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How our ex-Twins are doing - do want any back?

Posted by mikelink45 , 23 June 2018 · 1,145 views

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How our ex-Twins are doing - do want any back? Where are they now is not about old and retired, but the players on current rosters who at one time were on the Twins Roster. Just curious how they are succeeding and if we wish we had any of them back. Here are the hitters with their stats after the Solstice:

I chose BA, OPS, and WAR for the comparative stats:

Aaron Hicks, Yankees, 251 BA, 811OPS, 1.7 WAR
Danny Valencia, Orioles 290, 822, 1.2
Wilson Ramos, Tampa Bay, 296, 796, 1.5
Carlos Gomez, Tampa Bay, 197, 609, -0.5
John Hicks, Detroit, 279, 759, 0.4
Niko Goodrum, Detroit, 244, 786, 1.1
Denard Span, Mariners, 292, 784, 0.3
Kendrys Morales, Blue Jays, 245, 714, -0.2
Danny Santana, Braves, 667, 1.750, 0.1 (yes sss)
Kurt Suzuki, Braves, 279, 821, 1.4
Pedro Florimon, Phillies, 263, 814, 0.5
Chris Giminez, Cubs, 130, 353, -0.1
John Ryan Murphy, Diamondbacks, 239, 769, 0.7

Do you want any of them back? Collective WAR - 8.1

Teams that chose to have an ex-Twin pitching did not do as well. I have made my list simple, W - L, ERA.

Jaimie Garcia, Blue Jays, 2 – 6, 8.16 ERA
Blaine Boyer, Royals 2 – 9, 11.76
Liam Hendricks, A’s 0 – 0, 4.50
Bartolo Colon, Texas, 4 – 4, 4.91
Annibel Sanchez, Reds, 3 – 3 2.55
Brian Kintzler, Nationals, 1 -2, 13 holds, 4.45
Randy Rosario, Cubs, 3 – 0, 1.76
Brian Duensing, Cubs, 1 – 3, 4.50
Anthony Swarkzak, Mets, 0 – 1, 3.48
Phil Hughes, Padres, 0 – 0, 6.23

The only surprise is how well Rosario is doing. The Twins gave him a too young, too short try, and then DFA's him. The Cubs saw something they liked. Would you trade Belisle to get him?

Who would you have back? And if you can trade one for one, who would he replace?

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I'd want Ramos as my C. I have no regrets about the trade. Capps did his job at the end of 2010: 2-0/16 Saves/2.00 ERA. Enjoyed every minute of it. Meanwhile, Ramos averaged less than 2.0 WAR over six seasons with the Nationals. Would've helped very little. And he'd already be gone from the Twins as a free agent. 

 

I'll take Hicks in the OF. 

 

Rosario has had a good 15 IP for the Cubs. Underlying info isn't great: less than 6 K/9 and a ragged 4.7 BB/9. I wish him luck. With that walk rate, he's going to need it.

 

I do not want to return Escobar for Liriano (Tigers AAA). 

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I really wanted the team to keep Goodrum. I really thought he had a chance to be an unspectacular but very solid and versatile bench player. Maybe the ideal 25th man. The guy the Twins wanted DanSan to be.

I wasn't crazy about the chicks for Murphy trade as I felt there was a lot of untapped potential there. But I was rather "meh" as Hicks looked lost, the Twins needed some catching depth, and Murphy looked like a decent get at the time. I think we just flat out lost that trade. It happens. Stinks, but it happens.

Thought we gave up on Rosario too soon. Time will tell.

On a much smaller scale, I was really disappointed to let John Hicks slip away. He was the kind of player I wanted to sign over Wilson this past off season.

Really, anyone else on the list isn't worth worrying about. Not that they are necessarily good or bad, but, regretting Span after so long a time is lime the White Sox regretting Escobar. After a time, it just is what it is.
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I want Aaron Hicks, Danny Valencia, Wilson Ramos, Niko Goodrum and Randy Rosario.

They can take LaMarre, Motter, Wilson, Adrianza and Belisle from us. 

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I really wanted the team to keep Goodrum. I really thought he had a chance to be an unspectacular but very solid and versatile bench player. Maybe the ideal 25th man. The guy the Twins wanted DanSan to be.

I wasn't crazy about the chicks for Murphy trade as I felt there was a lot of untapped potential there. But I was rather "meh" as Hicks looked lost, the Twins needed some catching depth, and Murphy looked like a decent get at the time. I think we just flat out lost that trade. It happens. Stinks, but it happens.

Thought we gave up on Rosario too soon. Time will tell.

On a much smaller scale, I was really disappointed to let John Hicks slip away. He was the kind of player I wanted to sign over Wilson this past off season.

Really, anyone else on the list isn't worth worrying about. Not that they are necessarily good or bad, but, regretting Span after so long a time is lime the White Sox regretting Escobar. After a time, it just is what it is.

At least we do not have Ortiz to bug us any more.

 

 

I want Aaron Hicks, Danny Valencia, Wilson Ramos, Niko Goodrum and Randy Rosario.

They can take LaMarre, Motter, Wilson, Adrianza and Belisle from us. 

Please arrange that multi-team trade.I am all for it.

 

Getting a second chance to have Ramos back would be ideal. That's almost a no-brainer. I like Goodrum's versatility, but not sure how much he would play on this current team. Still, Call me crazy but I'd love to see Colon still on the team, if only for his colorful personality and dependability. And I'd love to take back that Aaron Hicks trade and get him back too.

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Getting a second chance to have Ramos back would be ideal. That's almost a no-brainer. I like Goodrum's versatility, but not sure how much he would play on this current team. Still, Call me crazy but I'd love to see Colon still on the team, if only for his colorful personality and dependability. And I'd love to take back that Aaron Hicks trade and get him back too.

The hard part about Ramos is that we have to live with the memory of Capps. 

 

What did we get for these Players -

Ramos for Matt Capps - almost as painful as remembering Ortiz.

 

As we watch LaMarre and Grossman and others in the outfield we have to remember that we Got Ryan Murphy for Aaron Hicks.

 

We got Jeremias Pineda for Danny Valencia.

 

Alex Meyer came for Span.

 

That is about it unless we remember Ben Revere got us Worley and May.At least May has given us lost of speculation even if the results do not amount to much.

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tarheeltwinsfan
Jun 24 2018 03:01 PM

 

Call me crazy but I'd love to see Colon still on the team, if only for his colorful personality and dependability. 

Crazy!

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Anyone of the catchers would be an upgrade.
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The Capps trade was bad as Ramos would've been the perfect catcher to take Mauer's place and still be catching today (albeit out a year with an injury). He was heir apparant and would've taken over duties sooner rather than later.

 

Goodrum showed potential and if you stayed in-house would've been the good backup infielder.

 

That cpre of centerfielders that departed: Gomez, Revere, Span and Hicks. Sadly, we basically got NOTHING in return for them that could be contributing to the team, which is a shame, unless Trevor May really comes back. Shows how much stock you should put in prospects.

 

Rosario will come back to earth, but why the Twins allowed him to pass into waivers is beyond me.

 

Also, was sad the Twins didn't break camp with John Hicks and allowed him to go thru waivers, too.

 

 

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