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Sano and Judge

Posted by mikelink45 , 06 May 2018 · 1,639 views

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Sano and Judge I posted the following comment in the discussion of Lynn’s White Sox game:
When I look at the lineup I see such a gap at 4.The guys filling in the 3 - 4 - 5 spots are doing great, but with Morrison still trying to find the Mendoza line we really need Sano to give us a big bat.Of course we need a Sano who learns to strikeout a lot less.When I look at the Yankees big boppers you can see how it really changes the game, but they also have a better approach.

Sano with 506 Ks in 1220 ABs wastes so many opportunities. Judge has 294 ks in 748 ABs. If Ks were hits Sano would have a 414 average and Judge 393. But Judge has an OPS of 989 career and Sano 837.Miquel has the potential, but so far he is most effective at getting on the DL rather than the bases.

This seems to be the new baseball – at least for now – Relief pitchers, Ks, and HRs. It is not the baseball I enjoy.
Then I went to ESPN and found an essay by Buster Olney that I found a perfect compliment to what I am trying to convey:

“Fact: A starting pitcher facing a lineup for a third time or fourth time will experience a decline in performance, generally. As a result, starters are getting pulled from games earlier than ever.

Fact: Relief pitchers are throwing at a higher velocity than ever, diminishing hitters' chances to put the ball in play.

Fact: As it has become more difficult to generate hits against higher velocity and defensive shifts, hitters are taking more aggressive swings, at higher launch angles, in an effort to lift the ball. This approach is generating more homers and, apparently, rocket-fueling the pace of strikeouts.

Some executives who have followed the numbers and helped design the dramatic changes to the sport are OK with the big swings, big flies and big whiffs. “I’ve got no problem with it,” one club official said the other day. “We’re just trying to adapt and win ballgames.”

But a lot of executives abhor the Frankenstein monster that the numbers and science have helped create, with the dueling parades of relief pitchers and increasingly overpowered hitters. “I hate it,” one high-ranking evaluator said. “It’s just not that fun to watch.” http://www.espn.com/...broken-baseball

I chose Judge and Sano to compare because they represent the new approach, but one has been much better at it than the other. Sano has both the K and the DL as issues – the most games he has appeared in during his Twins career is 71% of the season. He has collected 5.5 WAR in 4 seasons, Judge has 9.3 in three seasons. My problem is, that I think Sano has as much potential as Judge. How do we get him to realize it?

In an era where the big K and big HR totals are everywhere the player that succeeds is the one with fewer Ks and more HRs or else establishes his ability in other stats. Sano has 76 HRs in 330 games, Judge has 64 in 215 games. Judge beats Sano in OPS, but more important as a Twin fan – Sano set his OPS bar in year one and has come no where close to it since.

Baseball is worried about length of game, but it should be worried about the action that keeps fans attention from inning to inning. Waiting for a K or HR is boring - Last year “117 batters hitting 20 or more homers -- far more than in 2001, in the height of the steroid era, when 88 hitters clubbed 20 or more homers, and far more than in 2011, when 68 hitters got to the 20-homer mark.”

At the same time starting pitchers are pitching less – an Ace is still only a 5 or 6 inning arm. Do we really enjoy a parade of relief pitchers? I would love to see the manager limited to three per game. I am also out of touch with many in that I love the 300+ hitter more than the 20 HR hitters. And I liked the SB and all the moves that involved both bat control and speed.

I would like Sano back, but I would also like an improved approach.

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This! This! This! A point on the shift. It's diminished the value and entertainment of watching an elite SS. And a good catcher throwing to second was always fun to watch. I am sure there are fans who like this new brand of ball? Maybe it's generational, maybe the young fans do? But I don't. I don't really mind the RP, and the strategy of their use. And I can also see the effort to combat the shift with long fly balls. But I agree totally with you on the matter of whether this is good for the fan or not. And for this fan it's not.
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May 07 2018 07:28 AM
The amount of strikeouts is sickening and boring. Everybody loves the home runs. It just seems MLB becomes more like beer league slow pitch softball With the lack of other interesting plays that are not HRs. I wonder how a team like the 1980s Cardinals would perform in today's climate.
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I don't mind the strike-outs that much.That doesn't mean that the game wouldn't be in a bit of a better spot if strike-out rates came down a bit.Or at least quite growing exponentially.But, I see the strike-outs as a symptom, not the disease.


The disease is that players are getting to the major leagues with one-dimensional offensive tool-sets.It's as if there's a new rule somewhere that says you have to try to lift and drive the ball every swing you take?No, the rule is that all players must employ the same officially-sanctioned swing...always.No matter the pitcher, no matter the pitch, no matter the count, no matter the game situation, no matter the defense, no matter where I bat in the lineup...we're going to stand there and take our one-and-only perfect-plane swing looking to drive and lift the ball;that swing that has been coached to perfection since the age of 4...by a generation of coaches that have all read the same white paper on hitting (probably made worse by the fact that American coaches have now infiltrated...otherwise known as "organized" the central american youth ranks).


Until such a point arrives in the evolution of baseball where bunting, putting the ball in play, hitting the other way, do not materially impact the winning/losing of games...even in 10% of at-bat scenarios..then, this is a problem.

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