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Your Twins team - the batters : is this good enough?

Posted by mikelink45 , 15 December 2018 · 1,189 views

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Your Twins team - the batters :  is this good enough? I was curious where we stand as a team - right now. Since the fast and furious signings seem to be in a lull (facetious statement). Let's put the team on the field as they are now composed and see how they stack up using their 2018 WAR and the Total Zone Fielding Runs above average and the 2019 projection - all from Baseball Reference



WAR RTOT Projection
Polanco SS 1.5 , -2 270/329/415
Rosario LF 3.6 -10 278/319/464
Cron 1B 2 4 253/316/455
Sano 3B -0.5 -2 239/322/452
Austin DH 0.5 236/301/446
Cave CF 1.5 -2 259/317/455
Kepler RF 2.8 16 235/317/419
Schoop 2B 1.4 1 259/302/448
Castro C 2.5 3 222/309/370 using 2017 numbers

Adrianza U 0.4 -3 249/307/385
Buxton CF -0.3 3 237/297.393
Garver C 0.9 -16 254/325/407
Torreyes U 0.3 - 2 270/312/384


What do you think? 16.6 WAR total. RTOT - 16. Can we hit, can we field? I will look at the pitchers a little later. I just need to digest what these totals tell us. Our does this all hinge on Sano and Buxton like I talked about in -

Do we need more or do we look forward to another year with the moves that are made?
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I think Kepler should be moved into the 2 hole...he takes some pretty quality ABs and sees a lot of pitches...BB% is decent too. Then just shift everyone else down one. Although, I think Buck is your starting CF over Cave. Planco Kepler Rosario Cron Sano Austin Schoop Castro Buxton
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Lee-The-Twins-Fan
Dec 15 2018 03:48 PM

Hopefully Buxton and Sano are healthy and honed for the 2019 season. they will be starting. Cave and Austin will be on the bench – if on the team at all (maybe Austin). 

 

We need an on-base hitter, with some power. I actually think this is a higher priority than pitching, although we need some of that too. Nelson Cruz would be my first choice, but that might not happen. The Twins' brass seems willing to wait out free agents, hoping the same thing happens in ealry 2019 that happened in early 2018, with the prices for free agents falling. Lance Lynn signed a one year $12 million deal with the Twins then; now he's signed a 3 year, $30 million deal with Texas.

 

I also hope our other 'long shots' Schoop and Torreyes pay off.

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I think Kepler should be moved into the 2 hole...he takes some pretty quality ABs and sees a lot of pitches...BB% is decent too. Then just shift everyone else down one. Although, I think Buck is your starting CF over Cave. Planco Kepler Rosario Cron Sano Austin Schoop Castro Buxton

I thought about putting Buxton in starting, but I am not sure of the teams approach and his need to earn his spot back.He makes them better fielding, Cave makes them better hitting. 

I am not an expert at the analytical data, but wouldn't fielding be included in the WAR number already, so this would then sort of doubling up on the fielding end of things, which weren't impressive to start with.

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I am not an expert at the analytical data, but wouldn't fielding be included in the WAR number already, so this would then sort of doubling up on the fielding end of things, which weren't impressive to start with.

Yes it is included in WAR, but I want to make sure we recognize that we have a problem that is more than batting.We need to have better gloves too if our pitchers are going to have a chance. 

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LA VIkes Fan
Dec 16 2018 10:09 PM

 

I think Kepler should be moved into the 2 hole...he takes some pretty quality ABs and sees a lot of pitches...BB% is decent too. Then just shift everyone else down one. Although, I think Buck is your starting CF over Cave. Planco Kepler Rosario Cron Sano Austin Schoop Casro Buxton

Kepler can't hit #2 on a decent or better team - the man hit .224 last year with a .727 OPS and that's in line with the previous two years. The only #2 spot he should have is the second seat on the bench. 

 

Seriously though, I don't understand the love that Kepler gets on this site. He Has had 1500 plus ABs in the last 3 years. His OPS those three years - .734, .737., .727.A quality corner OF should have at least a .775 or better OPS. How about his OPS+ - 96, 95, 96, aka belwo average. HIs oWAR - 1.6, 1.5, 1.7 - Total WAR for the last 3 years - 6.9 because of his defense. Barely good enough to start if 2 is the low end starter. Look, I hope he improves and becomes what we all want him to become, but right now we know what he is or at least has been so far. He's a good fielding OF with some power who hits for a low average and a low OBP. He is the defnition of a 4th OF. This team needs to get better and RF is one of the spots where we need to get better.  

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Your total of 16+ War is based on Sano and Buxton having the worst year anyone could have thought of.Improvement from those 2, plus improvement from the rest of the team could easily bring us to at least 24 and quite possibly much higher.  

This is the SSS that everyone talks about.Last year was the perfect storm, if you assume this number is the skill level, then your base point should be a total cleanout of the Twins office and a start over from scratch.This would be almost unheard of in baseball. (I mean firing the FO, most of the analytical department, about 1/2 the scouts and almost all of the minor league managers and coaches for not knowing their jobs). 

 

Your total of 16+ War is based on Sano and Buxton having the worst year anyone could have thought of.Improvement from those 2, plus improvement from the rest of the team could easily bring us to at least 24 and quite possibly much higher.  

This is the SSS that everyone talks about.Last year was the perfect storm, if you assume this number is the skill level, then your base point should be a total cleanout of the Twins office and a start over from scratch.This would be almost unheard of in baseball. (I mean firing the FO, most of the analytical department, about 1/2 the scouts and almost all of the minor league managers and coaches for not knowing their jobs). 

I merely added all their WAR scores and gave you the total.I am not predicting.Then you have the Baseball Reference projections - I do not know how much WAR that would earn, but it is not outstanding.Unless we get everyone really on top of their game we are a 500 team.I cannot predict a breakout from Sano, I can only wish it would happen.He now has a track record that is not very good.