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GAME CHANGER vs MODEL of CONSISTENCY

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Crazy Question:
1) Would you rather have player (A) who averaged 1 hit per game while going 1 for 4 every game during his season, but got on base at a .250 OBP and had a .527 Slugging Percentage. (30 HRs / 10 Triples / 30 Doubles / 92 singles / 302 Total Bases / 104 Runs Scored / 124 RBI)?
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2) Would you rather have player (B) who through an entire season, got on base at a .405 OBP and had a .468 Slugging percentage. (10 HRs / 4 Triples / 28 Doubles / 168 singles / 276 Total Bases / 84 Runs Scored / 62 RBI)?

Consider that these stats stay pretty consistent from year to year. Both players play for the same team, however player A hits in the 4 hole and Player B hits in the 2 hole. Which player would you consider more valuable? Both have a strong value in terms of winning needs. The crazy question becomes: Who helps us win now with the current roster in place? And Who helps us win more in 2016 and beyond?

In my opinion - Player "A" is a game changer and Player "B" is the model of consistency. Player "A" can change a game outcome with 1 swing, while Player "B" needs a stronger cast of players around him to prove his worth. YOUR PICK WOULD BE............? & WHY?
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  1. Hosken Bombo Disco's Avatar
    Do you have an opinion?? and are there specific players behind this? The OBP for the home run guy looks unrealistically low with the huge gap in OPS. For the long baseball season I'd rather have the on-base guy, which was what Moneyball was predicated on-- get on base, no bunts, no steals, let the next guy come up and get on base, keep the line moving, and so on, inning after inning, game after game, all year. Of course those Oakland teams also had great pitching...

    Tweak the numbers and it would be an interesting experiment to simulate a bunch of seasons with those guys and all others factors being equal. NCAA brackets get simulated a lot this time of year.
  2. Dainir's Avatar
    If they were both on the same team, I would say player A isn't doing his job very well.

    Player B is scoring on 53% of his singles and doubles.

    Whereas player A is scoring on 52% of his singles and doubles.
  3. lightfoot789's Avatar
    The OBP is somewhat unrealistic for Player "A". That being said: With a slightly better OBP (.320), but better similar numbers in other categories, who would you then take?
    Player "A" is fictional - Player "B" is Joe Mauer's average numbers over 10 years.

    I hope we never become a money ball team. I like bunts and stolen bases and hit and runs. Play small ball with your small ball guys and let your Big Boppers do the Bopping. That should be the Twins Way of the future. Lot's of speed on the horizon and lot's of Power.

    The same way Jake Mauer led the Kernels to the BEST record in the MiLB. And he did it with a pitching staff that was 8th out of 16 teams. Speed and Power will be the Twins Way. Chemistry and Character will determine our future. How do our pieces fit moving forward? Is there chemistry with our prospects and Big Leaguers? Just do your job doesn't always work. I'm excited to see the chemistry of our lower level teams. Winning breeds winning.
  4. lightfoot789's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dainir
    If they were both on the same team, I would say player A isn't doing his job very well.

    Player B is scoring on 53% of his singles and doubles.

    Whereas player A is scoring on 52% of his singles and doubles.
    Interesting - So should player "A" be batting 7th or 8th and player "B" become the new clean up hitter. How would Joe do as a clean up hitter?
  5. Hosken Bombo Disco's Avatar
    I suspected that might be Mauer but I think the three hole is fine (maybe move him up to second for a while if you feel the need). Arcia and/or Willingham batting behind him should be ok.

    I'm a believer in chemistry, and also a believer in promoting Jake Mauer to the big leagues as a bench coach. Why not?
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