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  1. JB_Iowa's Avatar
    Great column, JC.

    I was really glad to see that he played well fo the Miracle last night. While it doesn't seem like he needs it, I'm sure that "cup of coffee" was just a little more incentive.
  2. jokin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SD Buhr
    I think expectations locally were such that everybody knew it would not be a line up that measured up to last year's, but yes, it's been a letdown to this point.

    I do think there is more talent in CR than what they've shown. The starting pitching, outside of Stewart, was simply expected to be much better than it has been. I'm not sure there's a lot of help in that area still to be had outside of perhaps Gonsalves. By and large, the guys here now are going to have to simply pitch better.

    Not sure on Williams. He got off to a hot start his first couple games and then faltered.

    I'll be surprised if we see Gordon this year. More likely he starts in CR next year, as Buxton did. Then again, he's starting a level higher than Buck did, so who knows?

    I do know the Twins like Engelb Vielma, the current CR shortstop, and I imagine they want him to get regular ABs.
    I know it's too soon, but I'll ask anyway, with Gordon in the pipeline, does Engleb look like a future utility type, or do the Twins run both of these guys at SS up the organization simultaneously? What would it take for Vielma to force Polanco back to long-term at 2nd Base?
  3. SD Buhr's Avatar
    I think expectations locally were such that everybody knew it would not be a line up that measured up to last year's, but yes, it's been a letdown to this point.

    I do think there is more talent in CR than what they've shown. The starting pitching, outside of Stewart, was simply expected to be much better than it has been. I'm not sure there's a lot of help in that area still to be had outside of perhaps Gonsalves. By and large, the guys here now are going to have to simply pitch better.

    Not sure on Williams. He got off to a hot start his first couple games and then faltered.

    I'll be surprised if we see Gordon this year. More likely he starts in CR next year, as Buxton did. Then again, he's starting a level higher than Buck did, so who knows?

    I do know the Twins like Engelb Vielma, the current CR shortstop, and I imagine they want him to get regular ABs.
  4. jokin's Avatar
    Great write-up, JC. Has to be a little bit of letdown for local fans after last season's success.

    What happened to JDs numbers in May- compared to last season? Perhaps there is more pitching help coming besides Burdi, in addition to the bats you mentioned? Is there a LH arm that has any projectability? And maybe Gordon gets hot in E-Town and gets an early call? But really, in the end result, it looks to me like there just aren't enough guys who project to climb much higher in the system.
  5. OleJC's Avatar
    Love this idea, and would love a AAA club nearby too. But rather than Fargo/Moorhead, I was thinking Sioux Falls. Decent sized city, closer to Omaha for a nice little rivarly. Plus a nice little bonus for those of us in SW Minnesota!
  6. strumdatjag's Avatar
    Another idea: Move the Twins AAA affiliate to Fargo-Moorhead, which has a similar population in its metro area to Rochester. It's general geographic area has fewer people, but the local fans are Twins fans already and would probably have more interest in a Twins affiliate than those who live in Upstate New York. Moreover, a few of those fans of the Fargo affiliate would then be encouraged to see the players they followed at Target Field both on TV (better ratings) and on a few extra trips to the big league park. Maybe a few Twin Cities fans would go to Fargo to catch a game. The Team would play in the Pacific Coast League with teams from Des Moines, Omaha . . . Leave the low A team in Cedar Rapids.
  7. SD Buhr's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jokin
    Veeck has some deep-pocket backers and always finds a way to stay viable. It seems to me that as much as this area loves building new stadiums, the new St Paul stadium can be quickly upgraded to AAA standards, and that getting a AAA team in St Paul is the ultimate goal.
    Upgrading the stadium to AAA would require, among other things, seating expanded to 10,000+.

    I'm not sure the Twins would want their AAA club across the river. In down years at Target Field, a AAA team in St. Paul could potentially canibalize attendance in ways that an indy team doesn't and a Class A team wouldn't.

    And the Saints couldn't go shopping for a different MLB affiliate the way other minor league teams can because the only way they (or anyone) can put an affiliated team anywhere close to Minneapolis is if the Twins waive their territorial restriction rights. The Twins certainly would not do that for any team they weren't affiliated with.
  8. jokin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosterman
    It is just talk. The logistics would be a pain, and the Twins would basically be taking over the new Saints stadium. It would've fun for us fans, with enough levels of play between major and minor.

    What concerns me more is that we are building this stadium in St. Paul and sounds like the Saints aren't a longterm deal (or indy ball baseball). That is what is scary. What kinda team or baseball will be in this new stadium in the years too come.
    Veeck has some deep-pocket backers and always finds a way to stay viable. It seems to me that as much as this area loves building new stadiums, the new St Paul stadium can be quickly upgraded to AAA standards, and that getting a AAA team in St Paul is the ultimate goal.
  9. Rosterman's Avatar
    It is just talk. The logistics would be a pain, and the Twins would basically be taking over the new Saints stadium. It would've fun for us fans, with enough levels of play between major and minor.

    What concerns me more is that we are building this stadium in St. Paul and sounds like the Saints aren't a longterm deal (or indy ball baseball). That is what is scary. What kinda team or baseball will be in this new stadium in the years too come.
  10. DJL44's Avatar
    I see Rochester, MN as a much more viable Midwest League location due to the closer proximity but they would need to build the stadium.
  11. JB_Iowa's Avatar
    Great article, JC.

    To some extent, I view this as typical St. Peter spin. He's on a panel with the Saints. What's he going to say?

    But there have been enough past rumblings to make it a legitimate concern. And 2 years into the agreement, I'd view this as a slap in the face if I were CR.

    Also, I can see the real advantage of having your AAA or even AA team right next door. I see less advantage in having the A club there. Especially when it is currently a reasonably easy drive away.
  12. Monkeypaws's Avatar
    He became our favorite watching the Kernels a couple times last month. Yeah, dat stache.
  13. Dman's Avatar
    Love these articles. Keep them coming. I've been keeping an eye on him in the box scores and he always seems to have a hit or two. I hope he makes it.
  14. Sam Morley's Avatar
    jeez, that mustache is premium.
  15. Dman's Avatar
    Nice article. Good information. Was wondering how he was doing. Kind of seems a bit like Berrios last year where his K numbers dropped and ERA was higher than we hoped it would be. I guess you have to learn to pitch somewhere. Might as well be A ball.
  16. kab21's Avatar
    I want to read more about Romero. He has flown under my radar so far.
  17. jimv2's Avatar
    This is a spectacular article. I wish there were a way to pin it to the front page of TD because it is the answer to people who keep asking why so and so hasn't been promoted given that his ERA/OPS/whatever stat you pick is so good. The answer is that's not what the Twins are measuring. They're measuring (for starting pitchers anyway) all the things Kohl is talking about, things that don't really show up in the box score and really don't show up in season-long stats. It seems clear from this that Kohl understands what it will take to succeed and where he needs to grow--at least for the first year or two. He'll be given more things to learn as he progresses up the ladder.

    And I really liked the emphasis on the challenges inherent in going from a high school season to a pro season, you sort of have to train your arm to deal with the far more frequent use. I imagine that not everybody's arm can make that adjustment--another risk factor in evaluating players.
  18. DocBauer's Avatar
    Thank you SD. Wonderful to have someone so close to an affiliate who can give us such a great insight in to the team and players.

    It's simply impossible to predict the future of any young player, much less one with a blind eye. His "handicap" may eventually limit him, or perhaps, like any young player, he will simply plateau at a level. And perhaps he'll climb all the way to the majors! But a tip of my cap to what he has been able to accomplish thus far. A great story, and a talented and hard working young man.
  19. blindeke's Avatar
    Has any major leaguer ever been blind in one eye?
  20. SD Buhr's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by wagwan
    Nice article. It's amazing how well someone can follow Twins Minor league teams through Twin's daily. Tons of great stuff every day.
    And I find it amazing that I can post something I write at 1:00 am and by 8:30 the next morning, already 85 people have read it!
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