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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:57 AM

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#2 Brandon

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:56 AM

Santana at the top followed by Blyleven, Viola, then Jack Morris (even though he pitched one season his last game puts him on the list alone). so far those guys were aces, Nathan was the ace closer then you move on to the number 2 types in your rotation starting with Kaat who is a borderline ace maybe even an ace i don't know for sure, then Radke, Perry and Tapani, then Aguilera.

I have to admit I am not as familiar with the 60's pitchers as much as the 80's and beyond.

#3 Darin Bratsch

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:13 AM

1. Johan Santana
2. Bert Blyleven
3. Frank Viola
4. Camilio Pascual
5. Jim Kaat
6. Mudcat Grant
7. Joe Nathan
8. Jim Perry
9. Rick Aguilera
10. Jack Morris

sorry, Bob Tewksbury & Bobby Castillo

#4 Seth Stohs

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:24 AM

Sorry, I just can't include a guy who was the 3rd best pitcher on that 1991 team. Yup, he had the great Game 7... no question about that.

#5 Seth Stohs

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:35 AM

Alright, here's mine...

1.) Johan Santana, 2.) Jim Kaat, 3.) Bert Blyleven, 4.) Joe Nathan, 5.) Jim Perry, 6.) Brad Radke, 7.) Frank Viola, 8.) Camilo Pascual, 9.) Dave Goltz, 10.) Rick Aguilera.

#6 Curt

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:36 AM

1. Santana - duh
2. Viola - ah, Sweet Music...
3. Blyleven - every start was a possible no-hitter
4. Radke - tough era, bad team, great pitcher
5. Reardon - the anti-RD
6. Kaat - when the pitcher really was the best athlete on the team
7. Nathan - automatic
8. Perry - no Gaylord but still...
9. Aguilera - boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back. Classic.
10. Morris - YEAH, IT WAS THAT IMPORTANT.

#7 Winston Smith

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:17 AM

Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.

Edited by Winston Smith, 08 November 2012 - 10:23 AM.

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#8 Curt

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:28 AM

Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.

I see what you did there. Step to the front of the line, please.

#9 DAM DC Twins Fans

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:09 AM

Top 3: Kaat, Bert andRadke

Next 3: Johan, Sweet Music and Mudcat,

The rest: Pscual, Goltz Tapani and Perry

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:00 PM

1. Johan Santana 2. Jim Kaat 3. Bert Blyleven 4. Brad Radke 5. Joe Nathan 6. Jim Perry 7. Frank Viola 8. Rick Aguilera 9. Camilo Pascual 10. Dave Goltz

#11 Fatt Crapps

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

Top 3: Kaat, Bert andRadke

Next 3: Johan, Sweet Music and Mudcat,

The rest: Pscual, Goltz Tapani and Perry


Radke was better than Johan and Viola? Ok man..

#12 nokomismod

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:24 PM

1. Johan 2. Jim Kaat 3. Viola 4. Bad Brad.

Maybe because Bad Brad was here through thick and thin, and was the guy willing to stick with a really bad team when he could have left.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:59 PM

1. Bert Blyleven
2. Jim Kaat
3. Jim Perry
4. Frank Viola
5. Johan Santana

This is a list I put together last year at http://twinstrivia.c...-starting-five/

#14 jwestbrock

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:53 PM

Santana
Blyleven
Kaat
Nathan
Radke
Aguilera
Perry
Viola
Pascual
Goltz

#15 Thrylos

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:11 PM

This can be tricky...
Twins' top pitchers of all time (career numbers not only Twins' numbers; which will automatically have to include names like Steve Carlton)
Twins' top pitchers of all time (Twins' only numbers)
Twins' franchise top pitchers of all time (including the Senator years)
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#16 zchrz

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:18 PM

If based purely on performance that 1/2 a year of pre TJ Liriano is at least top 3 if not the best. Obviously that story went horribly wrong but damn was he nasty when he first came up.

#17 h2oface

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:38 PM

1. Johan Santana
2. Jim Kaat (tie)
2. Bert Blyleven (tie)
4. Frank Viola
5. Joe Nathan

6. Camilo Pascual
7. Jim Perry
8. Brad Radke
9. Jim "Mudcat" Grant
10. Jack Morris - for the greatest twins' pitching performance... game 7 was the game.

i gotta stick with just the minnesota twins as the minnesota twins, and what they did as a member of the twins. no penalty for number of years on the twins.

#18 Steve J

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 03:02 AM

Top 3: Kaat, Bert andRadke

Next 3: Johan, Sweet Music and Mudcat,

The rest: Pscual, Goltz Tapani and Perry


Is that you Dick Bremer?

#19 Steve J

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 03:04 AM

[quote name='Curt'][quote name='Winston Smith']Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.[/QUOTE]
I see what you did there. Step to the front of the line, please.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I don't buy into the malarky of disowning history just because it wasn't local as seems to be the rage of conventional wisdom. The Twins/Senators are a historic franchise, not some lousy invention of the 60s

#20 mnfanforlife

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:31 AM

[quote name='Steve J'][quote name='Curt'][quote name='Winston Smith']Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.[/QUOTE]
I see what you did there. Step to the front of the line, please.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I don't buy into the malarky of disowning history just because it wasn't local as seems to be the rage of conventional wisdom. The Twins/Senators are a historic franchise, not some lousy invention of the 60s[/QUOTE]


Right, they are the same franchise. But the list specifically says "Twins Top Pitchers of All-Time." I love baseball history though, so it was refreshing to see the "Big Train's" stat line for '13, even though it wasn't pitched in a Twins' uniform. Imagine if some wacko put up numbers like that in 2013...he would be MVP/Cy Young and people would swear he's on PED's

Edited by mnfanforlife, 09 November 2012 - 03:30 PM.


#21 mnfanforlife

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:36 AM

Santana was widely known as the best pitcher "in the game" during his successful years in Minnesota. None of these other guys were ever considered the Ace of Aces in the major leagues. There is no way a list of Twins' all-time-greatest-pitchers doesn't start with Santana rated #1 overall.

Edited by mnfanforlife, 09 November 2012 - 08:38 AM.


#22 ping3woodguy

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 02:53 PM

1.) Johan Santana, 2.) Camilo Pascual, 3.) Bert Blyleven, 4.) Here kitty kitty, Jim Kaat, 5.) Joe Nathan, 6.) Jim Perry, 7.) Frank Viola, 8.) Jack Morris, 9.) Brad Radke, 10.) Jack Morris 11.) The all to short runs of dominance of Scott Erickson (first half of 1991, Francisco Liriano 3 months of 2006.

#23 Jim H

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:45 AM

1) Kaat, 2) Santana, 3) Blyleven, 4) Perry, 5) Radke), 6) Goltz, 7) Pascual-probably should be higher especially if you include Washington years, 8) Viola, 9) Nathan, 10) Worthington, Chance, Tapani, Aguilera

#24 Physics Guy

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 12:44 PM

1) Santanta 2) Blyleven 3) Kaat 4) Perry 5) Viola 6) Pascual 7) Radke 8) Goltz 9) Nathan 10) Aguilera

#25 Steve J

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 04:01 PM

[quote name='mnfanforlife'][quote name='Steve J'][quote name='Curt'][quote name='Winston Smith']Walter Johnson!

Talk about a year, 1913: 36-7, 1.14 era with 29 complete games. 346 innings, a .78 whip and a 259 era+.[/QUOTE]
I see what you did there. Step to the front of the line, please.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I don't buy into the malarky of disowning history just because it wasn't local as seems to be the rage of conventional wisdom. The Twins/Senators are a historic franchise, not some lousy invention of the 60s[/QUOTE]


Right, they are the same franchise. But the list specifically says "Twins Top Pitchers of All-Time." ................[/QUOTE]

Yes, I know, but I'm not going to enable that sort of selective use of history...

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:08 PM

Santana only had 4 or 5 good to great years with the Twins, this does not a career make. I would rank Blyleven 1 and Kaat 2. Santana comes in at 3. 4 Viola 5. Jim Perry 6. Nathan 7. Aggie 8. Pascual (only because most of his career was with the Senators). 9. Mudcat Grant 10. Morris - I agree it was this important