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Twins Trade Talk 2012: July 30

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[I]Originally published at [URL="http://tenthinningstretch.blogspot.com/2012/07/twins-trade-talk-2012-july-30.html"]The Tenth Inning Stretch[/URL][/I]
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This continues the dialy trade talk updates for the Twins and of action around the league that influences the Twins trade moves, up until the deadline. You can find all the older updates [URL="http://tenthinningstretch.blogspot.com/search/label/Twins%20Trade%20Talk%202012"]here[/URL], in reverse chronological order. Here is the Twins Trade Talk the past 24 hours or so:


[LIST][*][B]Fransisco Liriano[/B] to the [B]Chicago White Sox [/B]is old news. [URL="http://tenthinningstretch.blogspot.com/2012/07/twins-trade-talk-2012-july-29-what-did.html"]Here[/URL] are profiles of the players the Twins received in return. [URL="https://twitter.com/RhettBollinger/status/229423372851892224"]Apparently[/URL] the Twins did not even talk about an extension at this point. and the [B]Boston Red Sox[/B] [URL="https://twitter.com/nickcafardo/status/229718234029502464"]were finalists[/URL] up to the trade time. I wonder what their offer was to make the Twins' interim GM, Terry Ryan, trade within the division...[*]The last trade between the Twins and the White Sox was on September 3, 1986 when the Minnesota Twins traded Pete Filson to the Chicago White Sox for Kurt Walker. The last trade between the two teams that involved a decent player was on February 19, 1985 when the Twins traded Roch Scheer and Randy Johnson (Not [B]THAT[/B] Randy Jonhson) to the White Sox for current TV analyst Roy Smalley. And both of those times, the White Sox were in a different division (AL East vs AL West.) The first ever trade between the two franchises was in June 13, 1903 when Ducky Holmes was traded by the Senators to the White Sox for a player to be named later and became Davey Dunkle a week afterwards.[*]Meanwhile, Twins' players [URL="http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_21186369/minnesota-twins-reaction-liriano-trade-disappointment"]were disappointed[/URL] by the Liriano trade and White Sox GM Kenny Williams [URL="https://twitter.com/PMac21/status/229653391889014785"]apparently[/URL] thinks that they see some flaws they can fix to improve Liriano. [URL="http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120729&content_id=35760758&vkey=news_min&c_id=min"]Here[/URL] are some additional reactions of Twins' players and coaches. Liriano himself [URL="http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/8212051/francisco-liriano-surprised-trade-minnesota-twins-chicago-white-sox"]was surprised[/URL] by the trade.[*]On the Ron Gardenhire show on ESPN 1500 yesterday morning, Gardenhire said that there have been discussion about [B]Justin Morneau [/B]and he really does not want[B] Josh Willingham[/B] to leave the Twins.[*]Bob Nightengale [URL="https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/229644026771550208"]indicates[/URL] that the Twins are talking to other teams about[B] Denard Span, [/B]but unlike what Terry Ryan said (ie. that he is after single A prospects,) he is looking for an MLB-ready pitcher in return.[*]This is a strange one (but very true) : The [B]Seattle Mariners[/B] [URL="http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/article/sources_mariners_considering_willingham_craig/11325958"]are interested[/URL] in [B]Josh Willingham[/B]. A package of [B]Héctor Noesí [/B]and/or [B]Erasmo Ramírez [/B]and maybe even [B]Taijuan Walker[/B] could be in the works[*][B]Justin Morneau, Matt Capps, Carl Pavano [/B]and [B]Nick Blackburn [/B]all make Jon Heyman's [URL="http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/19681436/soriano-lee-santana-wells-francoeur-and-25-more-who-could-be-traded-after-july-31"]list[/URL] of players who can get traded via waiver trades after tomorrow's deadline. Nick Blackburn? That is hopeful.[/LIST]

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  1. Winston Smith's Avatar
    Blackburn???? How much would we have to pay for somebody to take him?
    I don't see how trading in the division is even a factor at this time of year when he is a free agent after the season. Do people really think he could come back to ruin our season?
  2. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    I really see the Twins keeping Willingham, and they (in my opinion) really shouldn't even think about trading him until the deadline next year.
  3. Thrylos's Avatar
    [QUOTE=Winston Smith;bt3303] Do people really think he could come back to ruin our season?[/QUOTE]

    Some of us think that if he helps the White Sox make the post season (ie. add more $ to their coffers because of ticket sales, so they have more $ to spend to field a better team in the future) is a bad move...

    Nobody can ruin the Twins season. Ryan and Gardy and Co took care of that
  4. Winston Smith's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by thrylos98
    Some of us think that if he helps the White Sox make the post season (ie. add more $ to their coffers because of ticket sales, so they have more $ to spend to field a better team in the future) is a bad move...

    Nobody can ruin the Twins season. Ryan and Gardy and Co took care of that
    I would hope that any gm would take the best offer if he doesn't he's hurting his own team. If you look at trades afraid it will hurt you more than help you it shouldn't be made. If Ryan didn't take the best offer he should be fired.
  5. Thrylos's Avatar
    Hard to tell what the best offer is. Actually in most cases you have to wait a few years. We all thought that the Bullock for Diamond trade was a bust last season, but this season is different.
    What I am talking about is more a matter of principle: You don't help division opponents and you don't trade within your division no matter what. Now the Twins have traded with everyone but the Royals in the division within the last calendar year.
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