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#1 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:19 AM

Hey, I'm trying to figure out how the mobile skin handles resolution. If you use TD on an Android tablet or phone, which skin is/was the default for you? The mobile skin (light blue, very simple) or the full skin (red and blue, much more complex)?

If you could tell me the skin that you see by default (not the one you switched to by choice) and what device you're using, that'd be keen. Thanks.

#2 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:58 AM

With my Android phone, the default for me is the full skin.

#3 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:39 AM

With my Android phone, the default for me is the full skin.


What phone do you use?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:43 AM

what phone do you use?


htc evo 4g

#5 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:55 AM

Ugh. I am so bent at Android/Google right now. Apple's method of telling the browser its display specs is so freakin' superior to Android.

I'm coming to the conclusion that there is no way to differentiate an Android phone from a tablet. What a cluster****. Fail, Google. Big, fat, FAIL.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:08 PM

Ugh. I am so bent at Android/Google right now. Apple's method of telling the browser its display specs is so freakin' superior to Android.

I'm coming to the conclusion that there is no way to differentiate an Android phone from a tablet. What a cluster****. Fail, Google. Big, fat, FAIL.


If it makes you feel any better I'm switching to Apple when my contract is up in June.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:15 PM

Galaxy S III- full skin.

#8 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:21 PM

Galaxy S III- full skin.


That's what I've gathered by asking around for screenshots of the site.

This is going to require a massive re-thinking of how this site is coded.

Um, yay?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:41 PM

I have both the Samsung galaxy s3 and the tab and both come up with the mobile skin.

#10 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:01 PM

Which Tab do you have?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:13 PM

I Phone 4. I have the full skin

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:53 AM

HTC Rezound, bule skin, love it.

BTW, on my iPad, when I first go to the site through Chrome, I get some kind of error "something is not right here, admin requests higher level of something....", then I hit back, then reopen and it opens.....
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:24 AM

HTC Rezound, bule skin, love it.

BTW, on my iPad, when I first go to the site through Chrome, I get some kind of error "something is not right here, admin requests higher level of something....", then I hit back, then reopen and it opens.....


Huh. I'll check it out. Thanks.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:35 AM

I've got a Motorola Razr Maxx HD. Looks like it's the full skin? (red/blue).


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:01 AM

well, I do have the red icons like that, so maybe full then....
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#16 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:03 AM

Powrwrap, that is the mobile skin.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:11 AM

Which Tab do you have?


Galaxy Tab 2 (7").

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:32 AM

Brock-

I'm on a Droid Razr at the moment and it's coming up with the mobile skin when using both the chrome browser and the stock android browser. My galaxy nexus just melted a few weeks ago and it loaded up on the mobile browser as well.

Both these phones were running android 4.1.2 (Jellybean) if that makes any difference. I doubt it, but maybe.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:35 AM

galaxy s3 and it went to the mobile AP.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:42 AM

Brock-

I'm on a Droid Razr at the moment and it's coming up with the mobile skin when using both the chrome browser and the stock android browser. My galaxy nexus just melted a few weeks ago and it loaded up on the mobile browser as well.

Both these phones were running android 4.1.2 (Jellybean) if that makes any difference. I doubt it, but maybe.


Thanks. I'm going to have to buy an Android tablet just for code-checking... I'll probably wait for the new Nexus 7 tablet, which will probably be announced at Google I/O in mid-May.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

Ugh. I am so bent at Android/Google right now. Apple's method of telling the browser its display specs is so freakin' superior to Android.

I'm coming to the conclusion that there is no way to differentiate an Android phone from a tablet. What a cluster****. Fail, Google. Big, fat, FAIL.


Just download Dolphin Browser. You can set your User Agent to whatever you'd like for webpage rendering. You can even customize individual pages to individual User Agents. The advantage you'll always have using Android is being able to customize the user experience to something that you want. Sometimes it just takes a little work which can be cumbersome to some.

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#22 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:04 AM

Wrong.

Just download Dolphin Browser. You can set your User Agent to whatever you'd like for webpage rendering. You can even customize individual pages to individual User Agents. The advantage you'll always have using Android is being able to customize the user experience to something that you want. Sometimes it just takes a little work which can be cumbersome to some.

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You realize that I'm saying this as a developer and not an end-user, right? I know plenty of ways to circumvent this problem on a single device but as a developer, I need to find solutions that work under as many environments as possible.

Asking users to download a third party browser has no bearing on this problem, really. The vast majority of users will use whatever browser comes with the phone by default (one of my biggest annoyances with Android... First, they didn't release Chrome for the OS for years and then when they did, some developers ignored it and continued to use their own in-house browser).

Android is super-customizable but it's also a friggin' mess from a development standpoint. Most users still don't even run a version of the OS that supports Chrome, despite the fact that Android started bundling Chrome with Ice Cream Sandwich, which released in October of 2011.

I love some of the stuff Google is doing with Android but as a developer, I'll take Apple's system 105% of the time over Android. It's becoming a complete nightmare to sort device/display issues when tablets are running 1280 resolutions and phones are running 1920 resolutions and some of the manufacturers are doing a lousy job of staying standards-compliant. Allowing manufacturers to make your operating system a free-for-all is good for innovation but it also allows some really bad decisions to be made in place of logical, standards-compliant decisions.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:06 AM

You realize that I'm saying this as a developer and not an end-user, right? I know plenty of ways to circumvent this problem but as a developer, I need to find solutions that work under as many environments as possible.

Asking users to download a third party browser has no bearing on this problem, really.



My bad, I did not know that.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:23 AM

Ubuntu will fix all that for you Brock, just wait......:th_alc:
Lighten up Francis....

#25 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:26 AM

Ubuntu will fix all that for you Brock, just wait......:th_alc:


Don't even get me started on Linux. Fantastic server OS but I have absolutely zero use for it past that point (excepting the *nix-based OSes OSX, iOS, Android).

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:31 PM

You realize that I'm saying this as a developer and not an end-user, right? I know plenty of ways to circumvent this problem on a single device but as a developer, I need to find solutions that work under as many environments as possible.

Asking users to download a third party browser has no bearing on this problem, really. The vast majority of users will use whatever browser comes with the phone by default (one of my biggest annoyances with Android... First, they didn't release Chrome for the OS for years and then when they did, some developers ignored it and continued to use their own in-house browser).

Android is super-customizable but it's also a friggin' mess from a development standpoint. Most users still don't even run a version of the OS that supports Chrome, despite the fact that Android started bundling Chrome with Ice Cream Sandwich, which released in October of 2011.

I love some of the stuff Google is doing with Android but as a developer, I'll take Apple's system 105% of the time over Android. It's becoming a complete nightmare to sort device/display issues when tablets are running 1280 resolutions and phones are running 1920 resolutions and some of the manufacturers are doing a lousy job of staying standards-compliant. Allowing manufacturers to make your operating system a free-for-all is good for innovation but it also allows some really bad decisions to be made in place of logical, standards-compliant decisions.


I appreciate the insight. And to help your project, here's what my phone (Nexus 4) looks like on default using Chrome:

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:38 PM

Excellent, thanks. That's the mobile browser. This issue seems to be rare enough that I don't think I'll need to take action on it for awhile.... At least until 1080p Android phones become more commonplace.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:47 PM

Excellent, thanks. That's the mobile browser. This issue seems to be rare enough that I don't think I'll need to take action on it for awhile.... At least until 1080p Android phones become more commonplace.


As a developer, what's your opinion on Blackberry 10 and Windows Phone 8?

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:04 PM

As a developer, what's your opinion on Blackberry 10 and Windows Phone 8?


I haven't toyed with either long enough to form a salient opinion.

I really love the UI on Windows 8 phones, though. For my money, Microsoft has the best UIX in the business (as odd as that is to say). i heart Metro.

BlackBerry is dying. They've bungled every opportunity they've had and should have dropped their OS entirely and moved to Android (or, better yet, they should have actively pursued an acquisition by Microsoft to hold on to their enterprise market). At least at that point, they'd regain developer support but with their ever-dwindling marketshare (now somewhere south of 5%), no developer has a real reason to dedicate valuable resources to the (all new again) platform.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:26 PM

I just tried TD on my old HTC G2. It pulled up the mobile skin as well. This one running the stock browser on Android 2.3.4 (ginger bread).
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