05-04-2012, 07:41 PM #1
Diamond pulled after three shutout innings...
The assumption is that he will be promoted to be in the Twins rotation. Have to assume that Hendriks would be optioned to Rochester.
05-04-2012, 07:47 PM #2
Oh whew.... When I say the headline I immediately thought TJ surgery needed.... it's just how things have been going.Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains.
05-04-2012, 07:50 PM #3
05-04-2012, 09:06 PM #4
Hendrix needs to regain his confidence........numbers dont show it but I think he's pitched well over Sept/April but just missing that one pitch to get him over (not counting last 2 starts....hit hard)
05-04-2012, 09:27 PM #5
Does it matter if it's Hendriks or Diamond? Both will give up 6 runs a start.
05-04-2012, 10:11 PM #6
I really want to get excited about Diamond, but it's hard to be positive about a 25-year-old rookie who can't top 7.0 K/9 in AAA and who's career minor league WHIP is 1.40.
05-05-2012, 12:01 AM #7
I think that Hendriks will eventually be in AAA where he needs to be, but I think that Swarzak has pitched better than Diamond (and Cole DeVries too) this season. And (hate to say this and I hope he proves me wrong) Diamond will not do much better in the bigs this season than he did last season.-----
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05-05-2012, 12:25 AM #8
05-05-2012, 12:38 AM #9
Interestingly, the Twins Rule 5 pick, Terry Doyle, returned to his old team, has incredibly similar numbers to Scott Diamond at AAA. Diamond does have a better ERA (1.3 Difference) while Doyle has better K/9 (2.4 diff). For walks,they're both under 2/9.
My point here is that, had they felt Doyle was worth the pick I would have preferred they give him a longer look. He could have been kept in the pen for a bit and could have added some possible depth, even if he is the same pitcher as Diamond.
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05-05-2012, 01:28 AM #10
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05-05-2012, 01:27 PM #13
I suppose its worth a shot. Diamond cant pitch much worse than Hendricks, can he?
05-05-2012, 01:49 PM #14
Should Diamond get a shot. Those Numbers kind of answer the question.
Pavano, Baker, Liriano, Blackburn and Marquis are 28.75 Million dollars worth of rotation.
Swarzak, Hendriks, Diamond, AAA guy and AAA guy will lose just as many games for the Value of 2.5 Million.
05-05-2012, 01:56 PM #15
B. Add P.J. Walters and Cole DeVries as those last two guys.
C. This is what drives me crazy over the years with the team. It isn't the total amount of money spent. It's the garbage money spent here and there that adds up to tens of millions of dollars for REPLACEMENT (or worse) level play.
05-05-2012, 02:21 PM #16
05-05-2012, 02:37 PM #17
Can you say that we are getting 62.75 Million worth of production out of 6 of our top 7 salaries.
Let's add Jamey Carroll 38 years old and $2.75M
Now you are looking at 65.5 million for 7 players. Tampa Bay's Payroll is 65 Million. (I know this is a bad example. Tampa Bay has been a model Farm system and is producing young talent and more young talent to keep them World Series threats so thats a tough grading curve.)
The Twins owners have shown that they will spend a little so I don't believe that is the issue. It's the nature of what we are spending it on. The Nature of the Business has been a F5 Tornado. It's leveling the town. When do we call FEMA.
05-05-2012, 03:15 PM #18
The biggest problem in baseball is that the biggest money typically gets spent after a big contract player has played his best baseball, it's like they've earned the right to be overpaid. So if you're saying the Twins should recognize this and not fall into that type of mentality then you're right. It would make them even less popular with most of their fans then they already are however.
05-05-2012, 03:16 PM #19
You forgot one thing
Sure Diamond is the best pitcher the Twins have and he is not even on the roster
BUT what you forgot to mention is Anderson can take a pitcher with a good delivery and setup and DESTROY him
The Twins should first FIRE the pitching coach Anderson before bringing up any more prospects for him to ruin in the Majors!!
05-05-2012, 03:26 PM #20
By garbage money I didn't mean the big salaries (both deserved at the time). I would include Pavano's. Blackburn's of course, as well, and obviously Matt Capps. Liriano and Baker are moderately cheap for what they could have produced this year. In years past, Nick Punto, Mike Lamb, Ramon Ortiz, Rondell White, Livan Hernandez, Adam Everett, Craig Monroe, Luis Ayala, Tony Batista, etc. Any given year there is $15 million or more just tossed at players who are grossly overpaid for their value when league minimum players and one $10-12 million player would be vastly better.