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  • Twins vs. Tigers, 07/05/2012, 12:05pm

    Well, it happened. The Twins winning streak was ended last night by a another strong pitching performance from Justin Verlander. Defeated 5-1, the Twins look to take three of four in Detroit against Tiger lefty Rick Porcello. To count, the Twins send Scott Diamond to the mound.

    If the Twins can win a four game set in Detroit, they'd have to be pretty pleased with themselves. The Tigers were the pre-season favorites to win the division and the the middle of their offense looks terrifying. What do you expect from Diamond tonight? If the Twins win, are they "back in this thing"?

    Scott Diamond

    W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 7 3 2.63 11 11 0 0 72.0 76 27 21 8 4 11 1 41 .271 1.21 2.21
    MLB Totals 8 8 3.49 18 18 0 0 111.0 127 52 43 11 4 28 4 60 .288 1.40 1.66

    Rick Porcello

    W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HB BB IBB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO
    SEASON 6 5 4.35 16 16 0 0 93.0 116 51 45 8 4 23 2 57 .304 1.49 1.54
    MLB Totals 44 35 4.51 105 105 0 0 608.1 690 331 305 67 22 159 5 334 .286 1.40 1.57

    Twins Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Mauer, J MIN C 73 269 42 88 18 1 5 38 40 41 4 1 .327 .415 .457 .872
    2 Revere, B MIN RF 47 190 25 61 6 2 0 11 9 14 16 4 .321 .351 .374 .725
    3 Doumit, R MIN C 64 219 23 61 13 1 7 36 21 46 0 0 .279 .340 .443 .783
    4 Span, D MIN CF 75 300 39 82 20 2 3 22 31 39 9 3 .273 .341 .383 .725
    5 Willingham, J MIN LF 78 279 45 75 21 1 18 59 40 77 2 1 .269 .380 .545 .924
    6 Plouffe, T MIN RF 62 212 37 53 10 0 19 35 24 50 0 2 .250 .328 .566 .894
    7 Butera, D MIN C 22 58 4 14 5 0 1 4 4 13 0 0 .241 .302 .379 .681
    7 Carroll, J MIN SS 77 261 32 63 9 1 0 25 31 34 6 3 .241 .325 .284 .609
    9 Casilla, A MIN 2B 57 171 16 41 10 1 0 14 9 33 10 1 .240 .277 .310 .587
    10 Morneau, J MIN 1B 61 235 26 56 14 1 10 35 22 51 1 0 .238 .307 .434 .741
    11 Dozier, B MIN SS 51 196 20 46 8 1 3 20 8 38 4 2 .235 .262 .332 .594
    12 Mastroianni, D MIN LF 29 59 8 13 1 1 1 8 8 12 5 0 .220 .313 .322 .635
    13 Komatsu, E MIN RF 15 32 2 7 0 0 0 1 4 3 0 0 .219 .297 .219 .516
    14 Hughes, L MIN 2B 4 10 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 4 1 0 .200 .182 .200 .382
    15 Parmelee, C MIN 1B 38 103 9 20 5 1 2 5 9 27 0 0 .194 .278 .320 .599
    16 Valencia, D MIN 3B 27 100 9 19 5 1 1 11 2 23 0 1 .190 .204 .290 .494
    17 Diamond, S MIN P 3 7 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 .143 .143 .143 .286
    17 Thomas, C MIN RF 12 28 2 4 1 0 1 4 0 16 0 0 .143 .172 .286 .458
    19 Burroughs, S MIN 3B 10 17 0 2 1 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 .118 .167 .176 .343

    Tigers Offense
    RK Player Team Pos G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    1 Perez, H DET 2B 2 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500 .500 .500 1.000
    2 Jackson, A DET CF 60 234 49 77 16 4 9 37 32 59 7 2 .329 .410 .547 .957
    3 Dirks, A DET LF 37 134 24 44 9 2 4 16 9 18 1 0 .328 .379 .515 .894
    4 Cabrera, M DET 3B 82 328 50 106 25 0 18 68 32 47 3 1 .323 .385 .564 .949
    5 Holaday, B DET C 4 10 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .300 .300 .400 .700
    6 Fielder, P DET 1B 82 308 44 92 19 1 12 55 36 43 1 0 .299 .377 .484 .861
    7 Berry, Q DET CF 38 132 26 39 4 3 1 13 16 38 12 0 .295 .388 .394 .782
    8 Laird, G DET C 34 92 13 27 4 0 2 5 7 10 0 0 .293 .347 .402 .749
    9 Young, D DET LF 74 285 22 75 14 0 6 31 8 58 0 1 .263 .290 .375 .665
    10 Peralta, J DET SS 73 253 25 65 16 2 4 24 27 48 1 1 .257 .331 .383 .714
    11 Avila, A DET C 56 186 22 46 10 1 5 23 24 51 2 0 .247 .330 .392 .723
    12 Boesch, B DET LF 77 293 34 70 12 0 8 30 12 57 3 2 .239 .274 .362 .636
    13 Santiago, R DET 2B 64 160 15 36 5 1 2 17 13 24 1 0 .225 .302 .306 .608
    14 Eldred, B DET DH 5 16 1 3 1 1 0 1 1 6 0 0 .188 .235 .375 .610
    15 Kelly, D DET LF 47 91 11 17 1 1 1 7 13 15 1 0 .187 .288 .253 .541
    16 Worth, D DET 2B 30 55 4 10 1 0 0 2 7 19 0 0 .182 .270 .200 .470
    17 Raburn, R DET 2B 51 165 12 29 10 0 1 10 10 44 1 1 .176 .230 .255 .485
    18 Santos, O DET C 3 8 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 .125 .111 .125 .236
    19 Inge, B DET 2B 9 20 2 2 1 0 1 2 0 6 0 0 .100 .100 .300 .400
    19 Young, M DET LF 5 10 2 1 1 0 0 1 0 9 0 0 .100 .182 .200 .382
    Comments 129 Comments
    1. Westgaard66's Avatar
      Westgaard66 -
      This game hurt to watch.
      3 runs lost at the plate
      The stupid squeeze play bothers me. Everyone saw it coming.
      Why pull diamond?
    1. GCTF's Avatar
      GCTF -
      Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
      you can't pitch your "closer" before the 9th inning, blasphemer.


      And why would you want your best relievers facing the top/middle of order when they could face the bottom in the next inning?
      moty
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by GCTF View Post
      moty
      MotC
    1. nokomismod's Avatar
      nokomismod -
      Quote Originally Posted by Westgaard66 View Post
      This game hurt to watch.
      3 runs lost at the plate
      The stupid squeeze play bothers me. Everyone saw it coming.
      Why pull diamond?
      I didn't see the need to Squeeze there either. Dotel is not a dominant pitcher anymore, and Carrol or Span could have made contact.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by nokomismod View Post
      Dotel is not a dominant pitcher anymore, and Carrol or Span could have made contact.
      13 k/9

      5 k/bb


      Nope, not dominant at all.
    1. mikeee's Avatar
      mikeee -
      that was a bummer of a loss.
    1. nokomismod's Avatar
      nokomismod -
      Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
      13 k/9

      5 k/bb


      Nope, not dominant at all.
      I stand corrected! Just from watching him the past couple of games against the Twins I never would have guessed that. Thank you for pointing that out.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      I admit to not realizing how good those figures were until I looked them up.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
      You can't pitch your "closer" before the 9th inning, blasphemer.


      And why would you want your best relievers facing the top/middle of order when they could face the bottom in the next inning?
      Gawd I love this post....makes a great point, and is just oozing sarcasm.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Gardy just said in the postgame that Perkins was not available today, fwiw.
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
      You can't pitch your "closer" before the 9th inning, blasphemer.


      And why would you want your best relievers facing the top/middle of order when they could face the bottom in the next inning?

      Haha! Ulgh, this also makes me feel a little sick. Gardy was going with his "heart" again.
    1. glunn's Avatar
      glunn -
      I think that I will erase this game from my DVR without watching it.
    1. one_eyed_jack's Avatar
      one_eyed_jack -
      I've gotta think it's pretty rare for a team to get 6 hits with RISP and only score 3 runs.

      What a frustrating day.

      I could be wrong about this, but it sure seems like one of the many problems this team as had this year is the way it consistently squanders chances for big innings that would put them comfortably ahead. Today was another game we had a chance to jump out to a big lead and didn't.

      Even in a lot of our wins (and we have more 1-run wins than anyone else in the AL), I feel like there have been a lot of blown chances to bust games open, and they ended up being nail-biters. Maybe the bullpen could have been conserved a bit better had we been up 5 instead of up 1 going into the 9th in some of those games.

      Perhaps the Twins stastistically really aren't much worse than anyone else in this area, but I sure feel like I've watched a lot of innings where the Twins walked away with 1 run when they could, and probably should, have had at least 3.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
      I think that I will erase this game from my DVR without watching it.
      You should at least check out the comedic highlights.
    1. jctwins's Avatar
      jctwins -
      On the bright side, 115 posts for a day game.
    1. stringer bell's Avatar
      stringer bell -
      Well, Gardy wasn't going to use Perkins, so that kinda forced it to be Burnett/Robertson. Perhaps he could have gone with Burton for Miggy/Prince. but I doubt he would want to bring Burton back for the ninth with a lead or tied.

      The Twins narrative is now to finger starting pitchers for all of this--fraying the bullpen and limiting the managers options--there is some truth to this but the off field staff has to take the blame for having a dreadful starting rotation.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jctwins View Post
      On the bright side, 115 posts for a day game.
      Half of them me being an ass.
    1. USAFChief's Avatar
      USAFChief -
      Worst loss of the year?

      Granted, there are a lot to choose from.

      I think Gardy's hands were a bit tied regarding the bullpen situation. Not sure why you pull Diamond, but I'll defer judgement on that. More proof that the soft underbelly of a bullpen is going to get exposed over the course of a season. You can't just have 2 or 3 reliable relievers and expect them to take all the high leverage innings.
    1. stringer bell's Avatar
      stringer bell -
      Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
      Worst loss of the year?

      Granted, there are a lot to choose from.

      I think Gardy's hands were a bit tied regarding the bullpen situation. Not sure why you pull Diamond, but I'll defer judgement on that. More proof that the soft underbelly of a bullpen is going to get exposed over the course of a season. You can't just have 2 or 3 reliable relievers and expect them to take all the high leverage innings.
      Bullpens don't get easily exposed if you have two or three guys who work 180-200 innings. Gardenhire mentioned the heat in regard to taking Diamond out--don't know if that is excuse making 101.
    1. stringer bell's Avatar
      stringer bell -
      Quote Originally Posted by one_eyed_jack View Post
      I've gotta think it's pretty rare for a team to get 6 hits with RISP and only score 3 runs.

      What a frustrating day.

      I could be wrong about this, but it sure seems like one of the many problems this team as had this year is the way it consistently squanders chances for big innings that would put them comfortably ahead. Today was another game we had a chance to jump out to a big lead and didn't.

      Even in a lot of our wins (and we have more 1-run wins than anyone else in the AL), I feel like there have been a lot of blown chances to bust games open, and they ended up being nail-biters. Maybe the bullpen could have been conserved a bit better had we been up 5 instead of up 1 going into the 9th in some of those games.

      Perhaps the Twins stastistically really aren't much worse than anyone else in this area, but I sure feel like I've watched a lot of innings where the Twins walked away with 1 run when they could, and probably should, have had at least 3.
      Pretty much agree Jack. Sometimes an infield hit isn't as good as getting one to the outfield. It also hurts that the Twins have hitters that are played shallow at least in their off field (Span's single in which Dozier was thrown out).
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