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  1. Tibs's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Boone
    Great point about this being a potential indicator of New Britain having poor defense. There are 9 Rock Cats pitchers with at least 20 innings pitched and 6 of them are in the top 25 for highest BABIP (minimum of 20 innings pitched, 104 players qualify). This is a really large number, especially when you consider the fact that in the 12 team Eastern League, each team should have just 2.

    It seems unlikely that so many Rock Cats pitchers would be this unlucky so far. Almost surely a sign of poor defense.
    What do the well-hit averages and LD% look like for Rogers and Salcedo? I'm not a fan of looking at just FIP and BABIP and saying someone is unlucky because sometimes pitchers just aren't performing well and hitters are teeing off on them.

    However, with this post that I quoted, it would seem that you can attribute at least some of the numbers to bad luck and poor defense.
  2. Boone's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jimv2
    The thought occurs to me that high opposing BABIPs can be caused by poor fielding--poor range especially. When you have two pitchers with extraordinarily high opposing BABIPs on the same team, that may be a bit of indictment of the NB defense. OTOH, I'm not convinced that any of the non-pitchers on that team are in the Twins' long-term plans.
    Great point about this being a potential indicator of New Britain having poor defense. There are 9 Rock Cats pitchers with at least 20 innings pitched and 6 of them are in the top 25 for highest BABIP (minimum of 20 innings pitched, 104 players qualify). This is a really large number, especially when you consider the fact that in the 12 team Eastern League, each team should have just 2.

    It seems unlikely that so many Rock Cats pitchers would be this unlucky so far. Almost surely a sign of poor defense.
  3. Lonestar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp
    Nice entry. It's easy to overlook these types of performances because their stats don't look very good at first glance.
    What he said. I was aware of Kepler's numbers but those pitchers surprised me. Well done.
  4. jimv2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp
    Nice entry. It's easy to overlook these types of performances because their stats don't look very good at first glance.
    I agree--very good stuff.

    The thought occurs to me that high opposing BABIPs can be caused by poor fielding--poor range especially. When you have two pitchers with extraordinarily high opposing BABIPs on the same team, that may be a bit of indictment of the NB defense. OTOH, I'm not convinced that any of the non-pitchers on that team are in the Twins' long-term plans.
  5. Brock Beauchamp's Avatar
    Nice entry. It's easy to overlook these types of performances because their stats don't look very good at first glance.
  6. beckmt's Avatar
    Will have to prove himself in AAA next year to get my vote.
  7. John Bonnes's Avatar
    Really interesting analysis. It's very heartening to see these trends appear when you look further into the numbers. I'll admit - prior to reading this, I didn't have a lot of hope for Santana.
  8. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
    Thank you for the article. Lots of information.

    I believe something significant must come to pass before Danny is our 'franchise shortstop'. All the best to him.
  9. SurroundedByTigers's Avatar
    What positions do these guys play anyway? Just simple facts would clarify this for the average Twins follower.
  10. AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS's Avatar
    Great information. It would be really nice to see Pinto get some time in September. Doumit was a great story last year but has no future with the Twins. Nice to see Trevor Mays stats really improving after a rough April. One thing that stands out for may is the lower WHIP. He still needs to have a little more control.
  11. stringer bell's Avatar
    I've been on the Pinto bandwagon for the long ride this season. He certainly isn't getting the publicity he might if the Twins didn't have Sano and Buxton. A promotion to Rochester has to happen and seeing some big league time makes sense to me. Trade Doumit and ride with Josmil!
  12. THE DFC's Avatar
    Nicely done, Boone. Thanks for this post.
  13. Thegrin's Avatar
    I expect to see Rosario with the Twins in 2014.
  14. Brad Swanson's Avatar
    Nice breakdown! I remember that Jason Parks tweeted that he was unimpressed with Rosario's defense when he saw him earlier this summer. However, Rosario's bat is going to play somewhere, even if second base isn't in his ultimate future. Plus, he's athletic enough to make it work. I'm hopeful, but it's nice to know that he's a hitter no matter where you put him.
  15. howieramone's Avatar
    Good job Boone. I would have guessed Wong.:)
  16. The Wise One's Avatar
    The interesting delema for the sellers is what to sell. You really can't sell of what you hope to build around unless you are wanting to start all over again.
    How many years have the Cubs wanted to get rid of the Soriano contract?
    Is Miami going to try to build around Stanton?
    How many of the older players do the White Sox get rid of? What can they bring in return. Isn't it about the same team that stayed near Detroit last year? Change of scenery do some of them good?
    The spare parts from most of the team will not help win a championship. Fading players are available. The buyer will hope the chase for a champion will elevate the older player's game.
  17. jorgenswest's Avatar
    Great context.

    Let's hope it means better return. Did you seek any other years that appeared to be buyer heavy?

    It might be interesting to do a count of top 100 prospects changing hands compared to the numbers of buyers (needs definition) for each year.

    Probably too much labor. An alpha list of prospects rankings going back to at least 1990 is on baseball cube's site.
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