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    On Monday morning, the Minnesota Twins made several very telling roster decisions.The Twins optioned catcher Drew Butera. They also reassigned catcher Dan Rohlfing, infielders Ray Olmedo and Jeff Clement, and outfielder Brandon Boggs. The roster is now at 31. The news is good for outfielder Wilkin Ramirez.
    There is really just one more offensive, Opening Day roster spot that is up for grabs. Drew Butera had an option remaining, so he was sent to Rochester. This means that the Twins must be comfortable with Eduardo Escobar as an emergency catcher. More proof of that, the Twins also demoted Jeff Clement, who has not caught much in the last couple of years, but was drafted as a catcher. Dan Rohlfing was not going to make the roster, but he did have a very strong showing. Brandon Boggs was another possibility for the 25th man job.

    Earlier this morning, Ken Rosenthal tweeted that a lot of teams really would like Butera, but that the Twins prefer to stash him at Rochester for when needed.



    This basically means that Wilkin Ramirez will be the 25th man unless the Twins decide to go with 13 pitchers. Ramirez was once a prize prospect of the Detroit Tigers and has spent big league time with the Tigers and the Braves. He showed terrific power in Rochester last year and had a very strong big league camp. He will be the fifth outfielder, but primarily, he will be a pinch hitter.

    The moves really leave just a couple more roster decisions to be made. They are on the pitching side of things. There are 18 pitchers left in camp, but that includes Rafael Perez and Rich Harden, who have only pitched bullpens to this point. Tim Wood will begin on the Disabled List. Samuel Deduno also suffered a groin injury in the WBC championship game.

    We know that Glen Perkins, Jared Burton, Brian Duensing and Casey Fien are the givens. Rule 5 choice, Ryan Pressly, appears to be a lock as he has had a very good spring training. So, it really comes down to Alex Burnett, Tyler Robertson, Josh Roenicke and PJ Walters for two spots.

    Robertson would the the left-handed option, should they go that direction. He does have two options remaining. Alex Burnett really struggled this spring, and he has one option remaining. Josh Roenicke threw 80+ innings for the Rockies a year ago, and he is out of options. PJ Walters could be competing for the fifth starter job (unlikely) as well as a long-relief job, but he is on a minor league contract.

    Opening Day is one week away! We're getting close now!
    This article was originally published in blog: Roster Becomes Clearer With More Transactions started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 100 Comments
    1. SweetOne69's Avatar
      SweetOne69 -
      Seth, Where would the roster space on the 40-man for Ramirez come from?

      Will the DFA someone or will the take the temporary easy route and put Guerra on the 60 Day DL (Nevermind, I see this isn't an option since Guerra isn't on the 40-man anyway)?
    1. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
      Oldgoat_MN -
      Thank you Seth.
      I am really happy for Ramirez. Hope this works out for him and the Twins.

      Kind of wonder, though, how long they will keep Arcia down. Unless he uncharacteristically falters he is one of the best bats we have coming. Having Ramirez, a fifth OF, on the bench complicates things a bit.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      They can put Guerra on the 60-day DL, opening a spot on the 60-day DL for Ramirez. I think Walters hurt his chances yesterday pitching against major league hitters. Robertson really hurt his chances the other day. So I'd say it will be Reonicke and Burnett going north, with Robertson optioned and Walters reasigned.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      Doh, Meant to say They can put Guerra on the 60-day DL, opening a spot on the 40 mn for Ramirez.
    1. matthew0211's Avatar
      matthew0211 -
      They can't put Guerra on the 60-day DL, he's not on the 40-man roster. I think Pedro Hernandez would be a good bet to be outrighted to make room for Ramirez.
    1. raindog's Avatar
      raindog -
      Rejoice! I'm pleasantly surprised they sent Butera down.
    1. beckmt's Avatar
      beckmt -
      I think will all are happy the Butera went to Rochester. Best bet is they could outright a pitcher to Rochester, most of them are not that highly regarded anyway. Swarzak would be a candidate to be outrighted if healthy, but do not know the rules for pitchers on the DL.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      Huh, I didn't realize they had DFAed him. Well, I'd say Theilbar, then. Hernandez had a great spring and is needed for the Rochester rotation.
    1. jun's Avatar
      jun -
      Quote Originally Posted by SweetOne69 View Post
      Seth, Where would the roster space on the 40-man for Ramirez come from?

      Will the DFA someone or will the take the temporary easy route and put Guerra on the 60 Day DL (Nevermind, I see this isn't an option since Guerra isn't on the 40-man anyway)?
      I would like to see Florimon sent down to the minor and Hernandez be called up to get the last spot in the bullpen, PJ Walters and Petro Hernandez should be the last two for the bullpen spot. Robertson and Burnett are horrible, Roeniche is not good, Fien isn't that good either. When Deduno gets healthy, he should be the long reliever/6th starter. He could replace the worst pitcher in the bullpen.

      De Vries has earned the spot in the rotation.
    1. jun's Avatar
      jun -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
      They can put Guerra on the 60-day DL, opening a spot on the 60-day DL for Ramirez. I think Walters hurt his chances yesterday pitching against major league hitters. Robertson really hurt his chances the other day. So I'd say it will be Reonicke and Burnett going north, with Robertson optioned and Walters reasigned.
      Walters is still in good position, remember he had an ERA of 0 in 11 innings before the outing. Robertson is a lefty, he still has a chance. I really believe Hernandez should be the lefty in the bullpen other than Duensing and Perkins.
    1. ThePuck's Avatar
      ThePuck -
      I believe they want Hernandez to eventually be a MLB starter, do they not? If that's their plan, it's best he goes down and start instead of relief up here.
    1. ThePuck's Avatar
      ThePuck -
      Just an off the wall question. How long ago was it that MLB went to a 25 man roster, or has it always been that number?

      I ask because back in the day, we didn't have 5 man rotations, we didn't strictly adhere to pitch counts, we needed less of a relief corp, so we had more options off the bench....or so it seems. Shouldn't they think about adding to the active roster limit? One, maybe two more players?
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by ThePuck View Post
      Just an off the wall question. How long ago was it that MLB went to a 25 man roster, or has it always been that number?

      I ask because back in the day, we didn't have 5 man rotations, we didn't strictly adhere to pitch counts, we needed less of a relief corp, so we had more options off the bench....or so it seems. Shouldn't they think about adding to the active roster limit? One, maybe two more players?
      Actually, there was an 11 year period, ending in the late 60s, when teams could carry 28 players on their active roster for the first 30 days of the season, before 1957, clubs could theoretically carry up to 40 players for the first 30 days. And conversely, in the late 80s, clubs had the option of carrying only 24 players, if they so chose.
    1. stringer bell's Avatar
      stringer bell -
      To me, Roenicke makes the club for sure now. Due to his minor league contract, Walters is on the outside looking in. That leaves the real competition between Robertson and Burnett. I saw Robertson's best outing in person and asked JR about it (he was impressed) while I saw Burnett struggle in person. Both have options left, so I'm guessing whoever is more effective this week gets a job to start the season. As for who leaves the 40-man, perhaps the Twins trade Gardy's security blanket or maybe Rohlfing had a strong enough ST that they would consider DFAing Herrman.
    1. ThePuck's Avatar
      ThePuck -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Actually, there was an 11 year period, ending in the late 60s, when teams could carry 28 players on their active roster for the first 30 days of the season, before 1957, clubs could theoretically carry up to 40 players for the first 30 days. And conversely, in the late 80s, clubs had the option of carrying only 24 players, if they so chose.
      Thanks for the info...it makes my question make even more sense...why is it still just 25?
    1. matthew0211's Avatar
      matthew0211 -
      If they want to keep 13 pitchers (there ought to be some kind of law against that!) then they keep Robertson and Burnett, put Wood on the DL, and Walters stays off the major league roster - easy-peasy, no 40-man roster moves needed.

      But if they want to keep Wilkin, they have to move someone off the 40-man. Hernandez makes the most sense to me; as a soft-tossing AAAA type, he would seem to be the least likely to be claimed. He'd get outrighted to AAA after he clears waivers and stay in the organization.

      Also, don't the call-ups from last November have to stay on the 40-man for a certain amount of time? Herrmann, Theilbar, Hermsen, Pinto, etc. all fall into that category. But even so, I'd expose Hernandez to waivers and try to outright him to AAA. Sure, he had a good spring, but then again Walters looked good in the bullpen before his start yesterday, too.
    1. cmathewson's Avatar
      cmathewson -
      The 26th man question has come up the last two times the owners and PA have negotiated. The players and managers want the 26th man. The owners don't.
    1. twinsin17's Avatar
      twinsin17 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Oldgoat_MN View Post
      Thank you Seth.
      I am really happy for Ramirez. Hope this works out for him and the Twins.

      Kind of wonder, though, how long they will keep Arcia down. Unless he uncharacteristically falters he is one of the best bats we have coming. Having Ramirez, a fifth OF, on the bench complicates things a bit.
      I think the only way Arcia is called up is if a full time position opens i.e. Morneau/Willinghammer is traded or injured. It doesn't help him or the Twins any to have him riding pine.
    1. Rosterman's Avatar
      Rosterman -
      I would go with Thielbar taken off the 40-man. When Swarzak and Diamond comes back, who goes down?
    1. Blackjack's Avatar
      Blackjack -
      So who is going to be the new whipping boy for the blogging community? For awhile it was Punto, then Butera, now who?? My guess is Florimon...
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