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#1 Cody Christie

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:58 PM

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#2 Otwins

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:29 PM

I would love to see it but think it is unlikely. He probably wants to pitch for a contender although there is not one where he would be assured of a roster spot. The only way I see it is if he thinks that that the Twins will leave him in the rotation even after a couple rough starts (like pelfrey)and not have to be ready by opening day(like harden). The Twins do know how to use him and took much better care of Santana than the Mets.

#3 iastfan112

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:15 AM

I'd be fine with him returning but I'm pretty skeptical he'll successfully come back, the track record for this surgery is short and bad and he's had to have it done twice.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:09 AM

No pitcher has ever recovered from two of these on the same shoulder.

#5 Blackjack

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:14 AM

No. I loved listening to the Twins when Johan pitched, I don't want to listen as a shell of the old Johan struggles, I want to remember him as he was.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:33 AM

I dunno, I would think it might be more likely than some other options. I don't think he burned any bridges with the FO when he left, though he certainly limited their options in terms of who he'd accept a trade to. But that's just business. He had leverage and used it.

Last I knew, he still had his home in Fort Myers, making the Twins, Red Sox and maybe the Rays as teams he might lean toward going to spring training with. Of those teams, the Twins would seem to have more room for a reclamation project in their 2014 rotation. It would need to be on an incentive-heavy contract, perhaps with an agreement to allow Santana to walk away if he's not on the active roster by June.

If he did make the roster, his name would generate some buzz and sell a few tickets/jerseys.

Certainly wouldn't be the worst move either side could make this winter.

#7 SpitefulRabbit617

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:46 AM

Bring him Back. Based on the majority of seasons since he left, its not like we can do any worse.

#8 Nick Nelson

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:12 AM

No reason not to give it a shot, really. But sadly I think Santana is toast.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:20 AM

No reason not to give it a shot, really. But sadly I think Santana is toast.


I think you are probably right that you can stick a fork in him--Johan is done--I figure a 90% chance of that. But resign him on the 10% chance he isn't done.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:23 AM

The Twins can afford to give him a decent contract for little results. Putting him on the field for just a game or two will sell tickets (which is important to the team). You will sell Jerseys. Maybe he will shine. He can't be any worse than any number of other folks out there. I don't really see anyone else risking a 40-man sot on him or a guaranteed rotation spot. The Twins have that luxury. A Santana signing in January would generate quite a few season ticket sales. Even if he doesn't ever pitch for the team during the season, the p.r. value might be worth it alone. Heck, Blackburn got paid $5 million to throw a dozen minor league innings this year!

#11 ashburyjohn

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:25 AM

Old saying applies here: It is not possible to step in the same river twice. I am beyond apathetic about the idea. He's no longer Johan Santana and these are not the same Twins and I don't see the point.

#12 cmathewson

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:31 AM

Harden and Perez are cautionary, and they had the surgery once. Twice is twice too many. The surgery is for helping you comb your hair without pain. It's not for getting you back on the mound. If you know he's toast, why do anything to bring him back, unless it's just so he can retire a Twin.

#13 SpitefulRabbit617

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:37 AM

Tony O and Johan team up for spanish language twins broadcast! BOOM!

#14 Jdosen

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:00 PM

The child in me that remembers Johan as the best pitcher on the planet for 4 years wants this to happen in the worst way. I wouldn't miss a Santana start. But, those days are gone.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:31 PM

1 year, 1 mil contract with 5 mil in incentives.

#16 JeffB

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:48 PM

We all know that if the Twins bring him back, he'll fizzle and we'll be disappointed. If he signs elsewhere, he'll do great and we'll be disappointed. Sigh. :banghead:

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:49 PM

My heart says, "yes!" I don't put anything beyond Johan. I'd enjoy a Santana comeback attempt more than the Pelfrey/Harden/Zumaya attempts.
...or, a Scott Baker reunion could make even more sense.
Heck, get the band back together!

#18 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:43 PM

1 year, 1 mil contract with 5 mil in incentives.


I don't think you throw your money away by giving him any guaranteed money. It's a long shot that he'll ever pitch in the big leagues again. If you really wan't to take a chance, do a minor league deal with an opt out date, a la Harden.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:57 PM

My heart says, "yes!" I don't put anything beyond Johan. I'd enjoy a Santana comeback attempt more than the Pelfrey/Harden/Zumaya attempts.
...or, a Scott Baker reunion could make even more sense.
Heck, get the band back together!


Baker is a decent possibility. I would be on board if they sign at least one established guy.

#20 LaBombo

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:04 PM

Even if the odds are closer to one in a hundred than one in ten, can a team with the worst rotation in baseball really afford to rule much of anything out? At this point they're just looking for guys who can get the ball from the mound to home plate.

#21 Rick Blaine

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:10 PM

If he could pitch like he did in 2012 he'd be our best starter.

#22 darin617

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:56 PM

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#23 Tpups21

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:05 PM

Would definitely be interested in a Johan reunion on an incentive-laden deal.

#24 rickyriolo

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:12 PM

Can we just sign a free agent pitcher who hasn't blown out his shoulder?? stop with the dumpster diving please

#25 cmathewson

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:01 PM

1 year, 1 mil contract with 5 mil in incentives.


$1 million wasted.
"If you'da been thinkin' you wouldn't 'a thought that.."

#26 Rick Blaine

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:43 PM

$1 million wasted.


What's a million bucks amongst friends:)

#27 snepp

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:13 PM

$1 million wasted.


Seriously impacting their ability to acquire the next Tim Wood.




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#28 SpiritofVodkaDave

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:04 AM

Seriously impacting their ability to acquire the next Tim Wood.



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It's a lottery ticket. I don't see the harm in offering him a 1 mil deal with incentives if there is even a 50% chance he will be able to pitch.

#29 LaBombo

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:24 AM

What's a million bucks amongst friends:)

4.5 million less than what they wasted on the second year of Correia's contract?

#30 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:49 PM

It's a lottery ticket. I don't see the harm in offering him a 1 mil deal with incentives if there is even a 50% chance he will be able to pitch.

That lottery ticket has even more value if you don't have to pay a million bucks for it.
I doubt any team in baseball is going to give him a guaranteed contract next year. A Harden type deal (minor league contract w/ an opt out date) seems more likely to me.