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  • Ben Revere Traded to Philly for RHP Vance Worley & Top Pitching Prospect

    Vance Worley traded for Ben RevereThe Minnesota Twins have traded CF Ben Revere to the Philadelphia Phillies in exchange for RHP Vance Worley and a prospect. The prospect is Trevor May.

    Revere was the heir apparent for the Twins Center Field job going back to when Denard Span was dealt to the Washington Nationals for RHP Alex Meyer. He will go to the Phillies where he and Span will compete (with BJ Upton) for NL East (CF) supremacy.

    Vance Worley has spent parts of the past three seasons with the Phillies. Overall, he is 18-13 with a 3.50 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP. He also has 238 strikeouts in 277.2 (7.7 K/9).

    Trevor May is a 6-5, 215 pound right-hander. He was the #69 overall prospect according to Baseball America last year. As a 22 year old in the Eastern League (AA), he went 10-13 with a 4.87 ERA and a 1.45 WHIP. However, in 149.2 innings, he struckout 151 (and walked 78). He should fit pretty easily into the Twins top 10 prospects. He is currently ranked as the Phillies #2 prospect.

    Revere's Twins tenure is best known for his web gem frequency and his speed. He loved playing with the Twins and fans loved the smile that he always plays with. He is certainly limited offensively as a singles hitter, but he can steal bases. Some in the organization always saw him more as a 4th outfielder, so to get a solid MLB starting pitcher plus a very talented pitching prospect for him is a great move by Terry Ryan and the Twins!
    This article was originally published in blog: Revere Traded to Philly for Worley started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 226 Comments
    1. Mchans24's Avatar
      Mchans24 -
      I could see us being a contender in 2013 but Im not counting on it. 2014 and 2015 I am actually counting on. Of course, things could and will go wrong but I see us building our farm system back to a point that things are very optimistic. No doubt Terry will continue to look for this years Ryan Doumit, Josh Willingham and the relief pitcher who slips my mind right now in free agency. I think we need another REALLY solid pitcher to make us a contender. Even though I hate to say this, Liriano on a one year deal isnt a horrible option. The guy can be a real #1 at times. If he has one of those years and gets confidence early you never know.
    1. edavis0308's Avatar
      edavis0308 -
      It has been reported that our plan this whole time has been to sign one free agent pitcher, was it not? That makes me feel way better in that aspect as well.
    1. AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS's Avatar
      AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS View Post
      Exactly.....Is Morneau and Willingham next?!
      Hard to say. I think they'll open the season with both, really.

      But if there is still a market for outfielders, I'm sure Ryan will listen. After all, there are divisions outside the NL East that might need an outfielder.
      Could Willingham get better players than Revere just did? I have a feeling Twins are quietly listening to what Morneau and Willingham could recieve. I honestly dont think this is the last trade we are going to make. I have a feeling one of those 2 will be traded for a pitcher.
    1. AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS's Avatar
      AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS -
      Quote Originally Posted by edavis0308 View Post
      It has been reported that our plan this whole time has been to sign one free agent pitcher, was it not? That makes me feel way better in that aspect as well.
      Now the question is.....WHO?!
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by kab21 View Post
      I'm not sure Worley should be considered a significant return but he should be a solid #3/4 to stop the bleeding. Interesting stat that troubles me is that while he has a decent K rate he has an awful swinging strike rate.
      MLBTR is reporting that a "good" prospect was also included.

      If true, that is ONE HELL of a haul for Revere.
      Care to reconsider your evaluation or did Ryan do a major hose job on the Phillies?
    1. Oxtung's Avatar
      Oxtung -
      Quote Originally Posted by ThePuck View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Nygaard View Post
      I guess the "value of Ben Revere" question can be put to rest...
      Well, Ryan was able to totally bone Philly who was desperate for a cheap CF with major league experience...so maybe, maybe not.
      We also don't know what Philly, the team with the most knowledge of their pitchers, felt about the futures of these 2. To me this reads as Philly was very uncomfortable with these pitchers futures. I think Philly wanted to get what value they could from these 2 before one potentially turns into a lemon and the other a pumpkin.
    1. ericchri's Avatar
      ericchri -
      Here at Ben Revere Daily...

      I'm really excited, we got a guy who looks to be a solid major leaguer and a prospect with upside. And it means we'll definitely see Hicks at some point next year, barring injury (knock on wood). If both pitchers pan out, this move is fantastic. There some pretty big question marks for both of them, though. My chronic page refreshing today is finally rewarded, however.

      I've been looking forward to Aaron Hicks for a couple years now, he's almost the perfect example of what I want in a CF if he makes the transition successfully. It'll be interesting to see how they try and fill the position. Live with Mastro until Hicks is ready? Play Benson regardless of last year since he's already had service time in the majors? Throw Hicks in the deep end and see if he swims? Pick up a half-year rental from the scrap heap?
    1. spideyo's Avatar
      spideyo -
      Well damn. I'm as big a Revere booster as anybody, but I guess I have to admit this is a good trade for the Twins. I'll miss Ben a lot, he was exciting to watch and an all around good guy. Hopefully he thrives in Philly and we see him back here in 2014 for the Allstar game.

      This does definitely make Spring Training a lot more interesting. Willingham, Mauer, Doumit and Mourneau are the only guys that are going to show up in Florida knowing for sure what there role will be.
    1. ThePuck's Avatar
      ThePuck -
      Quote Originally Posted by AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by edavis0308 View Post
      It has been reported that our plan this whole time has been to sign one free agent pitcher, was it not? That makes me feel way better in that aspect as well.
      Now the question is.....WHO?!
      I'm hoping Marcum. Marcum, Worley, Diamond and Gibson in the front 4. Not great, but it's a start...
    1. messed up's Avatar
      messed up -
      I was with you on this one Riverbrian. I hate to lose Revere but it's no surprise to me the Twins got more for Revere than they did for Span
    1. E. Andrew's Avatar
      E. Andrew -
      Very excited about this, have really liked Worley from afar for a couple years. Revere was fine and good, but the worst of our highest-rated ourtfield prospects. Pumped to get both a solid starter and a promising prospect - - very smart move.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by ThePuck View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Nygaard View Post
      I guess the "value of Ben Revere" question can be put to rest...
      Bingo. The Phillies could have afforded a Bourn but got Revere on my "percentage of salary valuation" argument basis.

      No question though, Twins got a great trade. I'm excited that they have finally folded their cards and prepared for 2014/15.
      Philly very likely can't afford Bourn or Hamilton
      I've heard arguments both ways, but if you evaluate their cash flow, it probably only would have involved moving a vet or two to have made it happen.
    1. SurroundedByTigers's Avatar
      SurroundedByTigers -
      This means Hicks is the new starting centerfielder and lead-off man for Twins. He will probably struggle, and flop spots for Benson in the minors, but both will be up here by midseason. Next up to leave is Morneau, unfortunately. Twins might be able to solve a bullpen spot, and 3B for Morneau, with Parmalee moving to 1B. All these moves make the Twins more than competitive in 2nd half of 2013 moving forward.
    1. Dilligaf69's Avatar
      Dilligaf69 -
      Can't see how you could be the least upset for this trade. This is a GREAT get for Revere...I'm shocked we got a starter and a top SP prospect for Ben...WOW!
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Nygaard View Post
      I guess the "value of Ben Revere" question can be put to rest...

      Or the "do the Phillies have a competent Front Office?" question can be put to rest....

      Just because Barry Zito got 100 million several years ago doesn't mean that was his "value"
    1. gunnarthor's Avatar
      gunnarthor -
      Quote Originally Posted by AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS View Post
      Exactly.....Is Morneau and Willingham next?!
      Hard to say. I think they'll open the season with both, really.

      But if there is still a market for outfielders, I'm sure Ryan will listen. After all, there are divisions outside the NL East that might need an outfielder.
      Could Willingham get better players than Revere just did? I have a feeling Twins are quietly listening to what Morneau and Willingham could recieve. I honestly dont think this is the last trade we are going to make. I have a feeling one of those 2 will be traded for a pitcher.
      I don't think Willingham or Morneau have that kind of value. I think both have better value at the trade deadline when a team (say Pitt) needs a power bat to stay in the race and the fans demand it.

      That said, Ryan has pulled off two pretty nice trades already so Willingham for Bauer must be next.
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Care to reconsider your evaluation or did Ryan do a major hose job on the Phillies?
      Oh, Ryan hosed the Phillies, without a doubt.

      And I was never that down on Revere's value. I thought he had a decent chance of maintaining his value through 2013, which is when I hoped he'd be traded (though I always said if an offer was there, take it and run like hell).

      But I never valued him very high. There's a difference between how I value a guy and how one of 29 other general managers might value that guy. I don't believe I ever said the Twins couldn't get value for Revere, I simply said that extending him was ludicrous because his ceiling was relatively low (and that I think no-hit speedsters are a mistake in general).
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by messed up View Post
      I was with you on this one Riverbrian. I hate to lose Revere but it's no surprise to me the Twins got more for Revere than they did for Span
      Let's just say more than just a few TD regulars are stunned at the haul the Twins got. I'm pleasantly and enthusiastically "surprised" that the Twins could pull this off---
      as they have historically tended to undervalue their assets and overvalue their acquisition targets.
    1. Dilligaf69's Avatar
      Dilligaf69 -
      Don't see us paying for Marcum but 2 of Liriano/Lannan/Myers/Saunders is a possibility...for sure 1 of em???
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by SurroundedByTigers View Post
      This means Hicks is the new starting centerfielder and lead-off man for Twins. He will probably struggle, and flop spots for Benson in the minors, but both will be up here by midseason. Next up to leave is Morneau, unfortunately. Twins might be able to solve a bullpen spot, and 3B for Morneau, with Parmalee moving to 1B. All these moves make the Twins more than competitive in 2nd half of 2013 moving forward.
      I could see him having a very similar season to Torri Hunter's rookie season. Hicks like Hunter is already there defensively, his bat has shown promise and progress in the minors but I wouldn't be shocked to see him struggle a bit. (10HR and a .675 OPS or so). As long as he isn't hitting like Butera I think they should let him take his lumps until he truely "loses" the psot.
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