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  • Kyle Gibson Makes First Rehab Start

    • A ground ball to the shortstop for the first out.
    • A walk.
    • A ground ball to second base which was turned into an inning-ending double play.



    That may not seem like much to get overly excited about, but for Twins fans, it was a good day!

    For the first time since he was placed on the Disabled List on August 2, 2011, Kyle Gibson pitched off of a mound in a game on Tuesday morning. It may have been a 10:00 a.m. eastern time start time in the Gulf Coast League, but don’t let that minimize the huge milestone.

    The Twins used the 22nd overall pick in the 2009 draft to select Gibson, a right-handed pitcher from the University of Missouri. He climbed the ladder quickly, and in 2010 was named the organization’s minor league pitcher of the year when he began the year in Ft. Myers and ended it in Rochester. He began the 2011 season with the Red Wings and pitched well for two months, but then things started going south. Although he pitched in the Futures Game a year ago, something wasn’t right. His elbow was hurting and after a stretch of rough starts, he was put on the Disabled List. An MRI in early August showed a partial tear of his Ulnar Collateral Ligament, and after rehabbing for a month, he had Tommy John surgery on September 7, 2011.

    In early June, Gibson threw off of a mound for the first time and said it “went really good. Arm felt great!” He has gradually added more pitches to his mound sessions. Last Friday, he pitched some live batting practice. Following it, he tweeted that “it went about as well as I could hope for.”

    Which brings us to today. It was just one inning, but for Gibson, it was another key milestone passed with flying colors. In fact, according to the Pioneer Press’s John Shipley, assistant GM Rob Antony said that Gibson touched 94 mph during his one-inning stint.

    No one knows how players will return from Tommy John surgery. Pitchers like Tim Hudson and Billy Wagner came back in less than a year and were as good as ever. Others, such as Francisco Liriano, take longer to find their stuff again. Joe Mays was never able to regain his form. Knowing that, however, Kyle Gibson also knew and was aware of the path that Nationals starting pitcher Stephen Strasburg took after his surgery.

    Strasburg had his Tommy John surgery in September of 2010. Kyle Gibson had his Tommy John surgery in September of 2011. Strasburg made his first rehab appearance in early July, as has Gibson. Strasburg got back to the big leagues in September. If all goes well for Gibson in the next month, it is very possible that he will return to the Triple-A Rochester Red Wings and be right where he was being his injury. Who knows? A September call-up also remains an outside possibility.

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    GCL Twins 5, GCL RED SOX 11


    The Gulf Coast Twins are the only Twins affiliate that played on All-Star game day. They had a 10:00 a.m. start time. Gibson started and worked the first inning. Yorman Landa gave up four runs (3 earned) on three hits and four walks in two innings. Hung Yi Chen gave up one run on three hits and a walk in his two innings. Markus Solbach gave up two runs on four hits in 1.1 innings. He was relieved by Trent Higginbotham who gave up four runs on four hits and two walks in 2.1 innings. Chris Mazza got the final out.

    Gibson wasn’t the only player rehabbing in this game. Rene Tosoni led off and went 0-3 with a walk while playing in left field. Javier Pimentel was 2-4 with his fourth and fifth doubles. Jose Ramirez went 2-3. Kelvin Ortiz went 2-4. Kelly Cross was 2-5.

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    Games Scheduled for Wednesday, July 11, 2011

    Rochester Red Wings – All Star Game (Pedro Florimon)
    New Britain Rock Cats – All Star Game (BJ Hermsen, Chris Herrmann, Daniel Turpen)
    Ft. Myers @ Clearwater – RHP Tom Stuifbergen
    Beloit @ Ft. Myers – TBD
    Elizabethton @ Greeneville – TBD
    GCL Twins @ GCL Orioles - TBD

    This article was originally published in blog: Kyle Gibson Makes First Rehab Start started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 80 Comments
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      Learn something everyday....thx
    1. righty8383's Avatar
      righty8383 -
      Struck out the 1st 6 batters he faced!
    1. shs_59's Avatar
      shs_59 -
      YES Yeah buddy
      Gibby is on the comeback trail.... he's our Scott Baker V 2.0.

      Gibby and Baker in the 2 and 3 slots in the rotation by mid-season next yr. and Diamond and Hendriks or De Vries or Dedundo in the back end isn't too shabby.

      just need that top or opening day starter.... Shawn Marcum? - Klye Lohse? - ANibal Sanchez?

      Sanchez would get my vote...
    1. kab21's Avatar
      kab21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Badsmerf View Post
      Right, but what you're really worried about when bringing up a prospect is having them become a super 2 with arb. I forget the exact qualifying numbers, but bringing them up in september would have little impact on it if the Twins plan to have him in the rotation from day 1 next year. If they don't, then there isn't much of a point to have him up unless they let him start.
      Super 2 is one reason to delay his callup but delaying his FA is another. If you wait until May 2013 to call him he'll be a super 2 but there will be one additional year before he is eligible for FA. That is a big deal and more important than super 2 imo. Super 2 costs money but the player is still in the org.
    1. Badsmerf's Avatar
      Badsmerf -
      Maybe I'm missing something, I don't want to look up the info, and I'm sure there are noobs on here that have no idea what a super 2 is. So (common voice)... If Gibson were to come up this Sept. then sent back to AAA until May of 2013, he would then probably qualify as a super 2 since in 2013 he would get enough innings. If they waited until mid June he might not quality, since he might not get enough innings. However, the IP or PA varies slightly every year right? So, even if he becomes a super 2, why would his appearance in September have anything to do with it? A player has a certain number of years of service time before arb (3 right?). So, a super 2 would basically mean 2013 would count as an arb year, regardless of his appearance in 2012. Like I said, I'm not looking this up and will take your word for it if I'm wrong.
    1. diehardtwinsfan's Avatar
      diehardtwinsfan -
      I think he'd need to pitch a bit more than this September to be a super 2 for 2015.. The problem is that there's no guarantee his arb clock should even be starting in 2013. Unless he's actually dominating in Rochester come May of next year, I'd imagine he's going to spend most of that season down there... which will make him a super 2 for the 2016 season.
    1. Badsmerf's Avatar
      Badsmerf -
      Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
      I think he'd need to pitch a bit more than this September to be a super 2 for 2015.. The problem is that there's no guarantee his arb clock should even be starting in 2013. Unless he's actually dominating in Rochester come May of next year, I'd imagine he's going to spend most of that season down there... which will make him a super 2 for the 2016 season.
      Correct... I think. The amount he would pitch in Sept this year wouldn't make as much of a difference as when the Twins call him up next year.
    1. Jeremy Nygaard's Avatar
      Jeremy Nygaard -
      With the new CBA, the top 22% of players with less than 3 years of service will be a "Super 2". (That number is up from 17% previously).

      So, long story longer, more players will be Super-2s pushing the service time cutoff down (and making that "call-up" date even earlier). Follow?

      At any rate, it's impossible to know what that cutoff will be, but if that's a consideration, I wouldn't call him up until at least the end of June.
    1. Badsmerf's Avatar
      Badsmerf -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Nygaard View Post
      With the new CBA, the top 22% of players with less than 3 years of service will be a "Super 2". (That number is up from 17% previously).

      So, long story longer, more players will be Super-2s pushing the service time cutoff down (and making that "call-up" date even earlier). Follow?

      At any rate, it's impossible to know what that cutoff will be, but if that's a consideration, I wouldn't call him up until at least the end of June.
      I knew it was a percentage, just didn't have the exact number. That extra 5% must be a compromise for the hard slot. I like it though. Teams should be more concerned with development than when they will actually have to start paying a player... In theory at least. There will always be situations like the O's and Weiters where it is obvious and just stupid to deny the reason for not calling a guy up.
    1. kab21's Avatar
      kab21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Badsmerf View Post
      Correct... I think. The amount he would pitch in Sept this year wouldn't make as much of a difference as when the Twins call him up next year.
      The amount that you pitch does not matter. Super 2 and when you can become a FA depends entirely on the amount of service time (days on the MLB roster) that you have.

      But I thought it was already decided said that he was going to the AFL in September.
    1. diehardtwinsfan's Avatar
      diehardtwinsfan -
      Gibson said he's going to the AFL, so I'd assume that has been decided. That doesn't count towards service time though.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
      Gibson said he's going to the AFL, so I'd assume that has been decided. That doesn't count towards service time though.
      Yeah, I think it probably means we won't see him in Minnesota this Sept as they will still be cautious with his innings.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Yeah, I think it probably means we won't see him in Minnesota this Sept as they will still be cautious with his innings.
      I didn't really expect him to be in Minnesota this September anyway and I'm okay with that.
    1. 70charger's Avatar
      70charger -
      Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
      I didn't really expect him to be in Minnesota this September anyway and I'm okay with that.
      Yeah, I think September was overly ambitious anyway. At the very least, I'd expect to see him up next September. If all goes well, hopefully sooner.
    1. SweetOne69's Avatar
      SweetOne69 -
      Quote Originally Posted by 70charger View Post
      Yeah, I think September was overly ambitious anyway. At the very least, I'd expect to see him up next September. If all goes well, hopefully sooner.
      I expect to see him no later than May.
    1. East Coast Twin's Avatar
      East Coast Twin -
      According to La Velle Neal yesterday, Kyle is scheduled to pitch Sunday for Fort Myers and the Twins are hoping he can pitch in Rochester before the end of the season.

      http://www.startribune.com/sports/tw...165618926.html
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      This has been the plan all along, and it's amazing they have been able to stick to it. To this point, no setbacks. Hopefully that continues.
    1. Jeremy Nygaard's Avatar
      Jeremy Nygaard -
      Kyle Gibson was promoted (?) to the Fort Myers Miracle today. Unfortunately, it appears that their game has been cancelled. I believe Pavano was scheduled to start and Gibson was going to follow, though I may have that wrong.
    1. shs_59's Avatar
      shs_59 -
      Anibal Sanchez, Nick Blackburn, Scott Diamond, Scott Baker, Kyle Gibson, Liam Hendriks.

      those are the front 6. in 2013 for me.
    1. Badsmerf's Avatar
      Badsmerf -
      Blackburn will start in the rotation in place of Baker or Gibson, and be DFA by June.
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