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#1 TwinsTerritory

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 02:20 PM

I know there will be injuries, trades, and players released, but for fun I'd love to hear who everyone thinks will be on the active 25 man roster on August 31st, the day before rosters expand. I'll go first.

C-Suzuki
1B-Mauer
2B-Dozier
SS-Santana
3B-Plouffe
LF-Arcia
CF-Fuld
RF-Parmelee
DH-Pinto
Be-Escobar
Be-Nunez
Be-Colabello
Be-Herrman

SP-Hughes
SP-Gibson
SP-Nolasco
SP-May
SP-Darnell
RP-Perkins
RP-Burton
RP-Swarzak
RP-Fien
RP-Deduno
RP-Thielbar
RP-Tonkin

Traded: Willingham, Morales, Correia, Duensing
Released: Guerrier
Sept. Call-ups: Meyer, Pino, Fryer, Florimon, Sano?
Notably not called-up: Hicks

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 02:48 PM

Sept. Call-ups: Meyer, Pino, Fryer, Florimon, Sano?
Notably not called-up: Hicks


Sano rehabbing at the MLB level would be a total surprise, I can't see any situation where that happens since he'll be lucky if he's even able to play simulated games by then, but that is a nice bold prediction. The Hicks non-call-up I'd agree with also. The Twins have refused to call up guys in their dog house the last several years.

My guess:
C-Suzuki
1B-Mauer
2B-Dozier
SS-Escobar
3B-Plouffe
LF-Arcia
CF-Santana
RF-Parmelee
DH-Colabello

Be-Fuld
Be-Romero
Be-Florimon
Be-Fryer

SP-Hughes
SP-Gibson
SP-Meyer
SP-May
SP-Pino

RP-Perkins
RP-Burton
RP-Swarzak
RP-Pressly
RP-Deduno
RP-Thielbar
RP-Hoffman

Trade: Willingham, Morales, Correia, Duensing, Fein

Call ups: Pinto, Herrmann, Achter, Tonkin, Iberra, Johnson and Vargas

I'm probably in the minority and hope they sell high on Suzuki as I don't believe he's as good as he appears now, but I think they'll get suckered in due to his strong clubhouse presence, which in fairness, does have some value.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 03:06 PM

My guess

C Pinto
1B Mauer
2B Dozier
SS Escobar
3B Plouffe
RF Arcia
CF Santana
LF Parmelee
DH Colabello
BENCH Nunez, Fryer, Fuld, Herrmann

SP
Gibson
Hughes
Nolasco
May
Darnell

BULLPEN
Perkins
Johnson
Pino
Tonkin
Pressly
Thielbar
Deduno

plus note that up to 8 of the above may not be needed for Twins 2015!

Twins trading away alot of chips, especially Fien, who actually has value and do we want to chance that he becomes the next Burton?

What becomes exciting in all of this is who the Twins add to the 40-man when they delete such names as Willingham, Suzucki, Morales, Correia, Dunesing, Swarzak, Burton, Guerrier.

They are not going to add Sano and start his service time so soon after an injury. They won't add Hoffman, who is now in the Phillies organization. They might add back in folks like Aaron Thompson, Wilkin Ramirez, Chris Rahl, Doug Bernier...giving all a shot as a September call-up with little hopes of maintaining a roster spot come winter. The TWIS do not have to add ANY Meyers and such until the winter, truly, really. Why would they at this moment when the end of the season the Twins can see what Darnell, Johnson, Pino, Tonkin and such will bring to the team or if they bring any value. And, again, many of these 40-man add names, would become minor free agent if not extended.

Yes, would love to see the Twins revert to rebuild mode if they stink come August end and give Buxton and Sano and Rosario and any otehr names at bats, or Berrios and Stewart innings, or maybe even give Kepler a taste so he knows what he has to play for i the next couple of years if he wants to stay a Twin.

Of course, this assumes that most ALL the players the Twins cwould get in return are not 40-man men...yet!
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Posted 08 July 2014 - 03:09 PM

I like Nick's a lot, other than I think Arcia should stay in RF, because that is where he will be next year, imo. And, I'd like more turnover in the RP.

I am really waffling on Suzuki, depending on their willingness to actually play Pinto at C.
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Posted 08 July 2014 - 03:48 PM

Doesn't Suzuki have to stay on the roster even into next year simply because Pinto is not much with the glove? Or will his bat make up for that? Personally I do not think so.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 03:57 PM

I'll take a stab:

C-Pinto, Herrmann
INF-Mauer, Dozier, Nuñez, Escobar, Santana, Plouffe
OF--Fuld, Parmelee, Arcia, Rosario
DH--Colabello

SP--Hughes, Gibson, Nolasco, May, K Johnson
RP-Pino, Swarzak, Deduno, Thielbar, A Thompson, Tonkin, Perkins

This would mean that the following have been moved: Suzuki, Willingham, Morales, Correia, Duensing, Burton, Fien. In actuality, if that many guys are moved, I would expect some of the players received in return to be on the roster.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 04:00 PM

Doesn't Suzuki have to stay on the roster even into next year simply because Pinto is not much with the glove? Or will his bat make up for that? Personally I do not think so.

Accentuate the positive! I don't think Pinto is that bad at all. He works hard, is pretty good at blocking pitches and his throwing problems really aren't due to his arm strength. Learning on the job from August 1st would be fine.

Trying to find a defense-first receiver would be a top priority this off-season if it is deemed that Pinto is that far away. I suspect the verdict will be that he still needs work, but with better than average hitting would translate to an acceptable first string catcher.

Edited by stringer bell, 08 July 2014 - 04:03 PM.


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

C - Pinto, Herrmann, Fryer
INF - Mauer, Dozier, Santana, Plouffe, Nunez, Escobar
OF - Parmelee, Fuld, Arcia
DH - Colabello

SP - Hughes, Gibson, May, Johnson, Deduno (Nolasco DL)
RP - Perkins, Tonkin, Swarzak, Guerrier, Meyer, Thielbar, Darnell

Moved/DFA - Suzuki, Willingham, Morales, Correia, Fien, Duensing, Burton

September call-ups - Florimon, Vargas, Pino, Pressly
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Posted 08 July 2014 - 05:30 PM

C - Pinto, Herrmann, Fryer
INF - Mauer, Dozier, Santana, Plouffe, Nunez, Escobar
OF - Parmelee, Fuld, Arcia
DH - Colabello

SP - Hughes, Gibson, May, Johnson, Deduno (Nolasco DL)
RP - Perkins, Tonkin, Swarzak, Guerrier, Meyer, Thielbar, Darnell

Moved/DFA - Suzuki, Willingham, Morales, Correia, Fien, Duensing, Burton

September call-ups - Florimon, Vargas, Pino, Pressly



If Collabello (31 yrs old next Spring) doesn't hit in this call up. . will he be outrighted by Sept 1 (remember they offered him to a Korean team for $1M) and either Rodriguez or Romero given a shot for 30 games in September before they become minor league Free Agents?

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 08:18 PM

I love this stuff. It's like scribbling on napkins, but now I get to toss it out there for everyone to see. LOL

C= Suzuki (stays) Herrmann. (Let's Pinto play daily until September)
1B=Mauer
2B=Dozier
SS=Escobar...mostly
3B=Plouffe
Ut=Nunez

RF=Arcia
CF=Santana (also at SS) and Fuld
LF=Parmelee

Rest=Colabello and Morales (strong hunches)

SP=Hughes
SP=Nolasco (healthy again)
SP=Gibson
SP=May (I think it's time and real)
SP=Pino (Deduno? Pino is the new Deduno until September barring injury?)

RP=Perkins
RP=Fien (foolish to trade him)
RP=Duensing (sorry haters, but he's solid)
RP=Thielbar (talented, will get better, part of the future)
RP=Swarzak (somewhat down this year, but a solid fixture)
RP=Deduno (Pino?)
RP=Burton or Guerrier (don't see both unless something happens with Pino, Deduno or injury)

A trade could bring back a ML ready OF.

Correia, Willingham are traded, possibly Burton.

I think Suzuki and Morales stay.

September brings up Pinto, Meyer for a taste out of the pen, Tonkin, Achter, Darnell and Johnson.
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Posted 08 July 2014 - 08:31 PM

I'd like to see Polanco get another taste in September, maybe Rosario if he hits for the next 2 months. I also expect Hicks to remain in the doghouse in September.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 08:45 PM

Forget August 31st. Here's the roster I'd like to see on August 1st:

SS-Santana
1B-Mauer
2B-Dozier
RF-Arcia
C-Pinto
DH-Vargas
3B-Plouffe
LF-Parmalee
CF-Rosario

Bench:
-Hermann
-Escobar
-Nunez
-Colabello

Rotation:
-Hughes
-Gibson
-May
-Meyer
-Pinto/Johnson/Darnell

Bullpen:
-Perkins
-Fien
-Theilbar
-Darnel
-Tonkin
-Deduno
-Presley

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:13 PM

Here is what I believe it will be, not if I was GM, but where we will be with TR as GM and Gardenhire still as manager...

C Suzuki, Fryer
1B Mauer
2B Dozier
SS Escobar, Santana, Nunez
3B Plouffe
RF Arcia
LF Parmalee
CF Fuld
DH Colabello

SP Hughes
SP Nolasco
SP Gibson
SP May
SP Pick One (Pino, Johnson, Gilmartin, Darnell, Deduno)

RP Perkins
RP Thielbar
RP Duensing
RP Swarzak
RP Burton
RP Tonkin
RP Fien
RP Deduno (If starting, Hermann will be up at catch)

Meyer on Pitch limit will be unavailable until call ups at which point he will get a cup of coffee in the bull pen.

Only trades will be Willingham, Correia, and Morales.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:19 PM

Might as well take a shot.
C - Suzuki, Fryer
1B Mauer
2B Escobar
SS Santana
3B Plouffe - would like to see him traded Probably not enough value in return
RF Arcia
CF Rosaro - placeholder for Buxton
LF Parmelee
DH Colobello
Bench Nunez, Fuld. Morales - not enough value to trade

SP Hughes
SP Gibson
SP Nolasco - if healthy
SP May
SP Pino

RP Perkins
RP Burton
RP Thielbar
RP Deduno if not starting
RP Swarzak
RP Presley
RP Achter
RP Darnell

#15 Shane Wahl

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:38 PM

What should be:

C - Pinto
1B - Mauer
2B - Dozier
3B - Plouffe
SS - Santana
LF - Parmelee
CF - Hicks
RF - Arcia
DH - Colabello

B - Escobar
B - Fuld
B - Herrmann
B - Nunez

SP - Hughes, Gibson, May, Nolasco, Meyer
Bullpen - Deduno, Oliveros, Swarzak, Achter, Thielbar, Tonkin, Perkins

Traded: Willingham, Suzuki, Morales, Correia, Duensing, Fien (think two good prospects in the top 250 overall, and a few more in the top 500 overall).

Gone: Burton, Fryer, Guerrier

I feel like I am forgetting somebody else who will be gone, but whatever.

Also: September calls should go to Rohlfing, Romero, Guerra, Darnell, Beresford, and Ortiz.

Edited by Shane Wahl, 08 July 2014 - 10:44 PM.


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:47 PM

Add Vargas as a callup

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:28 AM

By August 31'st this is all gut based hypothesizing, but enjoyable and intriguing nonetheless.

C- Chris Herrmann (just a small gut feeling he takes the job for a while)
1B- Joe Mauer
2B- Brian Dozier
3B- Trevor Plouffe
SS- Danny Santana
LF- Chris Colabello
CF- Sam Fuld
RF- Oswaldo Arcia
DH- Josmil Pinto

Bench: Escobar, Nunez, Fryer, (Parmelee, W. Ramirez, E. Farris, D. Ortiz)

Rotation: Hughes, Gibson, Nolasco (just back from DL), May, Darnell
-Note: Kris Johnson/Logan Darnell start in place of Nolasco while on DL

Bullpen: Perkins, Fien, Thielbar, Swarzak, Pressly, Tonkin, Johnson

Traded: Willingham, Correia, Morales, Duensing, Burton, Suzuki, Deduno

Gone somehow: Guerrier

Call-Ups: Farris (if not already on the bench), Polanco, Achter, Romero, Vargas, Hamburger/Thompson/Pino, Ibarra
-Note: I would like to see Beresford, Guerra, and Gilmartin, but 10 call ups is far more than likely. Also note that there is no Meyer, because I believe he will get a look before August 31'st and reach an innings limit/is shut down. If he is around by the end of the season I don't belive he will be used much at all.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 08:41 AM

Interesting lineups all but hopefully come spring of 2015 any of these predictions will be wrong or next season will easily be another 90+ loss fiasco. Plus just about everyone is predicting that when Sano and Buxton and Meyer and May are up for good (2016 & beyond) a contending team will ensue. It will take much more than just those four players for excellence to start happening at Target Field. Hopefully Twins management can cobble it all together effectively.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:15 AM

Interesting lineups all but hopefully come spring of 2015 any of these predictions will be wrong or next season will easily be another 90+ loss fiasco. Plus just about everyone is predicting that when Sano and Buxton and Meyer and May are up for good (2016 & beyond) a contending team will ensue. It will take much more than just those four players for excellence to start happening at Target Field. Hopefully Twins management can cobble it all together effectively.

This is the best comment. You can't trade everyone that has value for prospects and expect to be competitive next year or in 2016. The Twins won't be able to get high ceiling major league ready prospects for guys like Fien or Suzuki - they'll only bring high ceiling guys in A ball, if that, or decent higher level prospects. Why trade an established major league player for that unless you really want to start over? Suzuki stays and gets a 2 year reasonable value contract; Fien stays. Willingham and Correia go. Morales goes unless he'll sign now (would be great, but unlikely), and Duensing, Burton, and deduno go if we can get a good return, otherwise stay. roster:

C - Suzuki, Chris Herrmann
1B- Mauer
2B- Dozier
3B- Plouffe
SS- Escobar/Nunez (UT)
LF- Parmalee
CF- Santana/Fuld (4th OF)
RF- Oswaldo Arcia
DH-Colabello/ Pinto

Bench: Nunez, Fuld, Colabello/Pinto, Herrman

Rotation: Hughes, Gibson, Nolasco (just back from DL), May, Darnell/Pino/Kris Johnson ( whoever does the best in their 3-4 start try-outs, 2 of them if Nolasco is out for awhile)

BP - Perkins, Fien, Theilbar, Swarzak, Deduno, Pressly, Achter, one of the losers from the Pino/Johnson/Darnell starter sweepstakes.

Meyer gets a bullpen taste in September. I'd also like to se them give Robinson (AAA 3rd baseman) a taste to see how he hits. That may happen if trades are made so he can go on the 40 man roster. It would let the Twins know if either he or Plouffe is a viable trade piece in the off season.

traded - Willingham, Correia, Duensing, Burton, Morales - all for prospects. Hopefully at least one prospect will be CF so Santana can move to SS and Escobar can be a UT along with Nunez. New CF prospect means either Fuld or the loser of the Colabello/Parmalee race goes, probably Fuld.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:22 PM

Always scary putting thoughts down permanently on such a volatile situation as the Twins 25 man roster. First a quick question, when was the last time a team moved 6+ players at the deadline? Suzuki, Willingham, Morales, Correia, Duensing, Fien or Burton might all draw interest but they're not all going to get moved. Even if they all had suitors and deals to match the Twins aren't the Cubs/Astros/Marlins. They just won't move that many veterans.

Alright putting my own thoughts down.

C: Suzuki
1B: Mauer
2B: Dozier
SS: Santana
3B: Plouffe
LF: Parmelee
CF: Hicks
RF: Arcia
DH: Vargas

Bench: Nunez, Fryer, Escobar, Colabello

SP: Hughes
SP: Correia
SP: Nolasco (or Meyer if Nolasco spends significant time on DL)
SP: Gibson
SP: May

RP: Perkins
RP: Fien
RP: Thielbar
RP: Swarzak
RP: Pressly
RP: Tonkin
RP: Ibarra

I think Duensing, Morales and Willingham get traded. Correia is bad enough that he isn't tradeable but not terrible enough to out right cut him. Burton and Deduno get DFA'd. I think the Twins realize that Meyer and May are the future and they will get the starts instead of Pino/Johnson assuming it's more than a spot start or two. Logan Darnell could go to the bullpen instead of Ibarra. I fully expect Hicks to be recalled at the beginning of August. The Twins don't have any other CF close (despite the wishes of the Twins public and perhaps FO too). He is only 24 and he is starting to show he can hit AA pitching again. In a lost season there is no reason he doesn't get another shot (unless he is really scuffling in the minors). I'm probably a little bullish on Vargas. It's more likely that Colabello is at DH with Vargas at AAA.

Edited by Oxtung, 09 July 2014 - 12:26 PM.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:45 PM

TwinsTerritory: Regarding the four players you have traded - you do not have their replacements listed on your roster or even speculation as to who they will be. Please advise.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:12 PM

oldguy10: I didn't list any players in return because I don't see any of the four bringing back major league level players. I would suspect that they would bring back A or AA players. If a team has a marginal OF (think Alex Presley, Sam Fuld, Darin Mastoianni), the Twins might look at that type of throw in.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:56 PM

They won't add Hoffman, who is now in the Phillies organization.


Yes, that would seem unlikely. I was thinking of Aaron Thompson, the other journeyman lefty at Rochester. It's hard to keep all of Rochester's journeymen lefties straight. I predict he replaces Duensing while Johnson continues to start in Rochester.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:10 PM

I forgot about Vargas. If Willingham and Morales goes, he is up. I don't see the team adding any REAL future prospects to the 40-ma Just people ike Rohlfing or Beresfrd getting a cup of coffee. Maybe Deolis Guerra.
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:48 PM

TwinsTerritory - The Twins already have marginal players in their system, why would they need more? And Sam Fuld is even on the MLB roster. And they have already gone through Presley and Mastroianni and found both wanting. Marginal prospects would be fine but not players of the ilk you list, please.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:50 PM

My guess:

C Suzuki (Will be overpaid in an extension)
1B Mauer
2B Dozier
SS Santana/Escobar
3B Plouffe
LF Parmelee
CF Fuld/Santana
RF Arcia

Bench: Colabello, Herrman (UTIL), Pinto (C/DH), whoever is not playing between Fuld and Escobar.

Rotation (in any order):
Hughes
Gibson
Pino
Nolasco (if healthy, otherwise Kris Johnson)
May

Bullpen:

Perkins (CL)
Burton
Fien
Duensing
Thielbar
Swarzak
Deduno

Sano will not play in a game this year. Meyer is almost guaranteed not to get called up. Those have been said by the organization.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 04:01 PM

TwinsTerritory - The Twins already have marginal players in their system, why would they need more? And Sam Fuld is even on the MLB roster. And they have already gone through Presley and Mastroianni and found both wanting. Marginal prospects would be fine but not players of the ilk you list, please.


I don't think they will look for guys like that, I simply meant that would be the only type of major league ready player that they may take back in a trade. You are correct that they have plenty of marginal players in the system, but not major league ready outfielders (particularly center fielders). As a throw in to a trade, they may take back somebody to play outfield for a couple months, especially if they trade Willingham and don't want to bring Hicks back up this year.

Your first post asked where the players are that they will get in return. My answer is they will be in Fort Myers, Cedar Rapids, and New Britain, not on the 25 man roster this year.