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  1. MWLFan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by J-Dog Dungan
    Why would the Twins want to give up Beloit in the first place? I didn't even know their contract was up this year.
    Beloit has great staff and is a established town, but the Stadium and the facilities that the players use has been referred to as below standard for a low A ball team. Also the attendance has not been overwhleming.
  2. MWLFan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by John Bonnes
    How about Duluth?
    Duluth would be fun. I have not been to a game since the Dukes played up there in the old Northen League, love the Stadium. Not sure if it would be embraced by a MLB Organization. Would be a great town for MILB ball though.
  3. John Bonnes's Avatar
    How about Duluth?
  4. dougg13's Avatar
    Waterloo might be a good fit. They currently have a Northern Woods League Team. The stadium is probably a step up from Beloit, but not as nice as Cedar Rapids.
  5. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    Why would the Twins want to give up Beloit in the first place? I didn't even know their contract was up this year.
  6. Darin Bratsch's Avatar
    I like the idea of Wisconsin Dells/ Lake Delton area. I can see my kids swimming all day and then going to the ballpark at night. Waterloo would be good second choice since its close to Twins Territory. I suppose Rochester would be to far away from other MWL teams.
  7. kirbyelway's Avatar
    How bout Rochester, MN?
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  9. MWLFan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Dan Gladden
    Aberdeen, SD They used to have an Orioles farm team back in the Jim Palmer days. They currently have the Pheasants playing in the Northern League. Small city tht would enjoy the exposure, only 5 hour drive from Minneapolis.
    Aberdeen is interesting. I would ove to here the folks in Michigan whine about that road trip.
  10. Fire Dan Gladden's Avatar
    Aberdeen, SD They used to have an Orioles farm team back in the Jim Palmer days. They currently have the Pheasants playing in the Northern League. Small city tht would enjoy the exposure, only 5 hour drive from Minneapolis.
  11. Rosterman's Avatar
    What places already have an affiliation with the Midwest League? I doubt that they will subtract teams to add teams.
  12. MWLFan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by LastOnePicked
    Thank you for posting this, MWL, and your comments in reply. When I have a bit more time, I'll try to comment more, but I REALLY want to push back on this comment, because I feel it's near the core of the organization's problems:

    "But this is also the group that gave the fans of Minnesota the most sustained success of any team since the Vikings of the late 60's and 70's."

    I don't get this at all. Central Division titles in a VERY weak division shouldn't be the yardstick for success. The Twins record against the AL East during this "successful run" was very poor. If the Twins had played in another division, we'd be in a postseason drought the likes of which only Pittsburgh and Baltimore have shared, I think. And, at least, we'd all be more honest about the team's glaring shortcomings in both philosophy and product.
    I guess it depends on your expectations. Yours are higher then mine it sounds like. The statement speaks to a prolonged period of success being defined be a winning record, playoff appearances and just plain old relavancy. I am not looking at Competion. That means little in this comparison.. I understand that is a sticking point for you but I could then argue that the Twins World Series wins were less then stellar due to the level of competition they faced in the Series, the Cardinals were a good team but banged up and missing key people and the Braves were also not the percieved best team in the National League. Now the Twins did have to beat a pretty good Tigers Team in 87 and a decent Blue Jays team in 91, but the 87 team did benefit from playing in the Western Division which did not have the best teams in the league. Arguements like this can go on and I don't have time or energy to put into taking them to their ultimate conclusion.

    My point was in terms of overall wins, playoff appearances the Twins in years 2002 to 2010 had a string of success only equaled or surpassed by the Viking Teams of the late 1960's and 1970's. The 1964 to 1973 Twins were probably a better if I broke it down and less chances for Playoff appearances. But like the Twins of this era they too had their boogieman, only it was the Orioles and not the Yankees. Did the North Stars have such a period, no. Like the late 80's and early 90's Twins they had some excellent teams for shorter periods, could not sustain. The Timberwolves? Wild? Gopher football? How far do we go down the food chain here? Gopher Hockey and the Lynx?

    I will also say why the level of competition thing is not important to me. In 15 to 20 years I hope I will not dwell on the fact that this team didn't beat the Yankees, that Koskies ball doesn't jump into the stands, that one umpire makes the correct call on a "Fair" ball down the line. I did that in my 20's and 30's with the Vikings. (Drew Pearson did push off by the way.) It is a waste of emotion and just negative energy. I want to remember that magical run when the Twins overtook the Tigers, now you can say the Tigers collapsed and they did but I don't care as that is a Tigers fan issue and not mine, I want to soak in the excitement of game 163 against the Tigers and watch Go-Go run. The memories I will carry will be Joe Mauer on one of his hot streaks htting the crap out of everything, Santana looking unhittable with 2 and what should have been 3 Cy Young years, young Frankie dueling Roger Clemens, Joe Nathan and his horse blow racking up saves, Morneau's sheer power and the one year of Thome. That this was not done against the Yankees of 1927 or the Gashouse Gang or Big red Machine doesn't make a difference to me. It was still fun and enjoyable.

    That doesn't mean I don't get disappointed when something stupid happens, Ramos for Capps really or say BJ Garbe. It also does not mean I want them to suck this bad, it is annoying to be this awful. But I won't get worked up as it is only a baseball game played by millionaires for the enrichment of billionaires and has no real bearing on my daily life. Many times I get the feeling in reading the pages that too many people get all frothy about something Gardy did or didn't do, or Mauers lack of power or whatever. I don't, this is entertainment like a movie or American Idol. I used to get worked up about my cars too, but I now realize that all a car is is transportation. It isnot a extension of myself, just like the Twins are not really a part of my being.

    Just my outlook. If you choose to get all into the parts about level competiton, dive into the stats, live in the clubhouse intrigue and focus on how they just are not a high caliber team and they don't measure up to the Yankees or the Red Sox, I respect that. If that is where you enjoy baseball, have at it and I hope it makes you happy, truely I do. It doesn't work for me. I have enough S*#t in my life. I love minor league and town ball because it is simple and not full of all the BS surrounding the major leagues, it is baseball at it's best in many ways. I know watching the Snappers or E-Twins pales in comparision to the skill of the majors, but man it is just fun. Reminds me of how it was when I played with my friends 25 years ago. I am trying not to go all Field of Dreams here, and my rant is long ...my bad.
  13. YourHouseIsMyHouse's Avatar
    The Blue Jays, Rangers, Braves, and Rays organizations would be good to scour over.
  14. boney's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MWLFan
    You bring up a good point. I don't know if MLB clubs use executive search firms. Most MLB Teams are owned by strong minded men who probably believe they know better then anyone else unlike colleges and universities that are more layered in their structure and have multiple levels of signing off.I don't think I ever have heard of a club using a outside group to help, sure it must happen sometimes and at some level. But you look at guys who own baseball teams and there are not a lot of delagators in that group, with the possible exception of the Minnesota Twins.

    I will need to pay closer attention next GM opening this October or November.

    Sorry, didn't mean for that to sound serious. I was trying to be a smart donkey
  15. LastOnePicked's Avatar
    Thank you for posting this, MWL, and your comments in reply. When I have a bit more time, I'll try to comment more, but I REALLY want to push back on this comment, because I feel it's near the core of the organization's problems:

    "But this is also the group that gave the fans of Minnesota the most sustained success of any team since the Vikings of the late 60's and 70's."

    I don't get this at all. Central Division titles in a VERY weak division shouldn't be the yardstick for success. The Twins record against the AL East during this "successful run" was very poor. If the Twins had played in another division, we'd be in a postseason drought the likes of which only Pittsburgh and Baltimore have shared, I think. And, at least, we'd all be more honest about the team's glaring shortcomings in both philosophy and product.
  16. MWLFan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by James
    Kenny Williams....

    ...wait.... no, not him.
    You meant Barry Williams, no Paul Wiiliams ah...Wendy Williams. Yeah thats the ticket. One thing Kenny would get us is trades, if people want trades Kenny is the man.
  17. MWLFan's Avatar
    Friedman is a good choice I think. Solid cred. Has been in a top flight org for years now. Stuck in a awful place with a good team. He might actually look for a way out. I would think a bigger market then Minnesota would come calling before then and maybe even after he would arrive on the shores of the big muddy however, he would go all Andy MacPhail on us. Not sure about full control, that tends not to work in other sports. Football and basketball coaches with"full" control are a issue sooner or later. (See Green, Denny.) Nice call nicksaviking.
  18. nicksaviking's Avatar
    Andrew Friedman, but only on the condition that he has full control over scouting/development. He oddly doesn't work under a contract, you'd think at some point a team would come along and make him an offer he can't refuse. If the GM's salary was a big deal to St. Peter, I'd have no problem if it came out of the expected payroll. A good GM is better than an extra $5M or so to spend on the free agent market if you ask me.
  19. James's Avatar
    Kenny Williams....

    ...wait.... no, not him.
  20. MWLFan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by boney
    I want to see how this offseason goes because we all know that TR is a very good baseball guy. I want to see this org. pick a direction either they find a way to trade assets for what they're looking for or they attempt to spend good money on marquee not Marquis pitching if they think this lineup can compete. Besides if the Twins were to replace they would probably have to hire some firm like colleges do for a coaching vacancy because they are probably not familiar with anyone outside of their own org. , only half joking on that.
    You bring up a good point. I don't know if MLB clubs use executive search firms. Most MLB Teams are owned by strong minded men who probably believe they know better then anyone else unlike colleges and universities that are more layered in their structure and have multiple levels of signing off.I don't think I ever have heard of a club using a outside group to help, sure it must happen sometimes and at some level. But you look at guys who own baseball teams and there are not a lot of delagators in that group, with the possible exception of the Minnesota Twins.

    I will need to pay closer attention next GM opening this October or November.
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