Thread: Jose Berrios

Jose Berrios record his 4th save tonight. In 5 appearances he has struck out 12 in 7 innings. It seems like a good start and hopefully more to come.

I'm curious if he'll remain in the bullpen all season, or if they'll eventually give him a start or two. Doesn't really matter because in the GCL, it's all about pitch count.

I forgot to note he is 4 for 4 in save opportunities. Not that it means much in the GCL, but hey it's someone to look forward to seeing in the future possibly closing out games.

Originally Posted by darin617

Not that it means much in the GCL

Doesn't mean much at any level.

I'm guessing that Berrios is pitching in the bullpen since he pitched a full HS schedule this spring and they don't want to wreck his arm. Other college/HS pitchers have pitched out of the pen the first season. He'll be a starter next season.

Yes, he will definitely be starting next season, whether it is at the GCL or Elizabethton level. Just curious how much they'll extend him this year. He certainly has an electric arm.

A full HS schedule? What does that have to do with anything? If he's thrown 150 innings already I can see limiting him this year, but otherwise I think its wasting his time. My opinion, is they should be getting him in a routine they want, let him throw every 5 days, and shut him down when they think he's reached his pitch limit. Having him throw like a reliever isn't helping anything. Right now they should be trying to build up arm strength and work on locating pitches, not blowing it by undisciplined hitters for one inning at a time. Couldn't disagree with this philosophy more. Strong, healthy arms aren't created by coddling.

*If there is more to the story then my bad

While I dont truly agree with the reasoning, MN gets a 'free' year out of Berrios.....meaning that with the new signing period, other #1 pick pitchers wouldnt participate at all during the drafted season.
My thought is if he continues to dominate, he should go to ELIZ & if it continues.....Beloit to start next year to challenge him.
I am following the way BALT did with Dylan Bundy....know he's a top top prospect, but if you dont challenge a guy..you dont know what he can accomplish.

Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz

now he's a top top prospect, but if you dont challenge a guy..you dont know what he can accomplish.

There might be other issues in play here other than can he strike out players in A ball. The Twins might want Berrios to get accumulated to life in the states, improve his English, work on education/finance issues etc. They might want him to not worry about baseball as much right now.

Originally Posted by gunnarthor

There might be other issues in play here other than can he strike out players in A ball. The Twins might want Berrios to get accumulated to life in the states, improve his English, work on education/finance issues etc. They might want him to not worry about baseball as much right now.

Absolutely that may be it, but wouldnt Puerto Rico...rather than Carribean/SAmerica for ex...be easier to adapt to the states??? Is it easier to adapt to the States in the Appalachians or in Wisconsin.....not much difference really.

Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz

Absolutely that may be it, but wouldnt Puerto Rico...rather than Carribean/SAmerica for ex...be easier to adapt to the states???

Easier but still not the same. Spanish is his native language, I have no idea how good his English is. So maybe the Twins want him in Florida for less culture shock and get him ready for E-Town or Beloit next year. At least, that's my guess.

He's in higschool... expecting him to dominate A ball is a bit ambitious... He's going to get time in Elizabethon first.

Originally Posted by gunnarthor

Easier but still not the same. Spanish is his native language, I have no idea how good his English is. So maybe the Twins want him in Florida for less culture shock and get him ready for E-Town or Beloit next year. At least, that's my guess.

dont get me wrong....Jose in GCL is where he should be.
This year is a freebie for MN in terms of development as former #1s signed late almost always & would pitch very infrequently in their draft year.
The ELIZ/Beloit thing for me is next year & next year only....just dont want 2 seasons in short season ball if he pitches well.
In terms of culture shock, that is what Im talkin about (Appalachians vs Wis). If he stays in EST till short season starts & then goes to Beloit, Im fine also.

Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz

dont get me wrong....Jose in GCL is where he should be.
This year is a freebie for MN in terms of development as former #1s signed late almost always & would pitch very infrequently in their draft year.
The ELIZ/Beloit thing for me is next year & next year only....just dont want 2 seasons in short season ball if he pitches well.
In terms of culture shock, that is what Im talkin about (Appalachians vs Wis). If he stays in EST till short season starts & then goes to Beloit, Im fine also.

Gotcha, and I agree.

as a 19 yr old (2011) first round pick (#28), Dodgers #1 prospect Zach Lee pitched the entire year in the MWL.....just to compare to someone a lil less high profile than Dylan Bundy. In his 2nd yr, at age 20, he has spent the first half at High A & promoted to AA for last 3 starts.
Why cant Berrios do this??

Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz

as a 19 yr old (2011) first round pick (#28), Dodgers #1 prospect Zach Lee pitched the entire year in the MWL.....just to compare to someone a lil less high profile than Dylan Bundy. In his 2nd yr, at age 20, he has spent the first half at High A & promoted to AA for last 3 starts.
Why cant Berrios do this??

Not the best example since Zach Lee got a 5.25M signing bonus. He was a high profile signee. Berrios will likely start in E-Town. There's a chance he starts in Beloit but I'm hoping for a mid year promotion.