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  • Minnesota Twins Roster Projection 3.0

    The Minnesota Twins made eight cuts on Sunday morning and their roster is now at forty players. Some of the moves certainly make some of the opening day roster choices more clear, but there are still several questions that need to be answered.

    Here is my third version of a Twins Opening Day roster projection. It is based on the players currently on the roster, though I do expect the Twins to make a trade before opening day gets here.


    As a reminder, the players in red are those that I believe are givens to make the roster (obviously, pending no injury). Those in black are those whose spots on the roster are uncertain.

    Catchers (2): Kurt Suzuki, Chris Herrmann

    With Eric Fryer sent to minor league camp on Sunday, it means that Chris Herrmann and Josmil Pinto will be competing to back up Kurt Suzuki. They have indicated they want Pinto to be able to play most every day which makes Herrmann a pretty likely opening day roster guy.

    Infielders (5): Joe Mauer, Brian Dozier, Trevor Plouffe, Pedro Florimon, Eduardo Escobar, Chris Colabello

    The demotion of Danny Santana certainly indicates the club feels Pedro Florimon will be ready for opening day. The starters remain set, and Eduardo Escobar is a given (in my opinion). I have added Chris Colabello to the opening day roster because of his bat. If you believe the Twins need a big, powerful right-handed bat, then it has to be Chris Colabello.

    Outfielders (6): Josh Willingham, Aaron Hicks, Oswaldo Arcia, Alex Presley, Chris Parmelee, Jason Kubel

    Iíve changed things here too, but these are really a tough positions when it comes to predicting who will make it. Willingham is a given. Iíve actually altered my thinking and now think that Aaron Hicks will be the primary centerfielder which makes Alex Presley the backup. Oswaldo Arcia will likely be starting right fielder. I am less and less certain that Jason Kubel is a given at this point than I was a month ago and Parmelee/Colabello could take over DH duties. I still have Kubel on the roster though, for now.

    Starting Pitchers (5): Kevin Correia, Ricky Nolasco, Phil Hughes, Mike Pelfrey, Sam Deduno

    No change at the top of the starting pitching ranks. The top four will make it. Itís also becoming more and more clear that Sam Deduno is the favorite for the fifth starting job. Scott Diamond had a solid outing yesterday against the Mets B team, though he also walked three. The Twins were happy with the improvement Vance Worley made in his most recent outing. After a rough, long first inning on Friday, Kyle Gibson settled down. I do have Deduno as a given, though Iím not 100% certain he will be the fifth starter (only like 90%).

    Bullpen (7): Glen Perkins, Jared Burton, Brian Duensing, Casey Fien, Anthony Swarzak, Caleb Thielbar, Vance Worley

    Perkins signed his extension and heís a given. Fien and Swarzak are givens. There are rumblings that the Twins could deal a reliever or two by opening day, though obviously thatís a matter of two teams coming together and finding something that makes sense. I still think Caleb Thielbar is the front runner for the second lefty reliever, but I think the Twins really like Matt Hoffman, and Aaron Thompson as well. I think Vance Worley and Scott Diamond will compete over these final two weeks for one spot. That said, Michael Tonkin has been impressive as well so far in camp. If the Twins could deal maybe Burton and/or Duensing, Tonkin and Hoffman would get a shot.

    What are your thoughts? What does your roster look like with two weeks to go?
    Comments 82 Comments
    1. beckmt's Avatar
      beckmt -
      Do think the Twins will deal a reliever or one of the out of option starters and a reliever for either
      1. A decent prospect
      2. A player who could help the Twins now(either an outfielder or an utility type infielder with an outfielder as my best guess). Kubel will have to hit a lot more to make the team as he and Parmelee are competing for what looks to be one spot. Believe Arcia will be here, but he might be sent to Rochester so both Kubel and Parmelee can make the team(do not see why, but Twins have done things like this before).
      Agree with you Seth that Diamond looks to be the odd man out and may well be traded soon.
    1. Dave T's Avatar
      Dave T -
      I would really like the Twins to find a way to get Tonkin into this bullpen. Tonkin has been unhittable this spring. Vance Worley is meh.
    1. Kwak's Avatar
      Kwak -
      Face-saving trade(s) are just about a given. There are way too many recently acquired players than can be kept--especially when the younger, up-and-comers are added to the equation.
    1. Chance's Avatar
      Chance -
      I think Kubel is the odd man out do to versatility of Parm and Collabello.

      There are 12 pitchers listed here. That would mean that, unless a trade, this could be our pitchers. I personally would let Diamond and Worley go. If a pitcher goes down, we still have plenty of good choices in AAA. Then Tonkin can be given a shot.
    1. DocBauer's Avatar
      DocBauer -
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave T View Post
      I would really like the Twins to find a way to get Tonkin into this bullpen. Tonkin has been unhittable this spring. Vance Worley is meh.
      Agreed. Not saying Worley IS a failed option at this point, but I've also not seen anything to indicate he's going to work and worth keeping for any kind of role either. I appreciate arguments made how it would be a mistake to let someone go who is still young and has potential. But at the same time, I don't want the team to keep a failed roster choice over another talented youngster just for the sake of a maybe; ex. Worley over Tonkin for a bullpen spot.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      I wouldn't call Diamond's outing yesterday "solid". He was overthrowing everything. His fastball was up. His breaking ball was consistently in the dirt. He was saved by the opposition--the Mets' B team--who swung at his stuff out of the strike zone a lot. But he did't get enough called strikes, and he threw a lot of pitches in four innings. If that was a regular-season game against a normal line-up, he's out after three with a six-run deficit.
    1. lukingood's Avatar
      lukingood -
      Colabello has to be kept. The Twins need a credible right-hand bat. While I liked Danny Santana's bat, he simply does not yet have the major-league composure to play shortstop. As to Kubel or Parmelee, Parmelee makes more sense in that he plays both a decent right field and first base. Kubel is primarily relegated to DH or pinch hitting.
    1. Old Twins Cap's Avatar
      Old Twins Cap -
      Give up on Kubel, nostalgia for the past does not do anything for a MLB roster. Worley and Diamond, who would even want either of them? We have got a ton of Diamond-like lefties sitting around the minors. What's the concern about letting him go?

      But, pitching will not be the biggest problem for the Twins this year. It's the offense. They will have trouble scoring runs and are caught between not being a running team and not being a power team. They must keep Colabello, hope Willingham hits and then get some of the little guys to have good years by getting on base. Like last year, if either Parmelee or Plouffe ever came around and realized his potential, they would be a decent squad. As it stands, they will battle for last place in the Central yet again.
    1. Hosken Bombo Disco's Avatar
      Hosken Bombo Disco -
      Thanks for update. I think they really want to give Guerrier a long look now, and I don't know how you (the Twins, that is) leave Tonkin behind anymore - definitely agree. If ST is any sort of tryout and not a complete formality, then Colabello seems like a lock at this point. If Florimon is so far behind like has been written, then that's also a real issue. Too bad about Santana's glove and the baseballs that routinely pop out of it.
    1. longstrangetrip's Avatar
      longstrangetrip -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
      I wouldn't call Diamond's outing yesterday "solid". He was overthrowing everything. His fastball was up. His breaking ball was consistently in the dirt. He was saved by the opposition--the Mets' B team--who swung at his stuff out of the strike zone a lot. But he did't get enough called strikes, and he threw a lot of pitches in four innings. If that was a regular-season game against a normal line-up, he's out after three with a six-run deficit.
      I agree with you, and am becoming increasingly concerned that a case is being made to install Diamond as the 5th starter, and relegate Deduno to the bullpen. I think this would be a mistake. But Gardy and Anderson are traditionalists, and traditional baseball thought says you need at least one lefty in your rotation. I don't agree, and kind of hope Diamond gets shelled his next start to force them to put Deduno in the rotation. I think he's poised for a big year.
    1. ppearson50's Avatar
      ppearson50 -
      Quote Originally Posted by lukingood View Post
      Colabello has to be kept. The Twins need a credible right-hand bat. While I liked Danny Santana's bat, he simply does not yet have the major-league composure to play shortstop. As to Kubel or Parmelee, Parmelee makes more sense in that he plays both a decent right field and first base. Kubel is primarily relegated to DH or pinch hitting.
      I think there is a shot Kubel makes the team just because of his contract and the fact that the Twins talked him into taking a minor league deal with them rather than a MLB deal with whatever other team was trying to sign him. Sounds to me they assured him he would make them team to get him to sign with them.
      That being said, I also would rather they roll with Parmalee and Colabello.
    1. Brandon's Avatar
      Brandon -
      Looks like the big battles remaining is will Kubel show enough to make the team and who will win the last 2 bullpen spots as there seems to be 6 or 7 contenders for those 2 spots (Pressley, Theilbar, Tonkin, Worely, Guerrier, Hoffman, Thompson and kind of Diamond)
    1. whosafraidofluigirussolo's Avatar
      whosafraidofluigirussolo -
      I count 26 players on this projected roster. You have six infielders listed although it says '5' in the parentheses.
      You'd more likely remove one of the outfielders from this list than remove an infielder to get down to 25, I think...?
    1. jorgenswest's Avatar
      jorgenswest -
      Quote Originally Posted by beckmt View Post
      Do think the Twins will deal a reliever or one of the out of option starters and a reliever for either
      1. A decent prospect
      2. A player who could help the Twins now(either an outfielder or an utility type infielder with an outfielder as my best guess). Kubel will have to hit a lot more to make the team as he and Parmelee are competing for what looks to be one spot. Believe Arcia will be here, but he might be sent to Rochester so both Kubel and Parmelee can make the team(do not see why, but Twins have done things like this before).
      Agree with you Seth that Diamond looks to be the odd man out and may well be traded soon.
      It is very rare to make a trade to get a real prospect at this time of year. I didn't find one the last 5 years. All teams feel the crunch of the roster spots. If they have a need on the pitching staff or on the bench, there will be players designated for assignment that can fill that need.

      There are some trades. The Twins might be able to match up with a team that has a 4th OF or utility player that would otherwise be designated for assignment in exchange for Worley or Diamond.

      It it isn't reasonable to expect a decent prospect.

      Any speculation should start with players on other teams in a similar position to Worley, Diamond and Parmelee.
    1. Outlier's Avatar
      Outlier -
      I've felt all along that Pinto has a better chance to make the roster than it seems you have. Perhaps I'm just a dreamer. It seems like he may be the best DH bat they have. He could DH 2-3 days and he could catch 2 days a week until they see the improvement they need. Pinto never caught every day in the minors (<60%) so I wonder if they would ease him into the role and do work with Steinbach and be mentored by Suzuki rather than send him to the minors.
    1. BigTrane's Avatar
      BigTrane -
      I'm a long-time supporter of Deduno, and he is in the zone right now- so glad to see it.
      Same with Tonkin- get these arms in the mix; Deduno @ #5; stash Tonkin in the pen for the time being. Colabello has found his stroke, so get him on the bench.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Outlier View Post
      I've felt all along that Pinto has a better chance to make the roster than it seems you have. Perhaps I'm just a dreamer. It seems like he may be the best DH bat they have. He could DH 2-3 days and he could catch 2 days a week until they see the improvement they need. Pinto never caught every day in the minors (<60%) so I wonder if they would ease him into the role and do work with Steinbach and be mentored by Suzuki rather than send him to the minors.
      With regards to Pinto, Gardy is already adamantly on the record this spring stating that Pinto will definitely not be DHing.

      His reasoning? It just gives him nightmares thinking about the chances that a pitcher might have to bat once or twice in 5000 PAs.
    1. Hawkeye12's Avatar
      Hawkeye12 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      With regards to Pinto, Gardy is already adamantly on the record this spring stating that Pinto will definitely not be DHing.

      His reasoning? It just gives him nightmares thinking about the chances that a pitcher might have to bat once or twice in 5000 PAs.
      I don't think they'd choose Pinto as the right handed DH ahead of Colabello at this point, but Gardy said they'd need a third catcher for Pinto to DH. Sending Fryer down already and keeping Hermann up could be a sign that they want to carry three. I'm guessing Colabello makes it for sure, and Kubel has looked pretty terrible, but Hermann could be in the mix with Kubel and Parmalee for that last spot if they want to keep Pinto also.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye12 View Post
      I don't think they'd choose Pinto as the right handed DH ahead of Colabello at this point, but Gardy said they'd need a third catcher for Pinto to DH. Sending Fryer down already and keeping Hermann up could be a sign that they want to carry three. I'm guessing Colabello makes it for sure, and Kubel has looked pretty terrible, but Hermann could be in the mix with Kubel and Parmalee for that last spot if they want to keep Pinto also.
      Ugh. Even Gardy has seemed to have learned his lesson on the harm to the offense that the 3 catcher security blanket scenario does to the team.

      I'd take Parmelee's bat over what Hermann can potentially contribute (Kubel?). And with Escobar as your emergency catcher, Hermann or Fryer are a one-day flight away from Rochester to take the back-up spot in the event of an injury.
    1. jmlease1's Avatar
      jmlease1 -
      I would prefer to have Pinto be on the MLB roster and catching at least 50% of the time, but I think the team feels he needs more working on his catching skills and will want him catching every day in the minors. It's not the worst idea, but I think it will hurt the offense, and offense is where the team probably needs the most help right now. Love seeing Hicks as the primary CF and Presley as the 4th guy (who will play a lot late-game in one of the corners anyways, I suspect).

      The last 2 spots are starting to look like they're coming down to Kubel, Parmelee, and Colabello. Kubel's experience makes him a better bet as a LH bench bat, but Parmelee's positional flexibility is a good thing. Colabello could be a nice RH bat and the balance would be good. I think Gardy would prefer the veteran Kubel to make the squad. I'd love to see Colabello & Parmelee hit well enough and earn the last 2 spots and be real contributors, but both have enough question marks that it's hard to have confidence in them.
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