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Twins Consensus Top 71 Prospects List (off-season rankings)

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Originally published at The Tenth Inning Stretch
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This is way overdue. My goal was to get it a. within the few days of theseason (that passed) and then b. before the amateur MLB draft that will bring in a new influx of talent to the Twins. So I am sticking with it. And Seth Stohs already starting his mid-season rankings, really made me want to get this up before it is too obsolete. And before I post my post-draft rankings for 2012



I have not done prospect rankings for a couple of years now, mainly because I did not see the players play. Now that I have spent a good 15 hours or so watching Twins' prospects of all levels live in Spring Training, I feel confident to create a post-draft top prospects list (or 2 really; I like to separate pitchers from position players in these lists; ) this had to come up first as a housekeeping item. Thus, I decided to do a consensus list. What is a consensus list? A consensus (or aggregate or composite) ranking is a ranking based on other rankings calculating averages. This is what this list is.


A bit about methodology: I combined 25 rankings of Twins top prospects. Some of them were top 10, some of them top 50. So I ended up with 71 names. The players were scored from 1 until the last position in the ranking (lets say 10 in a ten prospect list) and the ones who appeared in the master list but did not appear in the individual list were scored as one over the lowest ranking (i.e. prospects in the master list, but not in a top 10 list were scored as 11). The reason that this is required, is to not have artificially highrankings when results were averaged from players omitted in most lists but ranked high in one or 2. After all players in the master list were scored this way, their average scores were calculated and a new consensus ranking was created. This is the consensus list I am presenting here.



What are the 25 sources? They are both national and local to the Twins'area, both professional and bloggers. And they are were weighted the same. My rationale in this is a. several Twins bloggers (Seth Stohs, for one) have a much more intimate view of the Twins' system than Baseball America. and b. Twins' bloggers care more and pay more attention to the Twins' system and get to watch more Twins' MiLB games than Keith Law, Johnathan Mayo or Kevin Goldstein. But the other guys have "professional" opinions. So here every opinion weighs the same. Here is a list of the 25 sources (alphabetically) :



Baseball America

Baseball Intellect

Jim Crikket (Knuckleballs)

Aaron Gleeman

Keith Law

Kevin Goldstein (Baseball Prospectus)

Fanatic Jack Steal

Fangraphs

Field of Twins

Gear up for Twins baseball

Jonathan Mayo

MLBDirt.com

MLB Prospect Portal

LaVelle Neal

Nick's Twins Blog

North Dakota Twins Fan

Jeff Reese- Bullpen Banter

John Seikels

On the road with Shawn

Puckett's Pond

Al Scorupa -Bullpen Banter

Seth Stohs

Travis Talks Twins

Top prospect alert

Twinkie Town - community ranking



This is what the master list looks in Excel:






And if you want to have a close look, original size is here (and I did copy and paste a row -Lance Ray- twice; this would not fit in one screen)



There are 71 names in the list, but six of the players listed are no longer with the Twins for various reasons (alphabetically) : Matt Bashore, Philip Chapman, Tony Davis, Terry Doyle and Kane Holbrooks



Without further ado, here is the consensus rankings list of the top Twins' prospects this off-season (one can call it "post 2011 season" ) list :



1 Miguel Sano 3B

2 Eddie Rosario 2B/OF

3 Oswaldo Arcia OF

4 Aaron Hicks OF

5 Joe Benson OF

6 Liam Hendriks P

7 Kyle Gibson P

8 Levi Michael IF

9 Adrian Salcedo P

10 Brian Dozier IF

11 Chris Parmelee 1B/OF

12 Alex Wimmers P

13 Travis Harrison IF

14 Hudson Boyd P

15 Max Kepler OF

16 Madison Boer P

17 Angel Morales OF

18 Chris Herrmann C

19 Manuel Soliman P

20 Niko Goodrum IF

21 Tom Stuifbergen P

22 David Bromberg P

23 Garlos Gutierrez P

24 Nate Roberts IF/OF

25 BJ Hermsen P

26 Matt Hauser P

27 Matt Summers P

28 Pat Dean P

29 JaDamion Williams OF

30 Jairo Perez IF

31 Deolis Guerra P

32 Tyler Robertson P

33 Corey Williams P

34 Logan Darnell P

35 Scott Diamond P

36 Danny Rams C/OF

37 Jorge Polanco IF

38 Lance Ray OF

39 Danny Santana IF

40 Lester Oliveros P

41 Tyler Grimes IF

42 Jose Gonzales P

43 Danny Ortiz IF

44 Angel Mata P

45 Tim Shibuya P

46 James Beresford IF

47 Michael Gonzales 1B

48 Bruce Pugh P

49 Cole DeVries P

50 Michael Tonkin P

51 Dakota Watts P

52 Nelvin Fuentes P

53 Bobby Lanigan P

54 Rory Rhodes 1B/OF

55 Evan Bigley OF

56 Kennys Vargas 1B/OF

57 Andrew Albers P

58 Anthony Slama P

59 Anderson Hidalgo IF/OF

60 Ryan O' Rourke P

61 Hung-yi Chen P

62 Danny Lehmann C

63 Darin Mastroianni OF

64 Derek Rodriguez OF

65 Luis Nunez P

66 Kyle Waldrop P



Just thinking about the 2012 Twins' draft and how they might want to supplement the system, there are way too many OFs and not enough Ps in the top spots (and this is not about to change in the mid-season rankings) and there are not enough infielders in the whole system (other than the top 2 spots).
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  1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    The one-stop shop for prospect lists. I have compiled a master using 4 lists before . . . and that was a lot. Great work!

    And your brief analysis is correct. The (middle) infield has some potential if Levi Michael and Tyler Grimes get it going, Danny Santana continues doing what he is doing, and Eddie Rosario sticks at second. Third base is a big hole unless Sano stays there. Like . . . they got Jairo Perez and Anderson Hidalgo sorta playing those positions.

    But it is all about pitching. The system is full of guys who could be 5th starters and middle relievers. Other than that, injuries are causing major problems.
  2. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    What happened to Waldrop? i thought that he was one of the Twins last cuts before ST ended because he was injured, and now he is #66?
  3. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    J-Dog, no "now" he isn't. Going into the season he was. That will change for some people. I had him at 50+ (51 here). But he actually isn't going to jump that much.

    Take from that what you will--either the Twins are really starved for MLB-ready pitchers, or there is actually more talent in the system than a lot of people know about. Last year's draft was big for that.
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