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Berardino: Twins place Milone and Fien on waviers

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http://www.twincitie...ien-on-waivers/   Whoa.  Saw Fien coming.  Did not see Milone

Scoggins gets little from Jim Pohlad

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This in from a conversation between Scoggins and Jim Pohlad. Something tells me this was not a comfortable conversation! But it does see...

Can Trevour Plouffe be flipped for a starting catcher?

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Purpose of moving Plouffe is to get Sano out of the outfield which I think would improve team chemistry. Catching has been the bane of th...

Skipping His Start?

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I just looked at the Twins starters for this weekend and early next week...please tell me the Twins brass is not going to skip Berrios' n...

Contest to Replace the Phrase "Electric Stuff"

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Let's make a pact today to retire the hackneyed McCarverism, "Electric Stuff." Post your alternative and let the Twins Daily faithful cho...


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New 25 man roster for 2015

Posted by Shane Wahl , 27 August 2014 · 689 views

I am recalibrating some of my thoughts for 2015. I think (now) that something like this should happen:

I would like the following to happen: the Twins refrain from spending big this offseason unless it is on one of the top 5 pitching free agents. So, no spending to replace LF. Wait and save. That means that money should be SAVED now in order to be spent when NEEDED when the team is competitive for real. Just finally, finally, go with the youth movement.
2015 opening day roster barring trades and injuries but dealing/releasing where noted (and I don't care about my consistency over the past month!):
C: Suzuki, Pinto, Herrmann
1B: Mauer, Vargas
2B: Dozier (Escobar, Santana, Beresford)
SS: Escobar (Santana, Beresford)
3B: Plouffe (Escobar, Beresford)
LF: Hicks (yes, Hicks), (Ortiz, Herrmann)
CF: Santana (until Buxton, then decisions need to be made), (Hicks)
RF: Arcia (Ortiz, Herrmann, Hicks)
DH: Vargas, (Pinto)
Bench (generally): Pinto, Herrmann, Beresford, Ortiz
Yep. Gone from this are Parmelee, Nunez, and Schafer. Trade for C level prospects who are under 22 and that is a win. All three of those guys could serve as major league bench players, but not for the Twins now.
Starting rotation:
Hughes
Gibson
Nolasco
Meyer (or Milone)
May (or Milone)
Bullpen:
I still would like some trading to be done as there is just no reason to pay Swarzak and Duensing any more money, for instance. Also, I am surprised Fien wasn't dealt, but for these purposes we will keep him.
Perkins
Fien
C. Johnson
Oliveros
Tonkin
Thielbar
Deduno/Darnell/K. Johnson
I also think Guerra and Achter could compete here. The big question is going to be: when do Burdi and Z. Jones arrive? Those two will serve as dominant setup men (and there needs to be another dominant lefty somewhere).

I absolutely refuse to believe that this team as is won't be pretty good. That is, 80+ win good. I would like to see the Twins now develop the young talent, see who fits and who doesn't and then spend quite lavishly eventually on where they need to do so.

I am pushing some guys here who many people might not like: Herrmann, Ortiz, and Beresford. But I prefer promoting those guys then adding in guys of similar value from the top on down (good lord . . . the Twins and their 4th OF adventures). Also, these guys are clearly also not deprived of value if they get sent back down to AAA when Buxton and Sano arrive. In such a scenario, Hicks might become the 4th OF, Santana moves to short, Escobar super utilities, and Plouffe utilities.

All in all, the rebuild is now close to full swing. Buxton, Sano, Rosario (where he fits, time will tell) Meyer, Burdi, and Z. Jones are the next wave.




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The Wise One
Aug 27 2014 03:32 AM

If the team is only 80 wins good the GM better keep working to see where he can find another 15 wins.Bullpen, LF, CF, 4OF,RF and number 1 starter all need better production. Althouh it has it's flaws, assume it is equally flawed for all teams for a minute and use WAR. The Twins will have 3 pitchers andmaybe 5 position players with a WAR above 2. There are no 5's For the Twins to be even a .500 team Vargas, Suzui,Escobar, Plouffe, and Santana have to prove that 2013 was not a fluke. Mauer in the oposite direction has to prove that 2013 was a fluke.

You are correct for starting pitcing that the only addition should be a toparm.

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LewFordLives
Aug 27 2014 07:02 AM

No strong disagreements with your list, although It'll be hard to stand pat on a starting rotation that is among the worst in baseball. As of now it's Hughes and a big bag full of question marks.

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Tough to hang with this roster, however promising it may appear, with 90+ losses again.  I know it's a different group than the first 90+ losses, but at some point, you gotta be bold...standing pat, just seems, so, wrong.  No stats or anything to back it up, but I can't think patience is a good virtue here, especially when prospects can be become injured/suspects so quickly.  If anything goes wrong with the guys up here now, they could easily hit a 100 loses.

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If the team is only 80 wins good the GM better keep working to see where he can find another 15 wins.Bullpen, LF, CF, 4OF,RF and number 1 starter all need better production. Althouh it has it's flaws, assume it is equally flawed for all teams for a minute and use WAR. The Twins will have 3 pitchers andmaybe 5 position players with a WAR above 2. There are no 5's For the Twins to be even a .500 team Vargas, Suzui,Escobar, Plouffe, and Santana have to prove that 2013 was not a fluke. Mauer in the oposite direction has to prove that 2013 was a fluke.

You are correct for starting pitcing that the only addition should be a toparm.

 

I assume you mean 2014

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