Thread: 2013 Starting Rotation

I don't think Pavano, Liriano, or Baker will be back. The year after rehab is typically poor for TJ patients so getting anything from Baker would be a stunner. He will be a free agent, as well. An innings eater coming off a season when he didn't eat innings is of little value. I don't expect many will offer much for Pavano, but the rebuilding Twins shouldn't take an interest unless he is truly dirt cheap. If Liriano isn't traded, he will probably net the Twins a draft pick, but I can't see the Twins outbidding everyone for Francisco on the open market and it would make zero sense for Frankie to sign an extension with free agency so close.

I think Gibson will have a chance to make the rotation out of the spring. If his recovery is complete, he will go the the AFL and if he pitches acceptably, he'll be in line to compete for a spot.

My plan for rotation 2013: Diamond is there. The best of the rotation for the balance of 2012 (De Vries, Walters, Deduno, Blackburn ) gets the edge for a spot. The Twins sign one guy in free agency who gets a spot and trade for a guy this month who is pencilled in for a spot. The final spot comes from the farm with Gibson the favorite if healthy and effective for the balance of 2012.

1-Shaun Marcum (3yrs)
2-Anibal Sanchez (4yrs)
3-Scott Diamond
4-Nick Blackburn
5-Liam Hendriks/Cole DeVries/Kyle Gibson

I want to see the Angels get another arm, like Liriano, before the deadline and look to retain said arm the following season. This would cause them to second guess picking up Dan Haren's $15.5 million option. After a down year, Dan Haren may not be able to command the contract normally expected and he may fit into the Twins budget if he has to settle for a more reasonable offer. He's still only 31 and is not someone with major injury concerns.

Originally Posted by Boom Boom

1. Diamond
2. Baker
3. Blackburn

= 111 losses

btw, the beej, bj hermsen is going to see innings in 2013 whether you like it or not.

Originally Posted by Vervehound

= 111 losses

btw, the beej, bj hermsen is going to see innings in 2013 whether you like it or not.

Verve coming out (of the closet) with his guns blazing.

Agreed we essentially have to do 2 things.....

1A Find the next Pavano.....Colby Lewis, McCarthy and Shawn Marcum are probably possibilities. (the key is to get them for less than 8.0 Million a year) like 5-7.

1B Bring back Scott Baker !!!!!!!!!!!!! -after declining option, bring him back for cheaper, incentive laden

1) FA 2) Scott Baker 3) Anibal Sanchez? (if others leave) 4) Diamond 5) Gibson, Hendriks, Blacky.................Bromberg, Lanigan, Hermsen, Darnell, Walters....

Originally Posted by stringer bell

I don't think Pavano, Liriano, or Baker will be back. The year after rehab is typically poor for TJ patients so getting anything from Baker would be a stunner. He will be a free agent, as well. An innings eater coming off a season when he didn't eat innings is of little value. I don't expect many will offer much for Pavano, but the rebuilding Twins shouldn't take an interest unless he is truly dirt cheap. If Liriano isn't traded, he will probably net the Twins a draft pick, but I can't see the Twins outbidding everyone for Francisco on the open market and it would make zero sense for Frankie to sign an extension with free agency so close.

So you're in favor of offering him $12M for next year? That's the only way you get a draft pick if he leaves - offering that much and having him turn it down.

Originally Posted by sbknudson

So you're in favor of offering him $12M for next year? That's the only way you get a draft pick if he leaves - offering that much and having him turn it down.

Honestly I'd rather give liriano 12 million for one year... than twice that for 3 years. I still don't trust him yet. He has the talent... but he's had the talent since 2006... Also... his pitching has improved since he switched back to violent mechanics... he's well on his way to another tommy john.

if the Twins don't trade liriano... don't re-sign him... and don't offer him enough money to net a draft pick... **** that would be stupid.