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#1 Jeremy Nygaard

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:26 AM

It appears the Twins have spent more money on the the International market, coming to terms with 1B/OF Jack Barrie. Perfect Game talks about his big right-handed power. The 18 yr old also has a real good arm. Both articles mention six-figure deals. He'll likely play in the GCL, but I'd like to see his power in E-town.

http://m.smh.com.au/...0224-33b6p.html

http://m.sunshinecoa...lugger/2180313/

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:46 AM

Using a metric coverter looks like he's 6'3" 250 lbs. That's a pretty hefty 18 year old. Looks like a right handed Jim Thome type.

Also, I never knew Australians spelled practice wrong!

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:52 AM

He's an enormous human. I like Perfect Game had him listed at 6'4, 253. There is a picture I saw where he looked like a bigger, wider version of Josh Willingham.

Got a quote from Lewis Thorpe, who saw him a couple of years ago. He said he was a pretty good hitter with power. He was big at 16 when he saw him. He's come a ways since then, but Thorpe says of the adjustment to the States, coming here is going to be "very different".

At the least, it's nice to see the Twins add another power bat.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:52 AM

This puts the Twins up against their international ceiling budget, correct? They can't have much left at this point.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:57 AM

This puts the Twins up against their international ceiling budget, correct? They can't have much left at this point.


If you add six figures to the previous report, it would put them over the cap. I got a message out to Ben Badler to see if he can confirm.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:15 AM

I read $200,000 last night somewhere. Not a bad amount.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:33 AM

Got a quote from Lewis Thorpe, who saw him a couple of years ago. He said he was a pretty good hitter with power. He was big at 16 when he saw him. He's come a ways since then, but Thorpe says of the adjustment to the States, coming here is going to be "very different".


Well "very different" certainly didn't mean "very difficult" so far for Thorpe. If only all prospects could adjust in the manor Thorpe has, on the field that is.

It also occurs to me that the Twins used their International cash on two guys who may be mirror images of each other, with Lewin Diaz being the other. Add DJ Hicks and Kennys Vargas and you'd hope one of them ends up being a big bat 1B/DH type.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:51 AM

Doogie tweeted earlier that the Twins still have IFA room to spend. I'm not doubting Doogie's sources. It could be possible that this was done earlier and just broke yesterday.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:56 AM

I just looked up the previously reported figures. The Twins had $3.9m to spend. They had spent $3.5m previously. If $200K is close, this would still put them around $3.7m, which does, in fact, give them plenty of room to still spend.

I was thinking they were closer than that.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 10:09 AM

Either way, let's have this fact put to bed the false claims that the Twins aren't spending their allottment once again.


This guy looks interesting and impressive. But it's easy to keep it in perspective by recalling that we had Aussie Rory Rhodes at one time, who was once described as having light tower power. But I love these kinds of signings because they conjure up a certain romanticism that makes you want to root for these guys.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 10:10 AM

Here is his Perfect Game profile with video. I saw him in December, he is 1 large kid. He was a man among boys at this show case. His hitting video shows his potential.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 10:13 AM

Odds they first see how much potential he has as a pitcher? I think they might. Regardless, I like the signing. An 18 year old that big surely could have some major upside.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 10:50 AM

Either way, let's have this fact put to bed the false claims that the Twins aren't spending their allottment once again.


It's a yearly ritual. In July, people holler that the Twins aren't spending international money.

By February, they've come close to spending their allotment.

Next July, rinse and repeat.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:41 AM

It's a yearly ritual. In July, people holler that the Twins aren't spending international money.

By February, they've come close to spending their allotment.

Next July, rinse and repeat.


I'm glad to have this guy, but I think the disappointment stemmed more from the Twins not going after the top tier Latin players. They generally go very early in the process and the Twins haven't been as active on that front.

I'm not judging the Twins method here, just trying to point out what I believe is the real complaint. I'd guess had the Twins signed Eloy Jimenez or Mickar Zapata there would probably have been less dissent about the spending habits even if there was money left over.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:58 AM

I'm glad to have this guy, but I think the disappointment stemmed more from the Twins not going after the top tier Latin players. They generally go very early in the process and the Twins haven't been as active on that front.

I'm not judging the Twins method here, just trying to point out what I believe is the real complaint. I'd guess had the Twins signed Eloy Jimenez or Mickar Zapata there would probably have been less dissent about the spending habits even if there was money left over.


Not saying this is your argument but it's hard to play any form of moneyball if you're elbowing for space at the best table in the room all the time.

Sometimes going for the Latin player makes sense and I hope to see the Twins occasionally spring for a Sano type out of Latin America... But complaining that they don't do it every year is short-sighted. Projecting 16 year old kids is "rarely hit, mostly miss" situation and will lead to a lot of money spent with not a lot of return.

The smart money is in widening the net and snagging the Lewis Thorpes of the world on a regular basis, which appears to be the Twins' strategy over the past few years. Hopefully it pans out for them and so far, it's looking like a decent bet on Thorpe alone.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:00 PM

Here is his Perfect Game profile with video. I saw him in December, he is 1 large kid. He was a man among boys at this show case. His hitting video shows his potential.

http://www.perfectga...ID=388551#boxd0


Simple, compact, short swing, with great bat speed, and power. That's a swing the can translate well over higher levels. What if anything did they say about his pitch recognition. I suppose we won't have a better idea until he moves on to higher levels. You take that kids frame, bat speed, short powerful simple compact swing, and any type of plate recognition you might just have something. Prediction: he is going to move up the prospect ranking very very fast. I like this signing. Do we know which scout scouted him?

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:22 PM

That's 4 big contract corner infielders this signing period. I find that interesting. The Twins have been drafting a lot of pitchers The last two drafts and power is expensive to sign so it's not a bad plan, just hope they can find at bats for all these kids. Barrie has a power swing and power build for sure. I'll be rooting for him!

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:01 PM

Simple, compact, short swing, with great bat speed, and power. That's a swing the can translate well over higher levels. What if anything did they say about his pitch recognition. I suppose we won't have a better idea until he moves on to higher levels. You take that kids frame, bat speed, short powerful simple compact swing, and any type of plate recognition you might just have something. Prediction: he is going to move up the prospect ranking very very fast. I like this signing. Do we know which scout scouted him?


I would assume Howard Norsetter. He's very active in Australia.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:57 PM

I'm glad to have this guy, but I think the disappointment stemmed more from the Twins not going after the top tier Latin players. They generally go very early in the process and the Twins haven't been as active on that front.

I'm not judging the Twins method here, just trying to point out what I believe is the real complaint. I'd guess had the Twins signed Eloy Jimenez or Mickar Zapata there would probably have been less dissent about the spending habits even if there was money left over.


So the Twins should care if there is less dissent because they got who the public wanted? the Twins top prospect list is full of guys that were signed for less 1M. Sometimes there is a top guy but most of these guys are so speculative that it's typically better to get quantity rather than a couple of top tier guys.

I think the twins have done quite well adding a lot of young talent to the system instead of betting on a couple top tier guys.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:13 PM

I'm glad to have this guy, but I think the disappointment stemmed more from the Twins not going after the top tier Latin players. They generally go very early in the process and the Twins haven't been as active on that front.

I'm not judging the Twins method here, just trying to point out what I believe is the real complaint. I'd guess had the Twins signed Eloy Jimenez or Mickar Zapata there would probably have been less dissent about the spending habits even if there was money left over.


nick, even this is a bit of an unfair characterization. Lewin Diaz was the 10th-ranked guy. I think the year before, they signed Minier (#7?) and Silva (#22?). Asking for more than that is just not fair. Their spending history in the international market has been excellent dating back several years, and our prospect pipeline provides plenty of evidence that it was intelligent spending to boot.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:30 PM

Got some confirmation from Aussie sources who know both players: He looks like a Righty Mike Gonzales with equal "ability" on the field, but has more power than Gonzales. Time will tell. Nothing bad about getting another HR hitter on the team
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:02 PM

Just because I didn't see anybody else post it yet. Mike Berardino wrote a brief article on the signing.
http://blogs.twincit...er-jack-barrie/

A few highlights:
- Had a great showcase at the Under-18 national championships in January that put him on the map.
- At least 3 other teams wanted to sign him.
- Got closer to 250,000
- He's going to be a 1st Baseman.
- Expected to Start in the GCL this year.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:07 PM

nick, even this is a bit of an unfair characterization. Lewin Diaz was the 10th-ranked guy. I think the year before, they signed Minier (#7?) and Silva (#22?). Asking for more than that is just not fair. Their spending history in the international market has been excellent dating back several years, and our prospect pipeline provides plenty of evidence that it was intelligent spending to boot.


I think MLB.com had Minier at #2 even.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:53 PM

So the Twins should care if there is less dissent because they got who the public wanted? the Twins top prospect list is full of guys that were signed for less 1M. Sometimes there is a top guy but most of these guys are so speculative that it's typically better to get quantity rather than a couple of top tier guys.

I think the twins have done quite well adding a lot of young talent to the system instead of betting on a couple top tier guys.


nick, even this is a bit of an unfair characterization. Lewin Diaz was the 10th-ranked guy. I think the year before, they signed Minier (#7?) and Silva (#22?). Asking for more than that is just not fair. Their spending history in the international market has been excellent dating back several years, and our prospect pipeline provides plenty of evidence that it was intelligent spending to boot.


Keep piling on guys. Nice. I clearly stated that I wasn't judging the method. I was just clarifying what I believed to be the root of the dissent among some fans, that being many fans would prefer the Twins go stronger after the Latin players, who generally go early.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:13 PM

As I understand it the dissent is that the Twins didn't sign the top Baseball America int'l free agents THIS year. I'm not at all concerned if the Twins don't satisfy these types of dissenters. And the Twins shouldn't be concerned at all about these types of dissenters.

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 02:51 PM

Here is an article that my co worker wrote from the December Showcase.

http://www.perfectga...px?article=9257
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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:10 AM

BA had a write up on him today complete with some nice video of him crushing the ball in Ft Myers.

http://www.baseballa...an-jack-barrie/

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:53 AM

Simple, compact, short swing, with great bat speed, and power. That's a swing the can translate well over higher levels. What if anything did they say about his pitch recognition. I suppose we won't have a better idea until he moves on to higher levels. You take that kids frame, bat speed, short powerful simple compact swing, and any type of plate recognition you might just have something. Prediction: he is going to move up the prospect ranking very very fast. I like this signing. Do we know which scout scouted him?


That is a pretty nice looking swing.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:39 PM

BA had a write up on him today complete with some nice video of him crushing the ball in Ft Myers.

http://www.baseballa...an-jack-barrie/


Also of him pitching. :) It reminds me not to apply for a job as a scout, I can't tell the difference between prospect and non-.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:55 PM

Does his swing look a little like Tori Hunter?