Thanks for the correction, Winston, you're absolutely right. That's what happens when I rely on my faulty memory instead of fact-checking my own work! Correction has been noted in the body of the article.
Joe signed his contract before the Twins had played a game at Target Field. He still was under contract for 2010 when he signed (March 2010) the new contract that started in 2011. Small error.
I would listen and consider any offers. Joe while a very good some say great player he isn't the kind of player to carry a team. For 23 mill a year you should, at times, be that player, imo.
Twins pr is bad enough right now trading him would cause a riot.
I like the idea of Brunansky getting a shot to manage in the minors and bringing up AA coach Rudy Hernandez. As always, well done JC.
They'd obviously have to find a way to make it work financially for the Kernels, since they'd be giving up home game gate receipts. But I do think maybe the Kernels played someone in the past at Miller Park, probably the Timber Rattlers but I suppose it may go back to when the Brewers were affiliated with Beloit.
It would be fun for the players, I'm sure, and I wouldn't be surprised if a few thousand fans showed up to watch a Kernels/Rattlers game at TF.
EDIT: A little googling shows the Rattlers still have an annual game at Miller Park. This past April, they played Dayton there. April makes sense as a time to do it because it's generally a bad month for attendance at home for minor league teams.
What would really be cool is if the Twins would let the Kernals host a series at Target Field. I know other teams have done this.
Hey JC, are you in that area where you don't get the Twins on cable, but you would also get Twins' games blacked out on the mlb.tv package?
I know there was a poster on another message board that had this issue. Total BS...
Edit: I just read the link you posted in the article so my question had been answered.
MWL Fan (and anyone else interested): I got this response from Kernels GM Doug Nelson on the question about whether they have a "meet the Kernels" event:
"Yes we do. This year's event will be held on April 2 at the ballpark. Gates will open at 5:30, fans have the opportunity to meet the players from 5:30-6:30. The team then takes the field, are introduced and then scrimmage. It's a fun and relaxed night for everyone and best of all it's free!"
I've bought my tickets by the "book of 10" for the past several years and it works great as long as you're sure you'll make it to 10 games. You essentially get 10 ticket vouchers for the level of seats you want and then, when you get to the ballpark, you go to a ticket window and exchange the vouchers for tickets in your level. Use them one at a time or all 10 at once, it doesn't matter to them. I usually buy 2-3 books of 10, but I'll probably get season tickets next year.
There are 3 levels of seating, premier, club and plaza levels. Premier are the closest few rows to the field. Club seats are a buck or two less expensive but are the remaining fold-down seats in the main "bowl" of the stadium. Plaza are bleacher seats down the right field line.
I usually buy books of Club seats. If I feel like sitting in Premier seats for a particular game, I just pay the buck or two difference for each ticket when I redeem them. The only "pitfall" would be if you happened to show up for a sold-out game after all the tickets in your level have been taken. That has happened to me exactly once in the past 4 years. I showed up right at game time for a game with a promotion going that I should have known would be a big crowd so it was my being stupid.
I believe the Kernels do usually have some kind of "meet the Kernels" event when they get to town from Spring Training, but I've never gone. I'm not sure if it's a public thing or for season ticket holders or what. But I'll check on that next week and come back here to post what I find out.
I have a couple fo questions for you JC. I have not thought of season tix as a option due to travel time from Dodgeville to any MWL locale, but I saw the 10 game Voucher option on the Kernals website for any game. Does that work pretty smooth to your knowledge and any pitfalls I should be aware of before I trek the family down there.
Also my wife wants to know do the Kernals do a meet the Kernals night like the Snappers do. We have made those the last few times and have had a great time getting autographs and pictures with the Snappers. We have to get oriented to the trip to CR now which is fine as going through Madison has never been a thing I have looked forward to. I like Dubuque more actually.
The manager, coaches and trainers are employees of the Major League affiliate and assigned by them, so the Twins will decide who they assign to CR. Someone at the press conference asked about coaches and the Twins reps said they expected some shuffling in their minor league assignments for 2013 but decisions won't be made until at least October.
The Kernels have TV cameras rolling for all of their games for the purpose of their closed circuit TVs (on the concourse, on the big video board for replays, etc.). Mediacom, the local cable company in most of the larger Eastern Iowa cities, also broadcasts a handful of Kernels and Quad Cities River Bandits games during the season on their public access channel. I assume the Twins believe FSN could work out a deal with Mediacom to carry the Kernels games that Mediacom broadcasts.
I'm not sure what other MWL teams might have similar (or even better) TV options.
Will the Kernels likely have the same coaching staff as Beloit did this past year or do teams generally find a local area coach to take over thier lower minor league affiliates? Also you mentioned some teams in MWL have cable coverage. Which teams?
Looks like a fine park
I actually hope this doesn't happen. I like having a non-affiliated professional team nearby - kind of a plan B for seasons like this.
Originally Posted by thrylos98
Would that be robbing (St) Peter to pay (St) Paul?
But yes, I think it would!
I'd certainly like the idea of putting an affiliate in St. Paul so I'd be saying the same things St. Peter is
Would that be robbing (St) Peter to pay (St) Paul?
I was kind of torn on the decision to expand the playoffs. On the one hand, I never liked the wild card in the first place, and adding a second seemed to me to go in the wrong direction. On the other, though, it does increase the incentive to win the division and not settle for second, so in that respect it actually moves us in the right direction. One of those weird cases when two wrongs actually might make a right.
It was not the Twins, it was Texas. Texas tried to own Clinton, but a deal felt through because they did not see enough potential for growth of the fan base (which is approx.26 K people) and enough projected revenue over the next 6 years in Clinton. It is very Easy to see why Beloit would be attractive in a Similar Scenario to the Rangers. Over 100K people between Beloit and Janesville, and the Snappers have not advertised at all in the offseason. A new Stadium would revive Beloit, but has been held up because of donors re allocating the amount of money to other organizations after the Stadium was not going to be put in the location that the big donors wanted.
Do you suppose the "team interested in owning the Beloit franchise" would be the Twins? They could buy the franchise, give Beloit/Janesville 2 years to come up with a new Stadium plan and if/when they don't, move the franchise to St. Paul. Just spitballing here. I like conspiracy theories. Burlington is community owned and I haven't heard anything about facility issues there. Even with low attendance, they apparently are operating in the black (even Beloit is supposedly managing to do that, but if they're forced to bring their ballpark up to standards, it could be problematic financially).
The good news is that in just 3-4 weeks, we'll know all the answers
The Twins are done with Beloit.......I have herd that a team is interested in Owning the Beloit franchise with an agreement to have a new stadium up by the time they get the All Star game in 2020. The Snappers board is not interested in doing a 2 year go around as a stop gap. George Spelius is getting old and he has said for the last 5 years that by the time he is dead, there will be a new team in Beloit. Beloit has 36K people, roughly 10K more than Clinton and Burlington. If the Twins are actually looking for a stop gap until St.Paul, that would be Burlington. Burlington has had the lowest attendance for the last 20 years in the MWL. If the St.Paul plan does work Burlington will lose their franchise.
MLB Rule 58 (and "Attachment 58") address minor league facility standards. There are two sets of standards, those for "new facilities" (defined as those with construction starting after Jan 1, 1991) and "existing facilities" (everything else). Sections 11, 12, and 13 of the rule apply to both new and existing facilities and address the playing field itself, player/manager/umpire clubhouse, etc., and maintenance.
Teams that don't comply with the standards can ask for a "variance." Variances can be extended for a period corresponding with the term of the team's current PDC. There's a lot of, "the Commissioner shall consult with... etc." language, but the bottom line is that if a facility remains out of compliance and are unable to meet reasonable deadlines for bringing facilities up to standards, penalties can be imposed. They range from monetary penalties up to and including forced divestiture of the franchise by current ownership.
I have no idea if Beloit's ownership is currently operating with such a variance, but having been to their ballpark, it wouldn't surprise me. It also wouldn't shock me if one of the reasons the Twins are finally looking to move out of Beloit is that they don't want to be the "bad guy" that is responsible for not signing off on allowing extensions of any such variances that might be in place now.
So, yeah... in my opinion, for whatever little it's worth and based on a layperson's reading of Rule 58, I think Beloit could face a required divestiture of their franchise if they don't have a stadium plan soon (which seems doubtful).
I'm not sure about franchises that might voluntarily be sold. A lot of MWL teams are community owned, so those don't change hands except for financial reasons.