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#1 jdotmcmahon

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 10:36 AM

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#2 orangevening

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 11:30 AM

I don't see a problem, it can even a benefit, if a pitcher like Albers is followed by or proceeds a *better stuff* type pitcher (esp. Right handed). At least the first time go though I think it may be a adjustment for the batters. One Albers/Diamond type pitcher is ok. Problem is when you have 2/3/4/5 of them.

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 12:36 PM

This speaks to the rarity of quality starting pitching more than anything else. The Twins don't get better by releasing Albers. They get better by acquiring viable alternatives, which is really, really hard to do.

Edited by PseudoSABR, 18 August 2013 - 12:49 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2013 - 12:47 PM

I think Albers is very different than Scort Diamond. He is not the rely on ground balls pitch to contact type. He is a fly ball pitcher. He comes to the majors with reverse platoon splits. At best, he profiles like Bruce Chen who has had a long career. Barry Zito is more similar to Albers than Diamond. There aren't many guys like this who have been successful, but it is worth giving him this opportunity.

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 01:10 PM

Albers had a great first two starts. And, even though he gave up five last night, he showed something. Dude is tough, very competitive. Does he have great stuff and velocity? No. Does he know who he is? Absolutely. And last night after the game, Gardy made the comment that Albers had Dunn 0-2 with two outs in the one inning and didn't get him and four runs scored. Just have to make one more pitch. He still went 7. He still worked fast. Albers said after the game that he just struggled to get into a rhythm, that it took awhile. That happens.

Talked to Gibson, and he was talking about how he needed to do some of the things that Albers has done. If Gibson does it, he can be terrific because he has stuff... but sometimes, there are exceptions. Most likely, Albers won't pitch after this year. Just enjoy the story and hope...

#6 diehardtwinsfan

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 02:34 PM

Albers is the kind of guy you want in AAA to come up and make occasional spot starts but return to AAA when done. You don't want to rely on a guy like him. Unfortunately, we have too many guys like him, and not enough quality pitchers.

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 08:56 PM

Yeah, we get it. The Twins kinda suck this year and have the past couple years. They might lose 90 games again. They need better starting pitching. It sounds like a broken record. No one in their right mind would actually claim that Albers is an ace. How about we enjoy some of the positive things that Twins players do this year?

#8 twinsnorth49

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 08:28 AM

Yeah, we get it. The Twins kinda suck this year and have the past couple years. They might lose 90 games again. They need better starting pitching. It sounds like a broken record. No one in their right mind would actually claim that Albers is an ace. How about we enjoy some of the positive things that Twins players do this year?



See Brian Dozier thread.

#9 PopRiveter

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 08:55 AM

Can you honestly find one example of "fans and media alike" hailing him as an ace? I read and listen to a lot of Twins content. Sure seems from here that everyone has enjoyed the pleasant surprise, but none are fooled into thinking that an 86 MPH fastball puts a pitcher in "Ace" conversations.
Alex Meyer and Kohl Stewart have been targeted for high upside. To a lesser extent, JO Berrios, Trevor May, Mason Melotakis. Albers doesn't make the list of pitchers who the Twins hope will rise to ace status. I don't think the Twins will stop looking because of Albers' 2 good starts.
In a season like this, a good storyline is a bright spot. Finding a potential building block (even if it is a low-ceiling guy) is good thing where there haven't been enough good things.
Your article may be overreacting to a nonexistent opinion.