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    If you want to think big this offseason, Trevor Bauer might be your guy.
    It's no secret that the Twins are looking for starting pitching. The free agent market is filled with plenty of intriguing arms but another way of accomplishing this task is to trade. There have been rumors of the Twins inquiring about a couple of different starting pitchers but a new name has emerged on the market.

    Word leaked out earlier this week about the Arizona Diamondbacks possibly being ready to shop top pitching prospect Trevor Bauer. It sounds like there is a division between Bauer and the D-Backs over his future with the club. Of course, it would take a lot to acquire a 21-year old pitcher with a ton of upside. If they are truly willing to shop Bauer, there will be plenty of interest from multiple club - for good reason.

    Bauer was the third pick of the 2011 amateur draft out of UCLA. During this past season, he made his debut with Arizona and was roughed up in his four appearances (6.06 ERA, 13BB in 16.1 IP) before being sent back to Triple-A. His numbers in the higher levels of the minor leagues have very good as he has a low 2.42 ERA and 157 strikeouts in 130 innings pitched. He made it to the big leagues in less than a year and still has plenty of potential.

    The one downside to Bauer looks like his command of the strike zone because he gave up 61 walks over his 130 minor league innings. In the cup of coffee in the majors, he averaged almost a walk an inning. This doesn't sound like the type of pitcher Terry Ryan and the Twins would target. Bauer doesn't fit the mold of soft throwing strike throwers but it could be time for Minnesota to go in a different direction.

    For Minnesota and Arizona, finding trade pieces could be tough for a couple of different reasons. The one area of surplus for the Twins is in the outfield and Arizona has enough outfielders that they are trying to trade away Justin Upton after already parting ways with Chris Young. This means the Twins could save Denard Span or Josh Willingham for a different trade but it also means the Twins would have to part with some top prospects.

    The results were not so good the last time the Twins traded a top prospect for pitching. Wilson Ramos looked to be ready to break-out at the major league level but the Twins sent him to Washington for Matt Capps. A trade with the D-Backs would take on a different light because Minnesota would be trading for a rising star in the pitching ranks and not a closer with mediocre stuff. This still leaves questions about what the Twins could send away from their prospect ranks.

    In my preliminary Twins prospect list for this offseason, there are some very good players at the top of the list. Would the Twins be willing to part with a couple of their top 10 prospects to get Bauer? How about a couple of players in the top 5? Which players would you say are untouchable?

    1. Miguel Sano, 3B (Age 19)
    2. Byron Buxton, OF (Age 18)
    3. Aaron Hicks, OF (Age 23)
    4. Oswaldo Arcia, OF (Age 21)
    5. Eddie Rosario, OF/2B (Age 21)
    6. Kyle Gibson, RHP (Age 25)
    7. Jose Berrios, RHP (Age 18)
    8. Travis Harrison, 3B (Age 20)
    9. Max Kepler, OF (Age 19)
    10. Joe Benson, OF (Age 24)

    It could take quite the haul to bring in Bauer and it's questionable how much the Twins should empty their farm system for the chance to acquire a young starting pitcher. The upside of Bauer is enough to get fans excited about the chance of him joining their organization this offseason. A deal might not be likely at this point but the right combination of prospects could make this trade a reality.

    If you were in Terry Ryan's GM chair, what would you offer? And would it be enough? Leave a COMMENT.
    This article was originally published in blog: Twins should target Trevor Bauer started by Cody Christie
    Comments 35 Comments
    1. righty8383's Avatar
      righty8383 -
      I would offer any one of our prospects straight up for Bauer (Buxton and Berrios not eligable of course). I would not offer 2 top 5's or even a top 5 and a top 10. Perhaps a top 5(not Sano) plus Levi Michael, who despite his unproductive season in Fort Myers, should still have value as a prospect.
    1. Dave T's Avatar
      Dave T -
      This looks like Garza part II. If he won't listen to Arizona's pitching coaches, why would he listen to ours?
    1. mysonlikes7's Avatar
      mysonlikes7 -
      Combination of Hicks/Gibson/Benson
    1. mysonlikes7's Avatar
      mysonlikes7 -
      Forgot to add two of those three to the last post.
    1. nicksaviking's Avatar
      nicksaviking -
      The Twins aren't known to be very patient with stubborn pitchers. He insists on using his four seamer up in the zone to strike guys out, while the team wants him to use his 2 seamer low and away. That's not something the Twins generally tolerate.

      Plus there's this:
      http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/4/13/29...a-diamondbacks

      His insistance on boasing about his K numbers at the expense of control and allowing baserunners, combined with his attention hog antics kind of hint that his primary goal was to score big arbitration/free agent dollars before he ever landed in the big leagues. I'd rather his priorities were better aligned with winning baseball games.

      I'd take him, but not at the price AZ would be willing to accept.
    1. gunnarthor's Avatar
      gunnarthor -
      I agree with others that his stubbornness might turn off the Twins. That said, if the Twins do really think they can get him working properly, I think they'd have to give up a lot for him. Span/Sano/Goodrum or Sano/Arcia/Kepler would be realistic starting points.
    1. Kwak's Avatar
      Kwak -
      Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.
    1. mike wants wins's Avatar
      mike wants wins -
      He is 21. What kind of maturity are you looking for? And Garza has been effective.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Already a thread about this.
    1. ThePuck's Avatar
      ThePuck -
      Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
      He is 21. What kind of maturity are you looking for? And Garza has been effective.
      When asked about whether or not it was crazy for Arizona to want to trade Bauer, KLaw wrote: ' It is crazy and goes back to the D-backs souring on Upton for similar reasons. Bauer is 21. If you're concerned that he's immature, you probably should spend more time around 21-year-old men so that you realize that they're pretty much all immature.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by righty8383 View Post
      i would offer any one of our prospects straight up for bauer (buxton and berrios not eligable of course). I would not offer 2 top 5's or even a top 5 and a top 10. Perhaps a top 5(not sano) plus levi michael, who despite his unproductive season in fort myers, should still have value as a prospect.
      lol Bauer is a top 5 prospect in all of baseball, you aren't going to get him for a mid 50's guy and Levi Michael who has very little trade value.

      The cost for Bauer starts at Sano+

      Or potentially 2 of Hicks/Arcia/Rosario
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.
      What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      If TD participants have knowledge of Bauer being a head case, wouldn't the MLB community be aware of this also. It seems like it would be in Arizona's best interest to hold on to him and try to fix the mess in his noggin. With the information being shared on this thread, why would any organization trade their top notch prospects to AZ for Bauer.... this smells like a buy low situation.
    1. minn55441's Avatar
      minn55441 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge View Post
      If TD participants have knowledge of Bauer being a head case, wouldn't the MLB community be aware of this also. It seems like it would be in Arizona's best interest to hold on to him and try to fix the mess in his noggin. With the information being shared on this thread, why would any organization trade their top notch prospects to AZ for Bauer.... this smells like a sell low situation.
      We knew that Delmon was a head case when we acquired him. There are always teams that think they can straighten the guy out. didn't work so well for us in Delmon's case.
    1. minn55441's Avatar
      minn55441 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge View Post
      If TD participants have knowledge of Bauer being a head case, wouldn't the MLB community be aware of this also. It seems like it would be in Arizona's best interest to hold on to him and try to fix the mess in his noggin. With the information being shared on this thread, why would any organization trade their top notch prospects to AZ for Bauer.... this smells like a sell low situation.
      Where there is smoke there is usually fire. It would be tough situation where your ace is intent on pitching his way, training his way and is not receptive to taking advise from coaches and other advisers in the organization.
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      Quote Originally Posted by minn55441 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge View Post
      If TD participants have knowledge of Bauer being a head case, wouldn't the MLB community be aware of this also. It seems like it would be in Arizona's best interest to hold on to him and try to fix the mess in his noggin. With the information being shared on this thread, why would any organization trade their top notch prospects to AZ for Bauer.... this smells like a sell low situation.
      Where there is smoke there is usually fire. It would be tough situation where your ace is intent on pitching his way, training his way and is not receptive to taking advise from coaches and other advisers in the organization.
      Unless you could get him for a case of Miller High Life and some Banana flavored Laffy Taffy - I think I would have to pass.
    1. twinstalker's Avatar
      twinstalker -
      Yeah, Bauer commands Sano+. No? Then Arizona will take Bauer and easily trade him to a team with good hitting prospects. The Red Sox would easily part with Bogaerts to get Bauer. Cleveland would give up Lindor and anything else Arizona wants. Bauer has the value of a young Curt Schilling, circa 1993. We could get him, but Sano and Rosario would be the return. What they should do is see if Texas will give them Andrus and one of their good prospects like Rogned (sp). Their middle infield could be set for years.
    1. Kwak's Avatar
      Kwak -
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.
      What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???
      Yes.
    1. drivlikejehu's Avatar
      drivlikejehu -
      The whole thing smells. Sounds to me like Arizona is worried his arm isn't going to hold up (reading between the lines of course), or maybe just to send him a message. Regardless, you don't trade someone like Bauer because of his pitch selection or a little immaturity. Arizona is either bluffing or sees a torn labrum in his future.
    1. SpiritofVodkaDave's Avatar
      SpiritofVodkaDave -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
      Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.
      What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???
      Yes.
      wow.....
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