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  • Ben Revere Traded to Philly for RHP Vance Worley & Top Pitching Prospect

    Vance Worley traded for Ben RevereThe Minnesota Twins have traded CF Ben Revere to the Philadelphia Phillies in exchange for RHP Vance Worley and a prospect. The prospect is Trevor May.

    Revere was the heir apparent for the Twins Center Field job going back to when Denard Span was dealt to the Washington Nationals for RHP Alex Meyer. He will go to the Phillies where he and Span will compete (with BJ Upton) for NL East (CF) supremacy.

    Vance Worley has spent parts of the past three seasons with the Phillies. Overall, he is 18-13 with a 3.50 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP. He also has 238 strikeouts in 277.2 (7.7 K/9).

    Trevor May is a 6-5, 215 pound right-hander. He was the #69 overall prospect according to Baseball America last year. As a 22 year old in the Eastern League (AA), he went 10-13 with a 4.87 ERA and a 1.45 WHIP. However, in 149.2 innings, he struckout 151 (and walked 78). He should fit pretty easily into the Twins top 10 prospects. He is currently ranked as the Phillies #2 prospect.

    Revere's Twins tenure is best known for his web gem frequency and his speed. He loved playing with the Twins and fans loved the smile that he always plays with. He is certainly limited offensively as a singles hitter, but he can steal bases. Some in the organization always saw him more as a 4th outfielder, so to get a solid MLB starting pitcher plus a very talented pitching prospect for him is a great move by Terry Ryan and the Twins!
    This article was originally published in blog: Revere Traded to Philly for Worley started by Seth Stohs
    Comments 226 Comments
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      I'll stand by my prediction that if he has a strong season in a ballpark favorable to what he does best, the Phillies consider extension talks in the offseason.
      And I'd still consider it a mistake but I think Revere will do better in the NL and that ballpark than he ever would in Target Field.
      I fully agree, he's made for the NL and that park and a classy organization. I wish him the best. I just don't like the supposed Twins fans on a Twins blog who still want to get one more kick at a guy- who's done nothing wrong- as he's going out the door.
    1. JB_Iowa's Avatar
      JB_Iowa -
      This is the kind of trade I've been waiting to see from Terry Ryan -- glad to see he still has the contacts, skill and guts to make it happen.

      But I will miss Revere's grin.

      Please let some of the call-ups and additions bring some excitement because right not the Twins look like a very boring team.
    1. E. Andrew's Avatar
      E. Andrew -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by 071063 View Post
      Do you think they will start with Hick is CF day 1? I don't believe they will. I think they will let him get his feet wet at AAA and use Mastro in CF, along with maybe Benson or Arcia. Then maybe mid-season or so, if Hicks has done well at AAA, bring him up. Thoughts?
      This is what I'd like to see.
      Agree that this probably is the smartest move.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by roger View Post
      Will Joe Benson be starting in center field on opening day? Whereas Hicks may be the centerfielder of the short-term future, I doubt the Twins believe he will be ready on opening day. More likely sometime next summer. As for Benson, everything possible went wrong last year including two serious injuries (hamate bone and knee). What effect that had on his dismal season is unknown, however, one has to assume it had a real effect. If 100% healthy in spring, he just could report to Fort Myers and 'win' the starting centerfield job. On the other hand, Mr. Ryan will probably scrounge around for someone to compete with Mastroianni for center/4th outfielder should neither of the close kids win the job.
      But right this very minute, Hicks is ahead of Benson. Benson had a horrible year last year, getting demoted twice. I know some of that was due to the hamate bone and resulting surgery. But he started slow and never got going. Hicks got going and continued through the fall land Winter leagues. Hicks is my favorite to win the job out of spring training.
      Do you think the Twins don't routinely promote the inferior guy, if in their mind it's a better business decision?
    1. Oxtung's Avatar
      Oxtung -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by 071063 View Post
      Do you think they will start with Hick is CF day 1? I don't believe they will. I think they will let him get his feet wet at AAA and use Mastro in CF, along with maybe Benson or Arcia. Then maybe mid-season or so, if Hicks has done well at AAA, bring him up. Thoughts?
      This is what I'd like to see.
      Agreed. Hicks has zero PA's above AA. Let him get a few months at AAA then let's reevaluate. That also should prevent him from reaching super 2 status. I think the most interesting question is what happens with Benson?
    1. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
      Brock Beauchamp -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      I'll stand by my prediction that if he has a strong season in a ballpark favorable to what he does best, the Phillies consider extension talks in the offseason.
      And I'd still consider it a mistake but I think Revere will do better in the NL and that ballpark than he ever would in Target Field.
      I fully agree, he's made for the NL and that park and a classy organization. I wish him the best. I just don't like the supposed Twins fans on a Twins blog who still want to get one more kick at a guy- who's done nothing wrong- as he's going out the door.
      Generally, I only kick the player, not the person. I like Revere. He's a blast to watch. He seems like a great guy who just wants to play baseball.

      But as a player, I don't think he's very good. That doesn't mean I wish him ill or anything, I just don't see his skillset playing out over the longterm.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by JB_Iowa View Post
      This is the kind of trade I've been waiting to see from Terry Ryan -- glad to see he still has the contacts, skill and guts to make it happen.

      But I will miss Revere's grin.

      Please let some of the call-ups and additions bring some excitement because right not the Twins look like a very boring team.
      No pain, no gain. I'm planning on enjoying following the minor league teams a lot more next year.
    1. E. Andrew's Avatar
      E. Andrew -
      Quote Originally Posted by joeboo_22 View Post
      I think Willingham can bring a good return now, but he could bring more at the deadline if he has a solid season. Morneau, and who knows with some of these trades and contracts being handed out, I see with much more upside trading at the deadline then now, unless someone really loves him.
      From a financial perspective, I wouldn't want to trade Willingham at this point. He's got a great contract, sure, but that aside, a certain type of fan really likes Willingham. Most people posting here have at least a general understanding of the potential we're now 'nearing' with our minor leaguers, but the opposite type of fan thinks 'WTF kind of team are we fielding?' That type of fan likes Morneau and Willingham, which does matter when it comes down to $s and filled seats. At this price, why throw away a big part of our available power?
    1. 70charger's Avatar
      70charger -
      Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking View Post
      A week ago, I don't know that Revere could have fetched either of them by himself. Timing is everything. Awesome.
      Remember 2 weeks ago when so many were saying "Why hasn't Terry Ryan DONE anything yet? Derp." Ha.
    1. Boom Boom's Avatar
      Boom Boom -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      I'll stand by my prediction that if he has a strong season in a ballpark favorable to what he does best, the Phillies consider extension talks in the offseason.
      And I'd still consider it a mistake but I think Revere will do better in the NL and that ballpark than he ever would in Target Field.
      I fully agree, he's made for the NL and that park and a classy organization. I wish him the best. I just don't like the supposed Twins fans on a Twins blog who still want to get one more kick at a guy- who's done nothing wrong- as he's going out the door.
      Generally, I only kick the player, not the person. I like Revere. He's a blast to watch. He seems like a great guy who just wants to play baseball.

      But as a player, I don't think he's very good. That doesn't mean I wish him ill or anything, I just don't see his skillset playing out over the longterm.
      Revere is going to lead the NL East in BIS/9 (Bright Infectious Smiles per 9 innings).
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      I'll stand by my prediction that if he has a strong season in a ballpark favorable to what he does best, the Phillies consider extension talks in the offseason.
      And I'd still consider it a mistake but I think Revere will do better in the NL and that ballpark than he ever would in Target Field.
      I fully agree, he's made for the NL and that park and a classy organization. I wish him the best. I just don't like the supposed Twins fans on a Twins blog who still want to get one more kick at a guy- who's done nothing wrong- as he's going out the door.
      Generally, I only kick the player, not the person. I like Revere. He's a blast to watch. He seems like a great guy who just wants to play baseball.

      But as a player, I don't think he's very good. That doesn't mean I wish him ill or anything, I just don't see his skillset playing out over the longterm.
      A valid opinion, his numbers and arm illustrate his strengths and weaknesses. The Phillies, who in recent history have been a very successful franchise, must have looked past those numbers and come to a different definition of "good".

      I wonder if anyone is tracking the Phillies fan response to the trade?
    1. E. Andrew's Avatar
      E. Andrew -
      Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking View Post
      A week ago, I don't know that Revere could have fetched either of them by himself. Timing is everything. Awesome.
      Possibly a stretch, but I love to agree, and love the trade.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Concur. However, is it more than 50% certain that Gibson breaks with the team in April in the rotation? I'd say it's still highly doubtful, especially if they decide on a specific inning limitation. I also am not holding my breath that they get Marcum unless they move Willingham or Morneau.
      No, I think Gibson's chance of being in the Opening Day rotation is very much in the air.

      But now that the Twins have at least $25m to spend (based on current payroll and last year's number), they're going to have to go get somebody (or, more likely, multiple cheaper somebodies).

      I think the chances of going after some middle infield help has risen dramatically in the past hour.
      Boston and Baltimore have MI depth if the Twins are willing to pull the trigger again.
    1. Boom Boom's Avatar
      Boom Boom -
      Quote Originally Posted by JB_Iowa View Post
      This is the kind of trade I've been waiting to see from Terry Ryan -- glad to see he still has the contacts, skill and guts to make it happen.

      But I will miss Revere's grin.

      Please let some of the call-ups and additions bring some excitement because right not the Twins look like a very boring team.
      If you want exciting characters on the Twins team, you'll love Worley.
    1. Kirby_Waved_At_Me's Avatar
      Kirby_Waved_At_Me -
      I agree that timing had a lot to do with this - is it also possible that Philadelphia wanted Revere more than Span? Would they have offered Worley/May for Span a week ago?
      Would the Nats have offered Meyer for Revere? I think the answer to both of those is no.
      I wonder how much impact having Span go to a rival had on the return from Philadelphia. The need for a CF was there regardless, but it's possible there was more incentive to move with the Nationals getting the jump on them. I expect all three teams are happy with the players they acquired.
    1. Riverbrian's Avatar
      Riverbrian -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Nygaard View Post
      I guess the "value of Ben Revere" question can be put to rest...

      Or the "do the Phillies have a competent Front Office?" question can be put to rest....

      Just because Barry Zito got 100 million several years ago doesn't mean that was his "value"
      Actually I'm pretty sure that Zito getting 100 million means his value was 100 million at that time. This really can't be disputed. The value of anything is what someone is willing to pay for it. It doesn't matter if you wouldn't pay it or the Mariners wouldn't pay it. The value can only be established by what someone will pay.

      The value side of the discussion is over. The market is clear... Now if this is a future projection discussion... That will last forever all the way into the future until Ben doesn't have a uniform anymore and I will never be confident enough with any player to participate in that discussion.

      To Ben Revere... If you are reading this... Thank You... I appreciated your effort and ability every day... Even when you screwed up on pccasion. I believe you will have a nice career ahead of you if you keep playing balls out like you did here in Minnesota.

      Go get em in Philly... I hate that team a lot less now.
    1. kab21's Avatar
      kab21 -
      I wonder if anyone is tracking the Phillies fan response to the trade?
      I think they would be laughing at how excited we are about a #4 starter and a prospect with some big mechanical issues to work out. Still it's a great trade for the Twins because Revere is replaceable. Likewise in philly both of these guys are replaceable.

      i just remembered that a fantasy forum was calling him Vance, Vance Revolution.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      This is a good trade. First time I ac recall Ryan trading a good young player for a mlb player, let alone also getting a prospect. Maybe this is a new Ryan. I agree with others, this does not mean you have to punt on next year. Great trade, though the injury makes me nervous.
    1. Wookiee of the Year's Avatar
      Wookiee of the Year -
      Wow. I'm going to miss Revere, and was sad to see the announcement he was traded. But there's no way to be disappointed in this trade--TR brought back a haul.

      We might struggle in 2013, but the Twin's future looks bright.
    1. joeboo_22's Avatar
      joeboo_22 -
      I think this trade is one that you won't be able to get a great view on the trade for a few years.
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