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J-Dog Dungan

Moves to Come?

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As everyone who stays caught up on Twins news knows by now, Ryan Doumit was traded to the Braves yesterday for Sean Gilmartin. When I heard about this news, it got me thinking. At the moment, the Twins have a high number pitchers on their 40-man roster. After they added Gilmartin, their 2013 AAA pitching group got even more crowded, and I have a feeling that more moves might be coming to fix that.

The Twins' pitching rotation at the Major League level currently includes Phil Hughes, Ricky Nolasco, Kevin Correia, and Mike Pelfrey. That leaves one spot for a fair number of starters, including Scott Diamond, Sam Deduno, Vance Worley, and possibly even Andrew Albers, Kyle Gibson, and Anthony Swarzak. For the sake of argument (and because I am a huge fan of the guy), let's say Sam Deduno wins the spot (with the reasoning that, despite his age, he has great pitches and he is a real competitor). That leaves Diamond, Worley, Albers and Gibson without a rotation spot in the Majors for the time being (with Swarzak staying in the bullpen as the long relief guy). Not to mention that Alex Meyer is likely going to either start in AAA or move up to AAA partway through the season.

This leaves the Twins with another logjam to lighten up, this time in the AAAA pitcher group. At the moment, they are looking for a part-time catcher, possibly a SS, and always looking to upgrade their starting rotation. Obviously, none of the AAAA pitchers are viable enough to turn into a good starting pitcher. However, it is likely that a package of two pitchers could possibly wrangle an okay package.

I don't really have any idea of what kind of package would wrangle any non-C level prospect, but I would believe that Terry Ryan can make something happen. Give me ideas of what pitchers you think you might trade.
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  1. johnnydakota's Avatar
    Burch Smith is young and avalible from San Diego
    or a catcher from Huston, Stassi who has Castro blocking him
  2. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnydakota
    Burch Smith is young and avalible from San Diego
    or a catcher from Huston, Stassi who has Castro blocking him
    I was thinking about Houston. They are still going cheap, might be willing to get some affordable pitching for a catching prospect.
  3. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
    I agree. The problem is that AAAA players are not that hard to find. Most MLB rosters feature some of those players.

    I cannot see the Twins putting together a group of potential 5th starters and actually getting anything. No one else has the roster room, either.

    Cannot imagine why the Padres would let Smith go. He's their Alex Meyer.

    There is no SS on the market that looks better than Escobar's numbers from AAA last year.

    I agree, J-Dog, that for some reason I don't think TR is done.
    Just cannot imagine what's next.
  4. twinsfan34's Avatar
    I'd love to hear if any of the Braves guys are available.

    They have 6 starters and the tail end are better than our group of AAA guys. Beachy would be the guy I'd target, however, we just traded with them, so it would have been more condusive to try to get him then.

    I think Alex Meyer will end up with the 5th spot out of Spring Training. I can't see any of those other guys really giving him much of a challenge. Sure they might put up good Spring Training numbers. But if Meyer isn't missing his locations (catcher sits outside, pitch flies inside) and has doesn't have a high BB% total - I just can't see them pitching him every 5th or 6th day as the #5.

    I haven't been much of a believer in Kyle Gibson since we drafted him. But he seems like a great guy, intelligent, and at least before his injury - a crafty pitcher. So I'd pull for him, even though I never thought he'd ever be part of a MLB rotation.

    The glut of AAAA guys is somewhat nice in that if there's a shoulder tweak or anything like that you can just bring up a guy and he can pitch on short notice. One of those AAAA guys who can do a pinch start is usually the long reliever, a la Brian Duensing.

    I had no idea Doumit could be traded. So that's about as much as I know going forward, but I agree with the guys above, I think there will be a few more trades that ultimately affect the 25 man roster.
  5. nicksaviking's Avatar
    I don't think the 5th starter candidates get packaged together. I think one of them gets packaged with a reliever like Duensing/Swarzak/Burton or Fein. Perhaps another starter gets packaged with Plouffe. His days at 3B are numbered and the Twins have been talking about Mark Reynolds.
  6. ChrisKnutson's Avatar
    Trade Albers with a reliever, Duensing or Burton. because Albers was somewhat of a decent starting pitcher and could build on that, maybe not, that's why you'd add a reliever. In return you'd probably get an AAA minor leaguer who's a decent SS or SP.
  7. lightfoot789's Avatar
    What would we have to give up to receive Castro from the Cubs? Young gifted SS who could pair with any of our 2B options for years to come. What would it take????????????
    They still have Baez for SS and Ott for 3B moving forward.

    Arcia? & Diamond and / or Gibson
    Rosario? & Pitchers
    Ideas????
    Dozier?
  8. howieramone's Avatar
    [QUOTE=lightfoot789;bt9934]What would we have to give up to receive Castro from the Cubs? Young gifted SS who could pair with any of our 2B options for years to come. What would it take????????????
    They still have Baez for SS and Ott for 3B moving forward.

    Arcia? & Diamond and / or Gibson
    Rosario? & Pitchers
    Ideas????
    Dozier?[/QUOTE]

    I like Castro also. I would start with Berrios and Thorpe. King Theo is in a rebuild just like us, but their ETA is 2016. His future position talent rivals ours, but we have more starting pitching prospects.
  9. johnnydakota's Avatar
    [QUOTE=Oldgoat_MN;bt9921]I agree. The problem is that AAAA players are not that hard to find. Most MLB rosters feature some of those players.

    I cannot see the Twins putting together a group of potential 5th starters and actually getting anything. No one else has the roster room, either.

    Cannot imagine why the Padres would let Smith go. He's their Alex Meyer.

    There is no SS on the market that looks better than Escobar's numbers from AAA last year.

    I agree, J-Dog, that for some reason I don't think TR is done.
    Just cannot imagine what's next.[/QUOTE]
    MLBR has reported it twice in the last month that he was avalible and once that Matt Wisler was also
  10. johnnydakota's Avatar
    As for Alex Meyer breaking camp with the Twins,I would be pissed, we are not going any where with this team as it is, so why give up a year of team controll in a waste year? He can come up in July after a few months in AAA if he does well and get established
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