Update* Niel Ramirez has faulterd...pretty poorly...so CROSS THAT one off. But Gregorious certianly is one that remains a Solid option (reds interest in span) But man Scott Diamond is not going anywhere, bad semi suggestion on my part when i did this.
Thanks for the post. Always good to see ideas out there from people who have thought things out. I will say sorry but the words Torrii Hunter and discount do not fit together. If Torii signs for less money then anticiipated it is because nobody offered more. This from a person who loved Torii as a Twin. Don't over pay for a aging outfelder with a system of potential young stud outfielders. Also if Joe Benson is in the Majors, he should be playing everyday. Very creative ideas.
Willingham is going NOWHERE! He is producing and signed for 2 more seasons to a team friendly contract. Liriano's value right now, today, is as high as its going to get. I don't know our minor league system very well and nothing about any other teams systems, but I would think we would need to find a team that needs 1.) Starting pitching today (Liriano), 2.) An OF who can lead-off and is under team control (Span) and 3.) Maybe a veteran utility IF (Carroll) or veteran RP (Duensing or Gray) and has 1.) An excess of SP that is 2 years or less away from MLB and 2.) A power bat to replace Willingham, Doumit or Morneau in 2 years and some other throw-in pieces. Find the this fit and make the deal.
Originally Posted by glunn I see a lot of creative ideas, but what would be the benefit of bringing back Torii for $6 million per year? The Twins have no shortage of decent outfielders. And don't you think that the Angels or some other team might offer Hunter at least $9 million per year to get a solid right handed batter who is still a capable fielder? Great post, but I don't (yet) see the logic of bringing Torii back. Yeah, well Torii Might come to the Twins , and only the Twins, at a slight discount.... and his overall profile fits in as a decent middle of the order hitter that can come somewhat close to replacing Willingham's impact....obvious the HR's won't be near Joshs' ....but there arn't a whole lot of Corner OF options.... and without Willingham AND Span the Twins are going to need at least 1 OFer to bring in. If theres a REAL option out there better than Hunter, I'm all ears.... Maybe there is and for not tooo much more cost.
I'd put the over/under on Hamels at 6/$130M. Definitely going to get $20M+ per, definitely going to get 6+ years guaranteed. The market loves lefty aces. $19.5M/year might land Greinke, but they'd probably have to go at least 5 years. With the injury, Marcum might not get $10M AAV, but I bet he gets more than 6.5M. Maybe a match of Pavano's deal? No need for Torii - Benson's gonna be able to at least match the old man's OPS, and with much fresher legs...
Interesting. A few things. I don't get the Torii thing either. There are probably going to be about 1/3 fewer prospects coming back than what you have here. Marcum is *definitely* someone the Twins should go after, but I would imagine it is going to be at $10 million per year.
Originally Posted by glunn I see a lot of creative ideas, but what would be the benefit of bringing back Torii for $6 million per year? The Twins have no shortage of decent outfielders. And don't you think that the Angels or some other team might offer Hunter at least $9 million per year to get a solid right handed batter who is still a capable fielder? Great post, but I don't (yet) see the logic of bringing Torii back. Also, the reason that the Twins signed Willingham is because he fits the profile of hitter that does well at Target Field. Hunter was more of a guy built for the Metrodome, which is something that Ryan realized this offseason when he started making moves for people that are more built for hitting at Target Field.
I see a lot of creative ideas, but what would be the benefit of bringing back Torii for $6 million per year? The Twins have no shortage of decent outfielders. And don't you think that the Angels or some other team might offer Hunter at least $9 million per year to get a solid right handed batter who is still a capable fielder? Great post, but I don't (yet) see the logic of bringing Torii back.
Should say our off-season top prospect list would look something like: 1. Sano 1 B. Taillon / Heredia 2. Buxton 3. Hanson 4. Rosario 5. Arcia 6. Hicks 7. Harrison 8. Berrios 9. Rosenbaum 10. Gibson 11. McPherson 12. Boyd 13. Kepler 14. Bard 15. Wimmers 16. Herrmann 17. Goodrum 18. Boar 19. Melotakis 20. Grossman/ Rhodes/ Salcedo/ Hauser/ Hermsen
This hasn't been followed up on, but I will say that Ramirez is the only guy on here who's available and has a MLB future. Hechevarria is nowhere near available, and the other two are fringe guys at best.
Thank you. I agree they are all very intriguing possibilities. Its time the Twins do something to provide a spark.... so far essentially Cletus Thomas for Luke Hughes..... That isn't going to cutt it. Neil Ramirez would be our 2nd or 3rd best pitcher tomorrow. There is little doubt in my mind about that. A big Ranger fan i follow told me Joe Benson straight up would be about right in his mind. It could take another player. But Just thinking about Texas' situation they may jump all over the chance to cash in their chip (Ramirez) for whatever they can get since he really doesn't have a future with that team IMO.
These are some intriguing possibilities. However, I would definitely not want to trade Dozier. I am excited to see what we have in him some time this year.
Seconded. Instant gratification culture. The season is a letter or a phone conversation, not a flurry of text messages sent every 15 seconds . . .