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  1. darin617's Avatar
    Nishioka gave his salary back. The Twins save $3.25M. Now only if Joe Mauer does this for the last 2 years of his contract.
  2. beckmt's Avatar
    This does not clear room for the up and coming outfielders. I can buy into the fact the Twins will sign one FA starter, but believe they will trade for one or two starters.
  3. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    I don't know if Slama is in the doghouse. I don't know how he possibly could be. I mean . . . Alexi Casilla still got significant playing time this year!

    I don't know what the Twins WILL do, but that is not the point of this. This is what they SHOULD do.
  4. old nurse's Avatar
    On a recent post I mentioned a Gardenhire fault called a doghouse. Slama is in it. Therefore unless he is lights out awesome, he will be elsewhere.

    Quickly, as I have to get back to work, The Twins may sign one legit starter and probably a reclaimation project. To want two is reasonable. To get two is another. A Pino/Lawton type of player for a short term starter is more like what they will do
    Updated 09-28-2012 at 04:33 AM by old nurse
  5. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    I don't consider him a RF, no. I cannot believe this approach they are taking with him. This year was just WEIRD in the way he was treated. Anyway, his long-term future is not in RF. It's at 1B and DH. If things go well in the system, Parmelee will be a BENCH player (Sano moving to first . . . . ) or a DH.
  6. Don't Feed the Greed Guy's Avatar
    Shane,
    You don't mention Chris Parmelee in your outfield projection. He's batting .375 with three home runs and eight rbi's in the last nine games. It may be that you've slotted him in as the heir apparent at first base, but Gardy has been putting him in right field lately. How does he fit into your outfield, if at all?
    Don't Feed the Greed
  7. old nurse's Avatar
    I guess this proves that it is easier to find corner outfielders than pitchers, catchers and imiddle infielders. Then again Norwood, Powell, and Bombo proved that you can never have enough prospects.
  8. Jeff P's Avatar
    I would have thought JD Williams would have done better, he definitely would have been on my list for a breakout season at the beginning of the year. Hopefully he picks it up next year, with all the guys coming up from E Town, he could get lost in the shuffle real quick.
  9. IdahoPilgrim's Avatar
    I'm not opposed to giving him a chance - at this point, why not? I do believe, though, that statistics can be misleading. Hendriks has great stats in AAA and has not been able to perform in MLB. Parmelee has great stats in AAA, but let's not forget he started the season with the big club and was sent down for non-performance. I believe both will be back, but it does show that there is a gap between AAA performance and MLB performance. Somehow that has to be evaluated, and some will bridge that gap and some won't, and I'll leave it to others better trained than I to evalute which camp each players falls into.
  10. Jim H's Avatar
    I wouldn't mind seeing Slama up this September but some of you conspiracy theorists who claim to follow the minors very closely, you realize that Slama has been hurt for large portions of the last 2(this year and 20ll) seasons? Also when he has been healthy and effective, there has been little immediate need for his skills.

    In addition to that, he appears to be largely a one inning reliever(based on how he has been used in the minors and the fact he throws a lot of pitches in each appearance). That would tend to limit his opportunities at the big league level. For example in the latest call up the Twins brought up Waltrip because he is more of a multi-inning type reliever. Slama will likely need to used as a one inning specialist or a guy to get righthanders out in the 6th-7th or 8th innings.

    Every team in baseball had a chance to claim Slama when he was removed from the 40 man roster. That doesn't mean he doesn't deserve an opportunity, but it does mean he isn't a prized prospect. Slama will likely get another opportunity to pitch in the majors, perhaps with the Twins, perhaps not. Some marginal guys do succeed in the majors and I hope Slama is one them, but I do not think there is some sort of goofy conspiracy by Twins brass to kkep him out of the majors.
  11. Steer's Avatar
    Somebody in the brass section is very stubborn.
  12. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    They are show sure of themselves that they need no ML evidence or they don't want him to succeed and make them look bad for doing this to him for so long. Neither one of those options makes the Twins look good. Slama's ceiling is probably a Jared Burton replacement, but that would mean Burton could be or could have been traded.
  13. Thrylos's Avatar
    I don't get it either. Maybe Slama used to play practical jokes on Toby or something. And about the age old "axiom" that some people can strike out AA and AAA hitters but not MLB hitters, all I have to say is that the MLB hitters were AA and AAA hitters at some point. I don't have much faith on the Twins' player evaluators. They dropped the ball way too many times recently.
  14. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by righty8383
    Reading the last paragraph in this sentence, normally I would call that an extreme view reserved for the most cinical of Twins fans. But honestly, the case of Anthony Slama has me thinking on the same lines. If I were to meet Terry Ryan I think the 1st thing I would ask is "what the hell does Anthony Slama have to do to get a chance with the big club?"
    I know! It is really cynical, but I just don't get it at all. There is no reason not to give him 20 innings this year just to see if he does get rocked as they believe he will. But even a halving of that 15 k/9 would be a major improvement for the bullpen.
  15. righty8383's Avatar
    Reading the last paragraph in this sentence, normally I would call that an extreme view reserved for the most cinical of Twins fans. But honestly, the case of Anthony Slama has me thinking on the same lines. If I were to meet Terry Ryan I think the 1st thing I would ask is "what the hell does Anthony Slama have to do to get a chance with the big club?"
  16. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    And it's a perception based on what? Clearly not evidence.
  17. OldManWinter's Avatar
    It seems to me in the highly competitive world of MLB it is improbable that Slama, or any other player for that matter, is held down for reasons except the perception that a player cannot compete.

    Teams cannot afford the luxury of making roster decisions to protect the egos of their management.

    I am not big on conspiratorial theories.
  18. Thrylos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by shanewahl
    I am really not down with trading more than one of the Twins core, unless there are established replacements. Parmelee's AAA numbers are ridiculous. I am more confident that he could at least put up his 2011 NBR numbers in the majors. That's worthy of trading Morneau for a good pitcher. However, I don't really see Revere as Span's replacement any longer given they were so effective *together* in the lineup. But I am NOT comfortable with replacing him with a AA player yet. How could I? Revere needed time in AAA. Clearly Parmelee did too. Hicks and Arcia in AAA to begin the year next year and maybe by June a Span trade would be a good idea (as long as there are no injuries to Willingham or Revere at that point).
    That is the proverbial rock and hard place between which the Twins find themselves:

    If they do not trade Span they do not have the Starting Pitching to win or be competitive (unless they trade prospects - ain't happening - or they go crazy in the free agent market -ain't happening either.)

    so

    If they are not going to win (or be competitive), I see no harm in playing Hicks and/or Arcia every day.

    If a Span (and a Willingham) trade brings 2-3 good high A or AA level arms, the Twins would be nuts not to go with an OF of Revere/Hicks/Arcia and look full force into 2014. And they might even surprise in 2013.

    The biggest problem would be if they (again) do a half-baked effort
  19. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    I am really not down with trading more than one of the Twins core, unless there are established replacements. Parmelee's AAA numbers are ridiculous. I am more confident that he could at least put up his 2011 NBR numbers in the majors. That's worthy of trading Morneau for a good pitcher. However, I don't really see Revere as Span's replacement any longer given they were so effective *together* in the lineup. But I am NOT comfortable with replacing him with a AA player yet. How could I? Revere needed time in AAA. Clearly Parmelee did too. Hicks and Arcia in AAA to begin the year next year and maybe by June a Span trade would be a good idea (as long as there are no injuries to Willingham or Revere at that point).

    Point taken back on Marcum.
  20. beckmt's Avatar
    For all the comments on Marcum - he was a sucess in Toronto! Like the idea. Morneau's best fit is with the Dodgers. Tampa Bay is too much a small market team for that move, Texas or Seattle would be the other spots. Span's landing points could be Cinn, LA Dodgers, Tampa Bay, Arizona or Washington. All these teams have excess pitching(though getting them to give it up may be difficult. Not totally sold on Parmalee, much more in line with trading an outfielder. Would hate to give up Willingham, but for a Major League ready starter and a decent prospect would live with it.
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