Thread: Doumit Extension

According to MLBtraderumors.com "Twins‬

Assistant GM Rob Antony told Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN (

via Twitter

) that he'll engage Ryan Doumit

's agent in extension talks soon."

Doesn't seem wise. Guaranteed to overpay.

List of potential free agent catchers from Baseball Prospectus. (* = team option)

Koyie Hill
Chris Iannetta *
Russell Martin
Jeff Mathis
Brian McCann *
Miguel Montero
Mike Napoli
Wil Nieves
Miguel Olivo *
Ronny Paulino
A.J. Pierzynski
Humberto Quintero
David Ross
Carlos Ruiz *
Yorvit Torrealba

The list doesn't include DH possibilities. The Twins would be wise to wait.

I agree. I would rather try to trade him for some decent prospects. Than maybe we can sign him back in the offseason.

Sign Dave Ross to be our backup catcher although I don't know why Atlanta wouldn't resign him.

Doumit currently has the fifth highest OPS on the team, and can play first base and outfield if the need arises. He has made some clutch hits and is on track for 20+ home runs. At 31 years old, he likely has some prime years left. If he could be extended for 2 more years on reasonable terms, I would think that would be a good idea for him and for the team.

He's worth the extention as he is a capable C and DH. He allows Mauer and Morneau to rotate positions. He also allows Mauer to stay behind the plate as he ages the next few years. and by that I mean Mauer can catch 100 games and DH and play some 1b another 50 games.

He is worth a 2-3 year extention in the 3.5 - 5 million per year range.

Originally Posted by notoriousgod71

Sign Dave Ross to be our backup catcher although I don't know why Atlanta wouldn't resign him.

Don't you dare take away The Boss! He'll likely resign, though. He's vested in the area enough that he took less money two years ago to stay in Atlanta.

Originally Posted by Brandon

He's worth the extention as he is a capable C and DH. He allows Mauer and Morneau to rotate positions. He also allows Mauer to stay behind the plate as he ages the next few years. and by that I mean Mauer can catch 100 games and DH and play some 1b another 50 games.

He is worth a 2-3 year extention in the 3.5 - 5 million per year range.

---I'm with you. Hopefully it will be something towards the lower end of that range as the upper end (3 yr/$15 mil) is getting a bit steep for me.

Why would Doumit sign a deal at the lower end? Players don't give up free agency midseason to sign a reasonable deal.

What would motivate Doumit to give up his free agent rights and sign midseason? He would give it up if he is confident that the deal was better than anything he might get in the winter. The only way to do that is to overpay in dollars and years. Do not sign an over 30 back up catcher with injury history to a multiyear deal.

I'm not completely seeing the wisdom here, unless it is on the lower range of the financial spectrum. Yes, Doumit has been good this year on a bad team, yes he has had clutch hits, and yes he has stayed healthy.

But for 2013 or 2014 I would expect Chris Herrmann, currently at AA and playing all right (though not tearing it up right now) to take on the back-up catcher role. Herrmann can also play left field. He's also a better catcher than Doumit, incidentally. He has to be added to the 40 man after this season. He hopefully can do 70-80 percent of Doumit's job for about 10 percent of the salary. On a team that should be moving in the direction of trading veterans for prospects and giving young guys a shot, I'm not sure that Doumit makes a whole lot of sense.

So, if the Twins do lock up Doumit for the next 2-3 seasons, I hope that the contract is such that Doumit remains a tradeable asset.

I heard the interview and the discussion that preceeded it. What I gathered was that Doumit would probably rather extend than be traded. He really enjoys being a Twin. The terms that were thrown out were 2 yrs/$10m. (I was thinking $8.5ish would be more reasonable.)

I also considered how that would affect Herrmann, but thats a 2014 problem, where Doumit could have greater trade value, if the Twins aren't competing yet.

When asked if the team would buy or sell, Antony wouldn't commit, but said whatever helps the team in 2013 and beyond.

Originally Posted by Jeremy Nygaard

I heard the interview and the discussion that preceeded it. What I gathered was that Doumit would probably rather extend than be traded. He really enjoys being a Twin. The terms that were thrown out were 2 yrs/$10m. (I was thinking $8.5ish would be more reasonable.)

I also considered how that would affect Herrmann, but thats a 2014 problem, where Doumit could have greater trade value, if the Twins aren't competing yet.

When asked if the team would buy or sell, Antony wouldn't commit, but said whatever helps the team in 2013 and beyond.

Thanks -- I didn't hear the interview and appreciate the context.

Originally Posted by Jeremy Nygaard

I heard the interview and the discussion that preceeded it. What I gathered was that Doumit would probably rather extend than be traded. He really enjoys being a Twin. The terms that were thrown out were 2 yrs/$10m. (I was thinking $8.5ish would be more reasonable.)

I also considered how that would affect Herrmann, but thats a 2014 problem, where Doumit could have greater trade value, if the Twins aren't competing yet.

When asked if the team would buy or sell, Antony wouldn't commit, but said whatever helps the team in 2013 and beyond.

Doumit's bat and flexibility are worth a resign. 2 yrs at $8-10m works for me.

If he likes playing here, would he be willing to sign for less than he could get as a free agent? If so, it's worth looking at, but let's just make sure we don't overpay. He's making $3M this year, and I would be hard-pressed to offer more than $4M, maybe $4.5M, per year for a couple of years. He is replaceable.

He has had injury issues in the past.

Im fine with resigning him as we will still try to trade Capps, Liriano, Span, Morneau among others. Gotta keep someone.
Calling him the backup catcher is just wrong as Drew Butera will be the backup to Joe as long as he feels. When he doesnt feel like it, he'll tell Gardy and we'll figure something else upl.

Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz

Calling him the backup catcher is just wrong as Drew Butera will be the backup to Joe as long as he feels.

I just threw up a little.

Correction. I just threw up a lot.

Originally Posted by sbknudson

If he likes playing here, would he be willing to sign for less than he could get as a free agent? If so, it's worth looking at, but let's just make sure we don't overpay. He's making $3M this year, and I would be hard-pressed to offer more than $4M, maybe $4.5M, per year for a couple of years. He is replaceable.

I'm not sure he's "that" replaceable. He brings a decent stick, and he can play multiple positions. How many backup catchers in the league can claim that?

Originally Posted by Fire Dan Gladden

I'm not sure he's "that" replaceable. He brings a decent stick, and he can play multiple positions. How many backup catchers in the league can claim that?

This. Catchers that can OPS at a .750 clip are quite rare. Backup catchers who can do it are Loch Ness Monster-esque.

If he's really willing to sign a 2 year, 10 million deal they should be sprinting to get that done