about them as human beings.