• Ben Revere Traded to Philly for RHP Vance Worley & Top Pitching Prospect

    Vance Worley traded for Ben RevereThe Minnesota Twins have traded CF Ben Revere to the Philadelphia Phillies in exchange for RHP Vance Worley and a prospect. The prospect is Trevor May.

    Revere was the heir apparent for the Twins Center Field job going back to when Denard Span was dealt to the Washington Nationals for RHP Alex Meyer. He will go to the Phillies where he and Span will compete (with BJ Upton) for NL East (CF) supremacy.

    Vance Worley has spent parts of the past three seasons with the Phillies. Overall, he is 18-13 with a 3.50 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP. He also has 238 strikeouts in 277.2 (7.7 K/9).

    Trevor May is a 6-5, 215 pound right-hander. He was the #69 overall prospect according to Baseball America last year. As a 22 year old in the Eastern League (AA), he went 10-13 with a 4.87 ERA and a 1.45 WHIP. However, in 149.2 innings, he struckout 151 (and walked 78). He should fit pretty easily into the Twins top 10 prospects. He is currently ranked as the Phillies #2 prospect.

    Revere's Twins tenure is best known for his web gem frequency and his speed. He loved playing with the Twins and fans loved the smile that he always plays with. He is certainly limited offensively as a singles hitter, but he can steal bases. Some in the organization always saw him more as a 4th outfielder, so to get a solid MLB starting pitcher plus a very talented pitching prospect for him is a great move by Terry Ryan and the Twins!
    This article was originally published in blog: Revere Traded to Philly for Worley started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 226 Comments
    1. TwinsFanInPhilly's Avatar
      TwinsFanInPhilly -
      In October, Sickels came out with his preliminary top 50 Pitching prospects. Meyers was 28 and May was 32. Can't imagine that much has changed since mid Oct? Looks like a top 100 (or close to it) guy to me.
    1. striker_86's Avatar
      striker_86 -
      Fantastic trade, I love it. Keep adding those arms until we have too many
    1. Alex's Avatar
      Alex -
      Darin Masroianni is probably the happiest person on the earth about the Twins offseason. I don't see how he doesn't start in CF this year. They may need a #4 OF to back him up because I can't believe they'd call up Hicks to sit. I wonder if a fourth OF could be part of a Morneau trade.

      I don't think we need to worry about the top of the lineup. Carrol has a better OBP than either and Revereo or Span, while Mastro has good plate discipline and is a more interesting hitter than Revere.
    1. The Greatest Poster Alive's Avatar
      The Greatest Poster Alive -
      Good trade. I've been a fan of Worley for some time now, had him on my fantasy team last season to help out in the K department.

      The prospect in addition sounds pretty good as well.

      I just hope the Twins have a plan to keep Worley on this roster long-term, because he has to be entering his 3rd year of his service clock at this point.

      It's a step in the right direction improving pitching. And the Twins have in 2 consecutive deals sold High in a seller's market. The Bill Smith Era is over.
    1. FrodaddyG's Avatar
      FrodaddyG -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by crapforks View Post
      http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...ore-sense.html

      Speculation that those two (Worley-May) plus one piece (Brown or a catcher) was maybe getting them Justin Upton
      But, but....."Revere is a nice-guy, worthless, low-ceiling nobody"....
      It was speculated on a blog, it must have been close to actually happening!!!
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      Two words:

      Grady Sizemore.
    1. FrodaddyG's Avatar
      FrodaddyG -
      Quote Originally Posted by DAM DC Twins Fans View Post
      CF is going to need to be a track star to get all the balls...our pitchers are gonna give up runs. with this OF.
      A bold prediction that a pitching staff will allow runs. And to the outfield even!!!

      By most every account I've ever read, Hicks could be every bit the defensive CF that Revere is. He may not have the raw speed, but he's close, and Revere had plenty of, to put it kindly, "questionable" reads off the bat which he could recover from to make highlight plays with his wheels. Those are plays that Hicks, who is said to have excellent reads off the bat, also makes with ease.
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      Never mind. Sizemore is having surgery yet again.
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      I think the Twins must be rolling with either Mastro or Hicks because there is no CF out there that they could possibly sign.
    1. AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS's Avatar
      AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS -
      Quote Originally Posted by TwinsFanInPhilly View Post
      In October, Sickels came out with his preliminary top 50 Pitching prospects. Meyers was 28 and May was 32. Can't imagine that much has changed since mid Oct? Looks like a top 100 (or close to it) guy to me.
      Thanks for that! I sure hope he would drop out of the Top 100.
    1. AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS's Avatar
      AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
      Never mind. Sizemore is having surgery yet again.
      Haha i was just about to let you know that. Sizemore's career seems to be over. Sad....He was a hell of a ballplayer when healthy.
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      TR just said that Nick Blackburn should "bounce back" this year.

      So there's that.
    1. Jerr's Avatar
      Jerr -
      Twins pr firm can rerun the "get to know the Twins" this coming season
      I like the trade, but will miss Revere's enthusiasm and this team needs someone with "spunk". Alot of quiet non descript guys on this roster.
    1. ashburyjohn's Avatar
      ashburyjohn -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
      I think the Twins must be rolling with either Mastro or Hicks because there is no CF out there that they could possibly sign.
      They can not possibly believe Mastro can be a full-timer, even in a transitional season, can they?
    1. twinsnorth49's Avatar
      twinsnorth49 -
      Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
      I think the Twins must be rolling with either Mastro or Hicks because there is no CF out there that they could possibly sign.
      They can not possibly believe Mastro can be a full-timer, even in a transitional season, can they?
      I don't believe they do, indications are that at best he's some sort of stop-gap for Hicks, Benson or Arcia until May or June.
    1. diehardtwinsfan's Avatar
      diehardtwinsfan -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by S. View Post
      As has been said many times already, Revere was certainly fun to watch but only a fool wouldn't be happy about this trade. Now I'd love to see us sign Marcum to a 3 year deal to have a solid, veteran arm in the rotation to go along with the young guys who will be coming up over the next 3 years.

      A shortstop that doesn't make me weep would be nice too, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.


      The Twins absolutely have the money to do both. It's just unfortunate that the middle infield class is so weak this offseason.
      Which is why I still think they should go all out for Anibel Sanchez... Even if both of these guys turn out to be good, there's 5 spots and not much else in the pipeline to fill them with.
    1. robbie111's Avatar
      robbie111 -
      Any chance they could pry Zack Cozart and Robert Stephenson or Kyle Lotzkar away from the Reds? Would Carroll and Willingham get that done?
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by LaBombo View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by PseudoSABR View Post
      The distance between Worley and PJ Waters (or whomever he's replacing in the rotation) is greater than the distance between Revere and Mastroianni/Benson/Hicks. Our pitching is that gawdawful.

      Worley >>>>> Waters ; Revere >> Mastro

      This trade makes the Twins better in 2013 and beyond.
      Unfortunately, you have to factor the trade into the totality of all the moves thus far, the loss of Span, plus Revere, is crushing to the top of the lineup and to the OF defense. Again, Worley pitches one in five games, Span and Revere played virtually every day of the week.
      And when he pitches, Worley, like any starter, has about as much power to affect the outcome of the game as the other 9 guys combined. Revere was a fine ballplayer, but any organization that considers the loss of a .330-ish OBP from the top of a lineup "crushing" isn't going anywhere anyway. Given that the Twins entered the offseason with a 2013 rotation with only one certain member, and one with only one year in the majors to boot, it seems to me like they've had their doubts about contending in 2013 before the winter meetings even started.

      A quick and dirty WAR comparison says Revere/Deduno = Mastro/Worley in 2012, with Mastro playing part time and Worley missing a quarter of the season. I think they have a good chance to equal or exceed what Revere and Deduno might have done/ will do for the Twins in 2013.
      But you omitted the part of my comment about the crushing blow being the loss of Span and Revere. I'm confident in my belief that Mastro is not going to replace that loss and Revere's WAR will rise as a CF while Deduno getting a WAR rating close to the value of Worley only shows how imperfect WAR is as a tool.

      Quick check of BR oWAR combined w/ BR pitching WAR shows Revere/Deduno @ 2.3 and Mastro/Worley @ 1.1, quite different than Fangraphs WAR ratings.
    1. kab21's Avatar
      kab21 -
      The only chance is by trading Willingham. I'm not a fan of Lotzkar and I doubt Cozart is available but I think someone out of the Stephenson/Corcino/Cingrani could be available for Willingham if the Reds choose the trade route. I see them signing Ludwick though.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by twinsnorth49 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
      I think the Twins must be rolling with either Mastro or Hicks because there is no CF out there that they could possibly sign.
      They can not possibly believe Mastro can be a full-timer, even in a transitional season, can they?
      I don't believe they do, indications are that at best he's some sort of stop-gap for Hicks, Benson or Arcia until May or June.
      This has probably been stated elsewhere, but Ryan gave his full endorsement to Benson to make a play for the job, so they're likely going to hold back Hicks until at least June- so The Maestro and Benson it is!
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