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    Monday was a pretty busy day for it being just a regular Monday in late June. The Twins left Texas on Sunday knowing that both 3B Trevor Plouffe and SS Eduardo Nunez were ready to be activated from the DL, yet no move was made after last night's game. And, from the sounds of it, all 25 guys in Texas took the plane back to Minneapolis.

    Monday afternoon, though, the Twins announced that, to make room for Plouffe and Nunez, SS Pedro Florimon (to Rochester) and SS Jorge Polanco (to Ft. Myers) would be optioned to the minor leagues.

    The Miracle made room for Polanco by sending 2B Rafael Valera back to the GCL and also announced that LP Brett Lee would be activated with SS Aderling Mejia being placed on the DL.

    Rochester had two spots available. One of those was filled with Florimon. The other with the activation of OF Wilkin Ramirez.

    Let's move down to the farm:

    RED WINGS REPORT
    Rochester 8, Norfolk 1
    Box Score

    Doug Bernier hit a fifth inning grand slam and Deibinson Romero backed that up with a seventh inning three-run blast. Both long balls followed up a Chris Colabello solo shot in the fourth. Romero and Chris Herrmann had doubles, while Bernier, Colabello and Danny Ortiz (in addition to Romero) all had two-hit games.

    Scott Diamond struck out three in six innings that saw him allow only four men to reach (three hits, one walk) and the one run that he allowed helped lower his season ERA to 6.56. Lester Oliveros and Deolis Guerra closed the game out with three scoreless innings.

    The Red Wings are five games behind Syracuse, despite winning their last two.

    ROCK CATS REVIEW
    New Britain 3, Binghamton 8
    Box Score

    Reynaldo Rodriguez hit a pair of solo home runs and Kyle Knudson added an RBI double to complete the scoring for the Rock Cats. Aaron Hicks was 1-for-3 with a walk, but was picked off stealing. Eddie Rosario was 0-for-4 with two strikeouts.

    Taylor Rogers pitched 6 2/3 innings, allowing four runs on six hits and two walks. He struck out three. Adrian Salcedo gave up four hits in recording four outs. He also allowed two runs (one earned). He struck out three. Jim Fuller gave up a walk and home run in his one inning of work. He also struck out three.

    MIRACLE MATTERS
    Ft. Myers 10, Palm Beach 6
    Box Score

    Jorge Polanco came back and was dialed in. He went 3-for-4 with a double. He also walked once. The bottom third of the lineup (Travis Harrison, Stuart Turner, Max Kepler) provided two hits apiece and four total RBI. Nate Roberts, Mike Gonzales and Dalton Hicks all added doubles. It should be noted that Roberts doubled in the first inning, but was replaced at DH by Gonzales in the third inning.

    DJ Baxendale allowed two home runs and six runs total in four innings. He struck out two and walked none. Eight hits, though? Too much. Brett Lee, fresh off of the DL, picked up his 6th win, this one in relief. He allowed one hit in three innings. He struck out two and should re-gain his spot in the rotation. Steven Gruver (K, BB) and Brandon Peterson (2 K, H) each pitched an inning to shut it down.

    KERNELS NUGGETS
    Cedar Rapids vs Clinton (Suspended after 9th inning, tied at 3)
    Box Score

    This game will get due coverage when it finishes, but we should talk about Kohl Stewart. He only lasted four innings, giving up two runs on four hits. He walked two and struck out two. Eyewitness reports had him as throwing "way too many pitches" and, frankly, "not very good".

    The real news of this game is the storm that hit the stadium hard. Video is courtesy of Jeff Johnson, who covers the Kernels for the Cedar Rapids Gazette.


    Kernels Wind Tarp




    view on site

    E-TWINS E-NOTES
    Elizabethton 8, Bristol 5
    Box Score (Game 1)

    Trey Vavra had three hits including a double and a stolen base. Dutch Deol (two hits, two RBI) and Tanner English (two hits, two RBI) also had stand-out offensive performances. The star, though, was Max Murphy, who was 2-for-3 with a HR. He also walked twice. Pat Kelly stole two bases. Nick Gordon was 0-for-4, but drove in a run.

    Derrick Penilla pitched an inning yesterday before the game was suspended. Josue Montanez struck out three in two innings, but gave up two runs on four hits. Keaton Steele gave up a run on three hits in three innings. Kuo Hua Lo gave up two runs in two innings. Jake Reed picked up the save, his second, with a strikeout in an inning.

    Elizabethton 12, Bristol 1
    Box Score (Game 2)

    Well, E-town erupted for nine first-inning runs in game 2 and never looked back. Again, Max Murphy got it done: 3-for-4, 2B, 2 3B, 3 RBI. Tanner English and Austin Diemer each had three hits and a double. Jonatan Hinojosa had a two-hit game. The team combined for 16 hits.

    Michael Cederoth pitched 3 2/3 innings. He struck out six, walked one and allowed two hits that resulted in one run. Sam Clay got the win with two innings of one-hit, one-walk, three-strikeout ball. C.K. Irby got the final four outs.

    GCL TWINS TAKES
    GCL Twins 3, GCL Rays 8
    Box Score

    Logan Wade and Amaurys Minier both had two hits including a double each. Rainis Silva added a triple. Silva's two RBI and Minier's RBI accounted for all three runs.

    Michael Theofanopoulus took the loss. He allowed six runs (five earned) in 1 1/3 innings. He struck out one and gave up six hits. Wilfredy Liranzo pitched the next 3 2/3 scoreless innings. He struck out five and allowed only three hits and a walk. Zach Hayden and Seth Wagner put up scoreless frames. Eduardo Del Rosario gave up two runs (one earned) in two innings.

    TWINS DAILY MINOR LEAGUE PLAYERS OF THE DAY
    Hitter - Max Murphy, Elizabethton Twins (Nominated for "Best Daily Performance of the Year")
    Pitcher - Scott Diamond, Rochester Red Wings

    TUESDAY’S PROBABLE STARTERS
    Rochester vs Norfolk (12:05pm CT) – Kris Johnson (Listen)
    New Britain vs Binghamton (6:05pm CT) – Jason Wheeler (Listen)
    Ft Myers @ Bradenton (5:30pm CT) - TBD (Listen)
    Cedar Rapids @ Wisconsin (7:05pm CT) – Aaron Slegers (Listen)
    Elizabethton @ Johnson City (6:00pm CT) – TBD (Listen)
    GCL Twins @ GCL Rays (11:00am CST) – TBD

    The Twins lost to the Royals on Monday, so Papa John's Pizza is available at full menu price.
    Comments 18 Comments
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      I really hope there is nothing wrong with Roberts. If he had already had one full injury-free year in the last few, he would potentially be in the Twins OF right now. Injury free and he would have been a top 10 prospect.
    1. TRex's Avatar
      TRex -
      While I love Roberts as a prospect, I think projecting him as a top-10 kind of guy is a little ambitious. He is the anti-ABWII in that he has never been 'young' for the league and almost ALL of his value is tied up in a skill that will not necessarily translate at the MLB level. In addition, he brings even less defensive value than ABWII, and has played DH for over half of his games each year.

      Hopefully this doesn't come across as ripping Roberts, and set of a firestorm of controversy, because I am definitely rooting for Nate. I guess I should add that these thoughts are for MY top-10 list (and what I would guess for a BA-type list), but Nate Roberts could obviously be top-10 on your list.
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      Interesting title to the thread. I hope that Murphy's effort is now without question as he could be a steal in the 9th round. This is what Jim Callis had to say about him predraft:

      "The problem guys have with him is that he plays beneath the tools a little bit. People don't love the approach and wonder about the bat. But he has the tools to do some things."
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      I agree, T Rex. Roberts is far from a Top 10 guy, but his on-base skills are terrific. However, he's not fast (and 2+ knee surgeries later, even less so). He's not good in the outfield and doesn't have a good arm. And, frankly, he gets hit by so many pitches, and I don't know if that fraction of the OBP is something that can or would just continue as he moves up.

      That said, he's a terrific top of order guy.
    1. oldguy10's Avatar
      oldguy10 -
      Seth, surely you jest concerning Roberts. Great top of the order guy to be sure but at what low rung classification, certainly not at the MLB level. Why is a player of his low potential even being discussed anyway? Let's talk about real prospects here please not suspects.
    1. Jeremy Nygaard's Avatar
      Jeremy Nygaard -
      This is the only reason people talk about Roberts.

      And by "only" I mean "besides his mustache" (also pictured twice in the link).
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by oldguy10 View Post
      Seth, surely you jest concerning Roberts. Great top of the order guy to be sure but at what low rung classification, certainly not at the MLB level. Why is a player of his low potential even being discussed anyway? Let's talk about real prospects here please not suspects.
      Because we discuss everybody here, not just the perceived top prospects.
    1. oldguy10's Avatar
      oldguy10 -
      How do the majority of posters think about who and who should not be discussed in terms of "prospects"? I'd like to see some sort of consensus on this topic.
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      A concensus? There's not a concensus about anything around here. Even if you mean to say majority and not concensus, would that mean that the hypothetical populist opinion should prohibit the rest of from from hearing about the non-top prospects?

      Even if you got people to agree with you, who sits on the committee to determine the "prospect" cut off line? Do we only talk about Buxton and Sano? If we did, this thread would be done while they rehab. The top ten prospects? We wouldn't be talking about Trevor May then. Top 20? We couldn't talk about Kennys Vargas. What about the draft picks? Can they even be ranked? No need to discuss Gordon, Burdi or Cederoth I guess.

      This is one of the most popular threads. If you don't like reading about the human interst stuff about the guys who likely will never get a chance to play at the MLB level, you could probably just type Buxton, Sano, Meyer, Stewart, Rosario and Barrios into your browser's "find on this page" search tool and skip to the good parts.
    1. Jeremy Nygaard's Avatar
      Jeremy Nygaard -
      Quote Originally Posted by oldguy10 View Post
      How do the majority of posters think about who and who should not be discussed in terms of "prospects"? I'd like to see some sort of consensus on this topic.
      I talked to someone within the organization about something similar to this. What he said to me was something like this:

      "Everybody's a prospect. It's easy to look at a guy and said, 'He can't do this. He can't do that'. We don't do that. We want to see what the guys do well and figure out how that can help the organization."

      Now granted, for a lot of guys what they can do is spend their time in AA (or high-A) or wherever and move up or down a level as needed. Organizational-type guys.

      I think I get what you're looking for... some sort of grading system that would place a guy in a group: Potential All-Star, Potential Starter, Backup-type, AAAA, Organization-filler.... or something like that.

      I'd be curious if someone wanted to go through the organization and rate the players. That's just not something I have time for...

      As far as the minor-league reports go, you'll continue to get to read about everybody (and I don't think you have an issue with that), we like to give guys the recognition for something they don't get a lot of recognition doing.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by oldguy10 View Post
      How do the majority of posters think about who and who should not be discussed in terms of "prospects"? I'd like to see some sort of consensus on this topic.
      Fair enough... what do people think? Options:

      1.) The rule would be the we can write about and comment about anyone we want, anyone in the Twins system.
      2.) The rule would be that we can only write about and discuss the top 10 or 15 or (certain number) prospects?

      Vote away...
    1. SD Buhr's Avatar
      SD Buhr -
      Giving some thoughtful consideration to my vote.

      On the one hand, I enjoy reading about all the minor leaguers regardless of prospect status because they are hard working young men and each have a story behind them I enjoy finding out about.

      On the other hand, if we limit things to the top 15 or so prospects, I can just file 2-3 Kernels stories per season instead of writing something every week. Less work for me.

      Edit: At exactly the same pay, I might add!
    1. diehardtwinsfan's Avatar
      diehardtwinsfan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
      Fair enough... what do people think? Options:

      1.) The rule would be the we can write about and comment about anyone we want, anyone in the Twins system.
      2.) The rule would be that we can only write about and discuss the top 10 or 15 or (certain number) prospects?

      Vote away...
      This is your site Seth

      That said, I may not personally be too interested in Nate Roberts, but I like reading about these guys. If you are talking about someone I don't care about, I just skip it.... Not too hard, but guys like Roberts can suddenly click on something and become decent players. Dozier was a great example of that a few years back.

      There should be no rule limiting who we talk about. This forum would be a lot less populated if we did.
    1. Jeremy Nygaard's Avatar
      Jeremy Nygaard -
      ...and we definitely wouldn't have been talking about Josmil Pinto, well... ever.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      Talk about whomever you want.....if people want to know about one person, they can to to the adopt a prospect pages, or to milb.com or whatever.

      That said, I would like more updates on "key" prospects every day....so, everyday, I'd like to know how Rosario or Pinto did, for example, in these writeups.

      that said, that's just what I want, others may not, and the authors aren't exactly compensated for this work, so they should do what they want.
    1. Mr. Brooks's Avatar
      Mr. Brooks -
      It's Twins Minor League Talk, not Twins Prospect Talk.
      I think that is an important distinction. I like reading about how the guys on the farm did, even when it's guys that will never contribute to the big club.
    1. Celebrity Weddings!'s Avatar
      Celebrity Weddings! -
      I'm not sure what resource we're exhausting talking about Nate Roberts. There is no "instead" in play when it comes to idle baseball chitchat.
    1. SD Buhr's Avatar
      SD Buhr -
      Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
      That said, I would like more updates on "key" prospects every day....so, everyday, I'd like to know how Rosario or Pinto did, for example, in these writeups.
      I kind of felt the same way, but since the link to the box scores have been included, if I'm curious about someone not mentioned specifically, some basic stats about his performance in the game are available. That's been very helpful, I feel.
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