Thread: Twins chances of making the playoffs this year

Originally Posted by thrylos98

The chances for the Twins to make the "playoffs" are close to zip (unless they tie for the division or one of the wildcards and need a single playoff game; those are the only playoffs in baseball...)
But they still have some chances to make the post-season.

This post is the worse.

Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge

1. Some event will have to occur where all or most the team is exposed to gamma rays or some other kind of radioactive event, thus leading to at least half of the team developing super human strength and some baseball beneficial super powers.

Can we suggest some possible super powers?

I suggest that a useful superpower for Plouffe would be to hit HRs when there are runners
on base. Pretty far fetched for Plouffe, I know. But it is gamma radiation.

Some event will have to occur where all or most the team is exposed to gamma rays or some other kind of radioactive event, thus leading to at least half of the team developing super human strength and some baseball beneficial super powers.


I did not know it was a baseball superpower to be able to throw the ball over the plate wiith some form of movement that makes it somewhat difficult to hit the ball? I heard that many teams have players that can do that. Some teams I hear have someone who can throw the ball over the plate so well that it is real hard to hiit the ball when they throw it. Perhaps the gamma rays ought to hit the scouts so they can find decent pitchers.

Originally Posted by 108 Double Stitches

Can we suggest some possible super powers?

I suggest that a useful superpower for Plouffe would be to hit HRs when there are runners
on base. Pretty far fetched for Plouffe, I know. But it is gamma radiation.

I am assuming your response is negative - if it wasn't meant to be... sorry. Plouffe has to be in the top 1-5 3B HR hitters, he is playing average+ defense, he has raised his average form .150ish to .250ish in a month or so. What the hell else do you want. You should be rooting for the guy instead of being a player hater. Plouffe has a legitimate argument for making the All-Star team, although it is a long shot. I guess you must be a White Sux fan. I imagine you must like your club's trade for Youk.

Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge

I am assuming your response is negative - if it wasn't meant to be... sorry.

Appology accepted. Way too many assumptions in your post.

I like Plouffe's progress. I like it a lot. But he is still really raw. His situational hitting is awful. He's
got his postion because the previous guy couldn't hack it. The general manager had to call him
out before his current run. And in prospect years, he is not young.

But he has been really hot, and that when this streak is over, what will it be? I am really happy his average is not .130 anymore. I want to believe Plouffe is growing into a full time regular 3B, a solution at a real position of need. So cautious optimism.

But what do I want for him? I want real development, not just a hot streak. If the guy just hits
20 solo HRs and he keeps leaving runners at 3rd base with 0 or 1 outs, his production is kind
of wash, if that. Your never as good as hotest streak, never as bad as your worst slump. So
I really don't want much different from him than what Terry Ryan wants to know -- what do the
Twins have in him?

His aggressive baserunning in the 2nd today was really nice to see. Keep it coming!

Originally Posted by 108 Double Stitches

Way too many assumptions in your post.

What assumptions? My post was a far fetched joke. If you are talking about my response to your response, be clear. Key me in dude. Are you scrutinized at your job all the time? When you are doing an above average job, are told only about your flaws and not commended on the things you do well. If your work performance stat sheet is above average, are you reamed by your boss for your mistakes? You seem to have this penchant for being the boss and a crumby one at that. If you have people who work under you... they will quit.

Originally Posted by thrylos98

The chances for the Twins to make the "playoffs" are close to zip (unless they tie for the division or one of the wildcards and need a single playoff game; those are the only playoffs in baseball...)
But they still have some chances to make the post-season.

Thanks for correcting this. Please also note that ESPN is making the same mistake -- on its website ESPN labels this "% chance of making the Playoffs" -- they even capitalize "Playoffs".

You can see this at: http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings

Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge

What assumptions? My post was a far fetched joke. If you are talking about my response to your response, be clear. Key me in dude. Are you scrutinized at your job all the time? When you are doing an above average job, are told only about your flaws and not commended on the things you do well. If your work performance stat sheet is above average, are you reamed by your boss for your mistakes? You seem to have this penchant for being the boss and a crumby one at that. If you have people who work under you... they will quit.

Hey, guys, let's keep in mind that we share the sacred bond of being Twins fans.

Two things that separates us from White Sox fans are that we can debate passionately while still being respectful and we don't eat bananas with our feet.

Originally Posted by 108 Double Stitches

Appology accepted. Way too many assumptions in your post.

I like Plouffe's progress. I like it a lot. But he is still really raw. His situational hitting is awful. He's
got his postion because the previous guy couldn't hack it. The general manager had to call him
out before his current run. And in prospect years, he is not young.

But he has been really hot, and that when this streak is over, what will it be? I am really happy his average is not .130 anymore. I want to believe Plouffe is growing into a full time regular 3B, a solution at a real position of need. So cautious optimism.

But what do I want for him? I want real development, not just a hot streak. If the guy just hits
20 solo HRs and he keeps leaving runners at 3rd base with 0 or 1 outs, his production is kind
of wash, if that. Your never as good as hotest streak, never as bad as your worst slump. So
I really don't want much different from him than what Terry Ryan wants to know -- what do the
Twins have in him?

His aggressive baserunning in the 2nd today was really nice to see. Keep it coming!

Dear Mr. 108 Double Stitches. I must apologize for my responses this evening. When I threw out my post this evening I was in a mindset of clowning around - I guess I was thrown off with your negative Plouffe responses. Because I am a Plouffetist, I took your responses too personally. For this I am ashamed. I have worked many arduous hours to find my Plouffetist center. Some might say I am one of the founders of Plouffetism, but as of now I feel like I have a lot more work to do. I hope I have not caused you to have negative energy. Let this post be the extended olive branch of truce and friendship. If you ever have a question about Plouffetism or need a compassionate Twins Daily member to vent upon. Search me out.

Bark

Originally Posted by glunn

Hey, guys, let's keep in mind that we share the sacred bond of being Twins fans.

Two things that separates us from White Sox fans are that we can debate passionately while still being respectful and we don't eat bananas with our feet.

You beat me to the punch. As you will see in my last post I am trying to make the peace.

1-2% seems about right to me.

I just can't see it happening. In any other division, I'd probably put it at zero.

But I'm not willing to concede yet because:

1) This division is full of flawed teams, I don't see anybody running away with it
2) It's not rational to think the magic run will happen, but just for sheets and giggles, it can be fun to try and dream up scenarios of ways it could happen
3) I'm kind of a stubborn bastid - there's always that part of me that will refuse to admit defeat until mathematical elimination

Originally Posted by old nurse

Perhaps the gamma rays ought to hit the scouts so they can find decent pitchers.

That might be asking too much, but we might be able to use the rays to incapacitate the scouts the next time they ask to make a trip to Japan to scout a hot prospect.

Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge

You beat me to the punch. As you will see in my last post I am trying to make the peace.

One reason that I like you so much is your development of the Plouffetist philosophy. Your modesty in the regard is admirable. Another admirable quality is your ability to admit a mistake. That was a classy apology, and I sincerely hope that Mr. Double Stitches becomes a valued friend of both of us.

Chicago is currently on pace for 84Ws (.521 38-35).
To reach 84 wins....MN needs to go 54-36 or .600 winning percentage.
The Yankees(.611) & TEX (.608) are the only 2 teams currently playing at that level.
So they will have to go from the 4th worst record in baseball to the 3rd best....starting now.
Not gonna happen
Doesnt mean we cant enjoy the remaining part of the season.

Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz

Chicago is currently on pace for 84Ws (.521 38-35).
To reach 84 wins....MN needs to go 54-36 or .600 winning percentage.
The Yankees(.611) & TEX (.608) are the only 2 teams currently playing at that level.
So they will have to go from the 4th worst record in baseball to the 3rd best....starting now.
Not gonna happen
Doesnt mean we cant enjoy the remaining part of the season.

That of course assumes Chicago continues playing at their current pace. But yeah it's not going to happen.

for the record cool standings gives the Twins a 1.3% chance

Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge

I hope I have not caused you to have negative energy. Let this post be the extended olive branch of truce and friendship. If you ever have a question about Plouffetism or need a compassionate Twins Daily member to vent upon. Search me out.

Bark

1. Happy to hear a more positive response. Thanks for clearing the air and being the bigger man. I guess you are the Torii Hunter and I am the Justin Monreau in this
clubhouse brawl (is that reference too obscure?)
2. There is plenty of blame to go to me too. My messages were sloppy and I poorly articulated my points, making them easy to misread. I found
it really difficult to respond because I felt anything I would write would just amplify things.

To be clear, I like Plouffe and his 15 HRs. But I hate it when hitters are hitting just solo HRs, and I do want to see Plouffe's next 15 HRs to have more of the 2-HR and 3-HR variety
mixed in. And the rest of what I wrote was all half-baked expression.

For the record, I hate being called a White Sox fan. But I have many friends who are White Sox fans. We just agree to hate each others teams.
But I do appreciate you clowning around. I will include an old bit of clowning around I was a part of from years ago, that
involved the White Sox, Jeff Manship and Seth Stohs. And I have proudly shared this link with many a White Sox fan.

"Faustball" question to Sethspeaks and Seth included it in his Q and A with Jeff Manship. The archive is listed here (http://sethspeaks.net/070308.htm)

The excerpt is listed below:

The Devil is tired of Faustian deals (trade in souls) and wants to try a Faust-Ball deal. And he finds you.

The devil wants this: when you retire you have to become a White Sox fan for life. In exchange, he offers, either:

(A) You can make it the majors before the end of 2008 and remain in the majors for at least the next 10 years

--OR--

(B) You can make it to the majors before the end of 2009 and the devil guarantees you make at least 3 MLB all-star teams

So my question: Is being a White Sox fan really all that bad?

- Rick

Jeff Manship: Ha ha with options like that I don’t think it would be too hard to be a White Sox fan. I would probably have to choose B, but A is a very compelling choice.

Originally Posted by glunn

One reason that I like you so much is your development of the Plouffetist philosophy. Your modesty in the regard is admirable. Another admirable quality is your ability to admit a mistake. That was a classy apology, and I sincerely hope that Mr. Double Stitches becomes a valued friend of both of us.

I hope so too Glunn. I must now go to sleep... very tired. Have an excellent rest of the evening and a great day tomorrow!

Bark

Originally Posted by snepp

This post is the worse.

On the other hand, if we keep getting dominate performances like Fragile Frankie gave us tonight, who knows? We just might make the post-season playoffs.

Originally Posted by 108 Double Stitches

1. Happy to hear a more positive response. Thanks for clearing the air and being the bigger man. I guess you are the Torii Hunter and I am the Justin Monreau in this
clubhouse brawl (is that reference too obscure?)
2. There is plenty of blame to go to me too. My messages were sloppy and I poorly articulated my points, making them easy to misread. I found
it really difficult to respond because I felt anything I would write would just amplify things.

To be clear, I like Plouffe and his 15 HRs. But I hate it when hitters are hitting just solo HRs, and I do want to see Plouffe's next 15 HRs to have more of the 2-HR and 3-HR variety
mixed in. And the rest of what I wrote was all half-baked expression.

For the record, I hate being called a White Sox fan. But I have many friends who are White Sox fans. We just agree to hate each others teams.
But I do appreciate you clowning around. I will include an old bit of clowning around I was a part of from years ago, that
involved the White Sox, Jeff Manship and Seth Stohs. And I have proudly shared this link with many a White Sox fan.

"Faustball" question to Sethspeaks and Seth included it in his Q and A with Jeff Manship. The archive is listed here (http://sethspeaks.net/070308.htm)

The excerpt is listed below:

The Devil is tired of Faustian deals (trade in souls) and wants to try a Faust-Ball deal. And he finds you.

The devil wants this: when you retire you have to become a White Sox fan for life. In exchange, he offers, either:

(A) You can make it the majors before the end of 2008 and remain in the majors for at least the next 10 years

--OR--

(B) You can make it to the majors before the end of 2009 and the devil guarantees you make at least 3 MLB all-star teams

So my question: Is being a White Sox fan really all that bad?

- Rick

Jeff Manship: Ha ha with options like that I don’t think it would be too hard to be a White Sox fan. I would probably have to choose B, but A is a very compelling choice.

Sorry to make this short... I need to hit the hay. The "Faust-Ball" story was funny. I never did consider you to be a "Sux" fan - that is the knife in my sleeve. I look forward to our next meeting when we are allies.

Bark

Originally Posted by 108 Double Stitches

1. Happy to hear a more positive response. Thanks for clearing the air and being the bigger man. I guess you are the Torii Hunter and I am the Justin Monreau in this
clubhouse brawl (is that reference too obscure?)
2. There is plenty of blame to go to me too. My messages were sloppy and I poorly articulated my points, making them easy to misread. I found
it really difficult to respond because I felt anything I would write would just amplify things.

To be clear, I like Plouffe and his 15 HRs. But I hate it when hitters are hitting just solo HRs, and I do want to see Plouffe's next 15 HRs to have more of the 2-HR and 3-HR variety
mixed in. And the rest of what I wrote was all half-baked expression.

For the record, I hate being called a White Sox fan. But I have many friends who are White Sox fans. We just agree to hate each others teams.
But I do appreciate you clowning around. I will include an old bit of clowning around I was a part of from years ago, that
involved the White Sox, Jeff Manship and Seth Stohs. And I have proudly shared this link with many a White Sox fan.

"Faustball" question to Sethspeaks and Seth included it in his Q and A with Jeff Manship. The archive is listed here (http://sethspeaks.net/070308.htm)

The excerpt is listed below:

The Devil is tired of Faustian deals (trade in souls) and wants to try a Faust-Ball deal. And he finds you.

The devil wants this: when you retire you have to become a White Sox fan for life. In exchange, he offers, either:

(A) You can make it the majors before the end of 2008 and remain in the majors for at least the next 10 years

--OR--

(B) You can make it to the majors before the end of 2009 and the devil guarantees you make at least 3 MLB all-star teams

So my question: Is being a White Sox fan really all that bad?

- Rick

Jeff Manship: Ha ha with options like that I don’t think it would be too hard to be a White Sox fan. I would probably have to choose B, but A is a very compelling choice.

Great post Mr. Stitches. I have a feeling that your brief initial feud with Mr. Lounge will prove to be the beginning of a rewarding friendship.

Please note that Mr. Lounge and I are both Plouffetists, which is a loose association based on our heartfelt prayer that Plouffe will keep getting better, and become one of the greatest Twins of all time
.

We even have a clubhouse: Plouffe temple.jpg