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  • Twins and Pelfrey Agree to Deal

    According to Jon Heyman, The Minnesota Twins have reached an agreement with RHP Mike Pelfrey. He says that it is a two year deal at $11 million. It also includes incentives up to another $3.5 million.

    There have been reports for a month that the two sides were very close, and that the Twins had made an offer. On Saturday night, there was finally an agreement.

    Pelfrey went 5-13 with a 5.19 ERA and a 1.55 WHIP with the Twins in 2013. He had undergone Tommy John surgery in April of 2012 and returned quickly. He struggled early with the Twins, but he did show good velocity on his fastball.

    Last month, Parker wrote about why the Twins might have interest in bringing back the right-hander.

    The Twins have been busy in the free agent pitching market. Last month, they inked Ricky Nolasco to a four year, $49 million contract with an option for a fifth year. Days later, they agreed with Phil Hughes on a three year, $24 million deal.

    The Twins have Kevin Correia under contract for 2014 at $5.5 million. If the Twins do not sign any other starting pitchers or make any trades, Sam Deduno, Kyle Gibson, Andrew Albers, Kris Johnson, Scott Diamond, Vance Worley and Alex Meyer will be competing for the fifth starter job. (Deduno, Diamond and Worley will be out of options)

    There is no word yet on whether the Twins would still consider adding another starting pitcher as rumors surrounding Bronson Arroyo and Matt Garza have not subsided.
    Comments 127 Comments
    1. S.'s Avatar
      S. -
      "Mike Pelfrey agrees to 2-year deal, $11M, $3.5M performance bonuses. #twins"

      Ugh.



      https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/sta...10452659363840
    1. Reider's Avatar
      Reider -
      I know most people (including myself) would rather have Garza or Arroyo on a 2 year deal, but looking at the big picture, we have the same pitching staff as last year plus Nolasco and Hughes. Having those two extra starting pitchers should help take some pressure off of the bullpen. I'm not a big Pelfrey fan, but I'd rather give him the ball, than an AAA pitcher.

      Stability is good. These 3 guys (along with Correia and a healthy Deduno) should help stabilize the starting rotation and give the Twins something to build upon. They can always trade, sign, and develop pitchers over time.
    1. Chance's Avatar
      Chance -
      I'm not terribly upset by this, but I really don't get it.

      I could see Pelfrey coming in to compete with others for the 4/5 spot in the rotation, but he surely has not earned a roster spot. Money is irrelevant to me because I feel the Twins have it to spend, but you can't tell me that there aren't other pitchers available that are just as talented that could compete for a rotation spot. Or perhaps one that deserves a spot. Pelfrey should have had to prove he was better than Gibson, Worley, etc. before receiving a contract that stats he is a lock for the rotation.

      Underwhelming and mildly annoying move.
    1. JB_Iowa's Avatar
      JB_Iowa -
      Watching him pitch is cruel and unusual punishment.
    1. Legend of the Arctic's Avatar
      Legend of the Arctic -
      Not an exciting move, but not a bad one. Considering that the alternative was Bronson Arroyo, I'm very happy to see Pelfrey return.
    1. USAFChief's Avatar
      USAFChief -
      After starting out pretty nicely with Nolasco, Ryan has tailed off badly, IMO.
    1. B Richard's Avatar
      B Richard -
      This is a reasonable move. I'd much rather have Pelfrey at 2/11 than Colon at 2/20. Pitchers coming back from TJ are always questionable, but Pelfrey had a strong second half of the year. If you look at his overall numbers for the year, they are somewhat ugly, but the big Pelf showed marked improvement

      Per Fangraphs:

      1st Half/ 2nd Half (2013)

      K%: 12.4/17.7
      HR/9: .98/.51
      Avg. Against: .311/.279
      SLG: .478/.374

      The one area of concern lies in BB%: 6.6/9.2

      But his K:BB ratio still improved, albeit marginally: 1.88/1.93

      I think this signing is fine. Again, it's a sign (no pun intended) of an improving rotation. Pelf might not be here for our WS, but he will help this team improve in the immediate future by bringing stability to the rotation.
    1. VandyTwinsFan's Avatar
      VandyTwinsFan -
      Just a thought, but what if the team trades Correia? He looked pretty solid last year. Innings eater. While he has a place as a starter on this team, he might bring in some value in prospects. Just a thought.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      The only way this makes sense is if the Twins think he will be better two years removed from TJ surgery. It is a typical to have such an improvement. It's also common to have a long dead arm period the year after a huge jump in innings. So this is a big risk.

      But, as the saying goes, you can never have too much pitching. If he sucks, hopefully they give one of the other guys a chance, including Scott Diamond, whom you left off the list.
    1. Nor-CalTwinsfan's Avatar
      Nor-CalTwinsfan -
      Well, I think his pitching was better than his record, wonder if they are done. Still like to see a Johan rehab deal. who gets dropped to add him to the roster?
    1. Thrylos's Avatar
      Thrylos -
      Pelfrey was the Twins' best pitcher in 2013, in a season when he made a record time comeback from TJ surgery. Got his K% up to 17.9 in the second half of the season.

      From 2008-2011 he averaged 195.7 IP a season. He hasn't even turn 30 yet. Very similar pitcher to Hughes when healthy. I expect a lot from him the next 2 seasons.

      All in all a good signing. Not to mention that he is a great clubhouse guy too.
    1. gunnarthor's Avatar
      gunnarthor -
      It's not a bad deal. That's not a lot of money for a backend starter and it doesn't prevent the Twins from making moves next offseason, if they want.

      It probably means Gibson starts the season in AAA, which I'm against, but it looks like Ryan is getting some innings, if nothing else.
    1. Halsey Hall's Avatar
      Halsey Hall -
      I expected Pelfrey back, so no surprise. And I'm glad he is. Now with Deduno, we have a rotation. Now if TR can just get some bats, I'll be alot more enthused about this coming season.
    1. notoriousgod71's Avatar
      notoriousgod71 -
      Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
      After starting out pretty nicely with Nolasco, Ryan has tailed off badly, IMO.
      I don't even think Nolasco is that wonderful. Sure, he's a step above what we're used to but that isn't good enough to win. The money is getting thrown around but all I'm seeing are the same type of pitchers.
    1. Seth Stohs's Avatar
      Seth Stohs -
      Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
      I'm not terribly upset by this, but I really don't get it.

      I could see Pelfrey coming in to compete with others for the 4/5 spot in the rotation, but he surely has not earned a roster spot. Money is irrelevant to me because I feel the Twins have it to spend, but you can't tell me that there aren't other pitchers available that are just as talented that could compete for a rotation spot. Or perhaps one that deserves a spot. Pelfrey should have had to prove he was better than Gibson, Worley, etc. before receiving a contract that stats he is a lock for the rotation.

      Underwhelming and mildly annoying move.
      He just got 2 years and $11 million... he's in the rotation (at least at the start of the season).
    1. Monkeypaws's Avatar
      Monkeypaws -
      So many times last season Pelfrey would have a great start for 5 innings,then collapse. I hope that another year removed from TJ will reveal a solid sterter good to go deep in games.
    1. TKGuy's Avatar
      TKGuy -
      With this move and Meyer coming up, would the Twins consider moving Gibson for some offense? Since Gibson has options, he won't make the team out of Florida.
    1. S.'s Avatar
      S. -
      Quote Originally Posted by Halsey Hall View Post
      Now with Deduno, we have a rotation.
      Career numbers

      Nolasco: 4.37 ERA / 3.76 FIP / 3.75 xFIP
      Hughes: 4.54 ERA / 4.31 FIP / 4.31 xFIP
      Pelfrey: 4.48 ERA / 4.17 FIP / 4.50 xFIP
      Correia: 4.49 ERA / 4.50 FIP / 4.41 xFIP
      Deduno: 4.06 ERA / 4.67 FIP / 4.32 xFIP
    1. Willihammer's Avatar
      Willihammer -
      I'd have held out for 2/22 if I were him.
    1. TheLeviathan's Avatar
      TheLeviathan -
      The cost here is not only money but potentially another cost controlled starter. At this point we're handing a lot of starts to two guys who aren't that good and have no part in the future. I'd rather give those to Worley, Diamond, Gibson, or Deduno if its not going to be a true upgrade.

      hopefully a trade happens but I doubt that bunch has much value right now.
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