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  • Twins Promote Eduardo Escobar and Luis Perdomo as September Callups

    Per a tweet by Pioneer Press beat reporter John Shipley, the Twins are only calling up two players as September callups. Eduardo Escobar, a middle-infielder acquired when the Twins traded Francisco Liriano, and Luis Perdomo, a right-handed reliever who pitched for the Twins earlier this year, will join the Twins tomorrow.

    This means that shortstop Brian Dozier, who spent most of the year with the Twins, and reliever Anthony Slama, who gave up just four earned runs in Rochester this year, will not be joining the Twins. It also means two top prospects from New Britain (AA), Aaron Hicks and Oswaldo Arcia, will also not be on the team. It also means the Twins have three open spots on their 40-man roster.
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    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      Guerra, Slama, and Dozier were the quite obvious call-ups. Escobar was bad at Rochester and is certainly not going to prove that he is the SS next year in September this year (and apparently, he doesn't even play SS now?).

      I am completely confused by these decisions as affecting the MI and bullpen situations . . . I mean they HAVE the personnel to figure something out. Replacing Jeff Gray and potentially Alex Burnett and Anthony Swarzak with Guerra, Slama, and Waldrop is WORTH seeing the potential there. Spring alone is not enough. And Escobar is at best the utility infielder next year and that's only if there is an injury. Carroll is a sure thing and can play SS, even though he is better at 2B and 3B (bat not included, save for tonight!). The Twins were straight up weird about Dozier all year. He didn't deserve the callup, was kept too long, and NOW when it makes the most sense BY FAR to call him up . . . he is done?? That is bizarre as hell. Seeing a Florimon-Dozier middle infield would have been the best option, and I can't really see any possible counter-arguments.
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      With regard to Guerra, there is no reason to lose him next year (someone would claim him, almost for sure). He is young and is probably a year away, but I would bet that he will be better in the majors in 2013 than Jeff Gray was in 2012.

      For the sake of my sanity, I am trying to avoid talking about the Slama decision. It was to be expected . . . yet I still cannot believe it.
    1. greengoblinrulz's Avatar
      greengoblinrulz -
      This is the organization that last fall when they had #2 waiver claims on anyone snapped up Esmeril Vazquez, Matt Maloney, Jeff Gray & Pedro Florimon before other teams could swoop in & grab these obvious talents. When one by one they realized THEY didnt want them on the 40 man, not a single team wanted them either.
      These are the type of evaluations that are being done in this front office.
      Add in Nick Blackburn, who every one knows is gonna be given at least 2 separate shots next year due to his contract & you see where this team is headed next summer.
    1. Bark's Lounge's Avatar
      Bark's Lounge -
      I know some have, but I am hoping to solicit a few more in TD participants in jumping in on the the "Anthony Slama Petition". We need all the help we can get. Please participate.
    1. greengoblinrulz's Avatar
      greengoblinrulz -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
      With regard to Guerra, there is no reason to lose him next year (someone would claim him, almost for sure). He is young and is probably a year away, but I would bet that he will be better in the majors in 2013 than Jeff Gray was in 2012.

      For the sake of my sanity, I am trying to avoid talking about the Slama decision. It was to be expected . . . yet I still cannot believe it.
      Just think of how everyone is saying they havent lost Guerra yet......if he makes the team next spring, Its ONLY cause he's out of options. There has been nothing the last 2 yrs he couldve done to get a look....but now he's gonna be 'on scholarship?'......He's done without a look.
      Im predicting they will keep Guerra, Manship, Vazquez, Walters, Carson, Deduno on the 40 man (all out of options) and after the 'new season' starts (after Rule V).....when real teams 40 man rosters are set, they will DFA these guys so they get sent to AAA instead of becoming 6yr FA's
    1. Coach J's Avatar
      Coach J -
      I am not one for conspiracy theories.. but there is something going on here. I am convinced the Twins are determined to keep Slama down because they don't want to be proven wrong. Gardy doesn't seem to be a fan of his and I think if Slama came up and was successful it would make a lot of people in the organization look pretty foolish. I just feel so terrible for Anthony.. if we are this mad, imagine how he feels.
    1. snepp's Avatar
      snepp -
      Aren't there restrictions in place to keep teams from playing games with minor league free agency and/or the Rule 5?


      My google magic is a little rusty tonight, I haven't been able to find anything.
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      Quote Originally Posted by Coach J View Post
      I am not one for conspiracy theories.. but there is something going on here. I am convinced the Twins are determined to keep Slama down because they don't want to be proven wrong. Gardy doesn't seem to be a fan of his and I think if Slama came up and was successful it would make a lot of people in the organization look pretty foolish. I just feel so terrible for Anthony.. if we are this mad, imagine how he feels.
      I know, right? I know little about the kind of person Slama is, but I can imagine him saying . . . "trade me for that damn box of rocks, then." It defies all rationality to do this to him unless they don't want to look like idiots OR have some master plan to just start the season next year with him . . .

      It is weird, but it is this situation and what it exemplifies that pushes me towards the "new blood" crowd and the pipe dream wish of firing TR, Gardy, and company (only new ownership would ever bring that about).
    1. toma's Avatar
      toma -
      Dear Everyone,
      You are interested in adding a 28-year old right-handed reliever to the 40 man roster because....??? Isn't Slama's upside to be Alex Burnett and more likely projects to take the place of Casey Fien or Kyle Waldrop except both of those players have the advantage of being on the 40 man roster. Right handed relief at the lower levels is probably the easiest and cheapest pitchers to replace on the team. I see no value in adding Anthony Slama to the 40 man roster. I would be shocked if he was selected in the Rule 5 draft.
    1. jokin's Avatar
      jokin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Coach J View Post
      I am not one for conspiracy theories.. but there is something going on here. I am convinced the Twins are determined to keep Slama down because they don't want to be proven wrong. Gardy doesn't seem to be a fan of his and I think if Slama came up and was successful it would make a lot of people in the organization look pretty foolish. I just feel so terrible for Anthony.. if we are this mad, imagine how he feels.
      I know, right? I know little about the kind of person Slama is, but I can imagine him saying . . . "trade me for that damn box of rocks, then." It defies all rationality to do this to him unless they don't want to look like idiots OR have some master plan to just start the season next year with him . . .

      It is weird, but it is this situation and what it exemplifies that pushes me towards the "new blood" crowd and the pipe dream wish of firing TR, Gardy, and company (only new ownership would ever bring that about).


      Welcome to the Darkside, Shane.
    1. beckmt's Avatar
      beckmt -
      Slama has been judged not to have the stuff for the major leagues. Do we need to waste more time on this.
      Maybe the feeling on Dozier was he needed to grow up and take responsibility, this could not be done in 3 weeks.
      Twins need to find out what they have now and move on, not spread AB's and innings into small samples.
      Grey will probably not be here next year.
      Twins brass seems to like Swarzak better than Manship or they are viewed as the same type of pitcher.
      Remember every loss now helps our draft position next June
    1. righty8383's Avatar
      righty8383 -
      Quote Originally Posted by toma View Post
      Dear Everyone,
      You are interested in adding a 28-year old right-handed reliever to the 40 man roster because....??? Isn't Slama's upside to be Alex Burnett and more likely projects to take the place of Casey Fien or Kyle Waldrop except both of those players have the advantage of being on the 40 man roster. Right handed relief at the lower levels is probably the easiest and cheapest pitchers to replace on the team. I see no value in adding Anthony Slama to the 40 man roster. I would be shocked if he was selected in the Rule 5 draft.
      You just don't get it do you? Nobody is predicted he will be the next Dennis Eckersley. And those players you mentioned, never dominated on the leval that Slama has. All people are saying is he deserves a real chance. He deserved a chance earlier in the year, he deserved a chance after he came back from injury, and he deserves a chance now.

      So again, who cares what you or anybody else thinks his "upside" could be, the numbers he has put up year after year can not be ignored.
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Coach J View Post
      I am not one for conspiracy theories.. but there is something going on here. I am convinced the Twins are determined to keep Slama down because they don't want to be proven wrong. Gardy doesn't seem to be a fan of his and I think if Slama came up and was successful it would make a lot of people in the organization look pretty foolish. I just feel so terrible for Anthony.. if we are this mad, imagine how he feels.
      I know, right? I know little about the kind of person Slama is, but I can imagine him saying . . . "trade me for that damn box of rocks, then." It defies all rationality to do this to him unless they don't want to look like idiots OR have some master plan to just start the season next year with him . . .

      It is weird, but it is this situation and what it exemplifies that pushes me towards the "new blood" crowd and the pipe dream wish of firing TR, Gardy, and company (only new ownership would ever bring that about).
      Welcome to the Darkside, Shane.
      It took me awhile, but yeah. Minor league promotions, promotions to the MLB club, the payroll situation, and the medical situation have combined to make it closer and closer for me. This pushes me over.
    1. toma's Avatar
      toma -
      Quote Originally Posted by righty8383 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by toma View Post
      Dear Everyone,
      You are interested in adding a 28-year old right-handed reliever to the 40 man roster because....??? Isn't Slama's upside to be Alex Burnett and more likely projects to take the place of Casey Fien or Kyle Waldrop except both of those players have the advantage of being on the 40 man roster. Right handed relief at the lower levels is probably the easiest and cheapest pitchers to replace on the team. I see no value in adding Anthony Slama to the 40 man roster. I would be shocked if he was selected in the Rule 5 draft.
      You just don't get it do you? Nobody is predicted he will be the next Dennis Eckersley. And those players you mentioned, never dominated on the leval that Slama has. All people are saying is he deserves a real chance. He deserved a chance earlier in the year, he deserved a chance after he came back from injury, and he deserves a chance now.

      So again, who cares what you or anybody else thinks his "upside" could be, the numbers he has put up year after year can not be ignored.
      I agree, I don't care what I think. I care what you think. Let's say you were the GM of the Twins and you have one open 40 man roster spot. Looking at the current strengths and weaknesses on the roster, tell me why you think the most pressing need is to fill that spot with a 28-year old right handed reliever with very impressive numbers in the International League.
    1. Nick Nelson's Avatar
      Nick Nelson -
      Quote Originally Posted by toma View Post
      Let's say you were the GM of the Twins and you have one open 40 man roster spot. Looking at the current strengths and weaknesses on the roster, tell me why you think the most pressing need is to fill that spot with a 28-year old right handed reliever with very impressive numbers in the International League.
      You're right, better just to leave it open and not use it.
    1. righty8383's Avatar
      righty8383 -
      The most pressing need, that would be an overstatement but I get what you're saying.Just because he is 28 does not mean he has no value and no future. I have no clue how he might do in the bigs but this is the best time to find out. I will share this Terry Ryan quote one more time just in case you missed it...

      The types of guys we're talking about are guys who have earned the promotion from what they've done at Triple-A or Double-A.
      So let me ask, how did Eduardo Escobar "earn" a promotion but Slama didn't
    1. Shane Wahl's Avatar
      Shane Wahl -
      Quote Originally Posted by toma View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by righty8383 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by toma View Post
      Dear Everyone,
      You are interested in adding a 28-year old right-handed reliever to the 40 man roster because....??? Isn't Slama's upside to be Alex Burnett and more likely projects to take the place of Casey Fien or Kyle Waldrop except both of those players have the advantage of being on the 40 man roster. Right handed relief at the lower levels is probably the easiest and cheapest pitchers to replace on the team. I see no value in adding Anthony Slama to the 40 man roster. I would be shocked if he was selected in the Rule 5 draft.


      You just don't get it do you? Nobody is predicted he will be the next Dennis Eckersley. And those players you mentioned, never dominated on the leval that Slama has. All people are saying is he deserves a real chance. He deserved a chance earlier in the year, he deserved a chance after he came back from injury, and he deserves a chance now.

      So again, who cares what you or anybody else thinks his "upside" could be, the numbers he has put up year after year can not be ignored.
      I agree, I don't care what I think. I care what you think. Let's say you were the GM of the Twins and you have one open 40 man roster spot. Looking at the current strengths and weaknesses on the roster, tell me why you think the most pressing need is to fill that spot with a 28-year old right handed reliever with very impressive numbers in the International League.

      Leave it open for what reason? The last 3-4 spots should be a revolving door anyway.
    1. JP3700's Avatar
      JP3700 -
      I don't understand why some people are bashing Escobar and saying Dozier deserved to be called up. Out of the 5 tools, Escobar grades better in 3 categories and virtually even in the other 2. People laugh at Escobar's line at Rochester, but Dozier has been even worse since being optioned. That, after looking completely lost in his last 3 months in the majors.

      If I'm going to have a weak hitting middle infielder on my roster, I would rather have the one with better range, a better arm, more speed, and can actually get a bunt down to move a runner over. These qualities at least have some value to my team, for defense and situational hitting. Add the fact that Escobar is 2 years younger than Dozier! I think it makes a lot of sense that he was the one called up.
    1. peterb18's Avatar
      peterb18 -
      [QUOTE=Seth Stohs;51559]
      Quote Originally Posted by joeboo_22;51554As far as Slama, again as I have previously stated, I am not a big fan of his, I don't think he will become a MLB closer, but at the same time even an idiot would have to admit he warrants a September call-up on a last place team..[/QUOTE View Post

      I don't think any of us think that Slama will be a big league closer. His stuff has been questioned. His control is questionable. There are plenty of reasons not to believe he'll be great. However, at least my point is that, until big league hitters show it, he should at least be given a shot! Not 7 innings over 2 seasons of time, but a legit opportunity. We've seen the Twins give lots of guys with worse control an opportunity this year and last. He just deserves the chance.
      Seth has it exactly right. However, sometimes athletes have an ability to do something without the required fundamentals. Like a hockey player who doesn't skate well, etc. but, he can just put the puck into the net. Same with Slama--maybe there is something about him that he can just get people out! That is why he deserves a chance.
    1. Blackjack's Avatar
      Blackjack -
      Pretty interesting, almost humorous, reading the discussion on who was or wasn’t called up. All season long posters have wanted the Twins to make moves to get better but now they outraged because a guy (Slama) that everybody agrees is pretty average wasn’t rewarded. Which is it, make moves to get better or reward a minor leaguer?? There are only so many at bats and innings to pitch, use them on evaluating guys, so the front office knows what moves they need to make for 2013. Slama will get his chance in spring training, if he does well, he’ll go north with the team. Same way with Dozier, this snub will hopefully give him some motivation to work hard and make the team out of spring training.


      I’d rather see them promote and evaluate guys for 2013.
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