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  1. jorgenswest's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by old nurse
    There is the theory that pitch framing saves runs. Where is the actual data that proves it. Turkenkopf who was in on the idea from the start stated that there were not the runs saved as projected.
    Dan Turkenkopf's work that showed the run value of turning a strike into a ball. I think the change referred to was from the original .16 to .14 due to count. We haven't heard from him in a while because he was hired by the Rays two seasons ago. It is his manager with the famous quote about Molina saving 50 runs. It is his organization that employs Molina in spite of a slash line of 195/239/201.
  2. old nurse's Avatar
    There is the theory that pitch framing saves runs. Where is the actual data that proves it. Turkenkopf who was in on the idea from the start stated that there were not the runs saved as projected.
  3. naobermiller's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by rcfarmer
    The Green Monster makes it too difficult for pitchers, when they adjust that then Target Field can change.
    Quoted for Truth
  4. jokin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tarheeltwinsfan
    I agree about the right field wall. How can the Twins change the design with good esthetics, to allow more HR in RF and accommodate the fans viewing the game? Then let's sign a ton of left-handed pitchers.
    Since the removal of the trees in CF, I have long thought the high right field wall and scoreboard is the second worst aesthetic in the park. I have long dreamed and proposed that the incomplete overhang be extended in both directions, ultimately extending from the break in center field to the foul pole. To further add to the new look, scrap the existing boring digital scoreboard- bring back an analog look!, and then recreate a version of the stone arch bridge as "supports" for the overhang, with portions of the scoreboard within each arch along with added ground level seating, something like RF in AT & T:




    but built with arches like the most iconic public works project in the state:

    Updated 07-16-2014 at 11:09 PM by jokin
  5. naobermiller's Avatar
    Nice Data
  6. tarheeltwinsfan's Avatar
    I meant what I wrote...left- handed pitchers so the opposition could not take advantage of the short porch in RF, since their left-handed hitters would have trouble hitting our left-handed pitchers.
  7. rcfarmer's Avatar
    The Green Monster makes it too difficult for pitchers, when they adjust that then Target Field can change.
    Updated 07-16-2014 at 07:38 PM by rcfarmer
  8. twinsfan34's Avatar
    How often have teams made adjustments like this one in the past?

    PP* you mean LH hitters right?
  9. tarheeltwinsfan's Avatar
    I agree about the right field wall. How can the Twins change the design with good aesthetics, to allow more HR in RF and accommodate the fans viewing the game? Then let's sign a ton of left-handed pitchers.
    Updated 07-17-2014 at 08:31 AM by tarheeltwinsfan
  10. brvama's Avatar
    Thanks for the link. Talk about the 'quick pitch.' One thing the rapid fire does is make the batter work for those HR's, instead of just teeing off. I think that would be a good change to the format.

    However, I still like Kaplan's idea of adding competition for base-running (speed) and throwing from the OF (arm) to show off a couple of the tools of which the players are evaluated. IMO that would add interest and variety to the event that could expand both player involvement and fan interest. Certainly would for me.
  11. dakotanative's Avatar
    I find it quite interesting that the All Stars from both leagues had high praise for how nice the Minnesota fans were and they are. Over the years I have lived in 13 states and three foreign countries and my time living in the Twins Cities ranks up there as the finest living experience for both myself and my family. However, how does one reconcile Minnesota Nice with Minnesota or Upper Midwest pessimism? On the many team sites representing Minnesota sports teams one sees a continual refrain of: Twins suck; Gophers suck; T-wolves suck; Wild sucks; Vikings suck. Its like watching the movie "The Music Man" and the contrariness of Iowa. Look, I am from Minot North Dakota and I know how the environment can impact one's outlook, but I am not of the opinion that these teams suck all the time. Now the T-wolves under Kahn did suck or at least their leadership did (had to root for the poor players), but Saunders is a pro and not a newspaper reporter. The Vikings under their former committee leadership team with Childress driving the boat were hard to live with and I will always be grateful to Farve for basically telling Childress to stick where the sun don't shine. So how do I feel about the Twins? While they won 3 out of 4 years under Smith, he gutted the foundation of the team. The fans, as a whole, loved the winning and ignored the rot setting in. Today Ryan has replaced the rot, restored the foundation and is now putting up the building's structure. He is doing a fantastic job. Now that statement will get numerous cat-calls, but when one looks at his track record what he is doing should not surprise us. Calls to gut the team and play all prospects is not wise. You have to grow your talent and promote it when it is ready. Do it too soon and your odds of failure go up substantially. Look at what Billy Beane is doing by resurrecting older prospects who were promoted too soon, failed and then thrown out on the trash heap. The 1982 Twins were horrible and wonderfully talented with Hrkek, Brunansky, Launder, Viloa, and soon to join Puckett. They were horrible because Griffith went cheap and dumped all of the veterans and saddled Twins fans with a good AA team. That team was poor until McPhail brought in some veterans to settle down the wild horses. Today we have seen our team improve its record by 7-8 games over last year. We are seeing greater team work and camaraderie. What a transformation Dozier has made and to think a year or two ago in the blogs it was Dozier this and Dozier that. If the Twins had dumped him as many in the blogs had wanted where would we be? The pitching has shown considerable improvement. They are sprinkling the team with prized prospects like Santana, Pinto, Gibson, Polanco, and Arcia. If it wasn't for injuries Sano would be on the team and Buxton a late season call up. Later this season we will see May and Meyers on the team and maybe Berrios and Vargas in September for a cup of coffee. I am doubtful if Rosario gets a September call up, but one never knows. Hicks is in the process of turning it around, not unlike old Twins favorite Torri Hunter who was up and down between the major and minors until he finally figured it out. In two years our outfield will probably be: Rosario, Hicks and Buxton and our starting staff will be Meyers, May, Gibson, Berrios, Nolasco (hate to say it but Nolasco will rebound and Stewart and Thorpe are too far away). Despite an occasional prospect failure, Ryan has done a super job in turning around the farm system and in setting up a future in which the Twins will be a dominate team for years to come.
  12. h2oface's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Danchat
    .......and Kris Johnson if he can get more starts. (Gardy said that he's going to be in the second half rotation for now.)
    The thing about Johnson replacing Nolasco so far......... he is doing a great impersonation of Nolasco, getting spanked and behind by 5 after a couple of innings...
  13. Danchat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by h2oface
    MVP - Suzuki
    Pitcher - Hughes
    Relief - Perkins
    Rookie - Santana
    In this rebuild......... is there even a rookie on the active 25 right now? (except maybe Kris Johnson? Would he even count?) Doesn't seem like much of a rebuild when you look at it that way.
    Yeah.... the Twins don't get the concept of a rebuild. It's not about playing aging veterans and holding back young prospects...

    Here are the Twins players on pace for having their rookie season: Josmil Pinto, Danny Santana, maybe Eric Fryer (not sure if he's already had his rookie season or if he'll play enough games), Yohan Pino (if he gets 25 more innings), possibly Michael Tonkin, and Kris Johnson if he can get more starts. (Gardy said that he's going to be in the second half rotation for now.)
  14. lightfoot789's Avatar
    The MLB Home Run Derby should take on the format of the FSL (minus the secondary fence). The Florida State League gave each participant 3 minutes to hit as many as possible. I would recommend 2 minutes personally. It did however give fans a fast dose of HRs going over the fence and some type of climax as they watched the time run down. I was told it made the derby go faster and kept fans more engaged. Watch the 2014 FSL HR Derby video below. I think the format change works even at the MLB level.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfo00JE6wQw
  15. h2oface's Avatar
    MVP - Suzuki
    Pitcher - Hughes
    Relief - Perkins
    Rookie - Santana
    In this rebuild......... is there even a rookie on the active 25 right now? (except maybe Kris Johnson? Would he even count?) Doesn't seem like much of a rebuild when you look at it that way.
  16. Dainir's Avatar
    I don't see why he would be, Gibson has better numbers. Gibson has a much lower ERA. He has pitched 8 less innings and allowed 12 less earned runs. Gibson has pitched 6 games where he has allowed 4 or more earned runs, and Correia has pitched 7 such games.

    So from just looking at the stats, Gibson would appear to be better. Hughes has pitched more innings and allowed fewer runs than Correia. You can't cherry pick starts and say "Hey, player x struggled here in this one game, he must not be the real deal." Back your claims up with stats and trends not just a one time start.

    Now if you look at just the stats from June and what's been accomplished so far in July you come up with a much better argument for you claim. Put those pieces together then come back.
  17. Dainir's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dman
    I really like this article. I am a little low on Kohl I guess because of the strikeouts and lack of perceived dominance. You have allowed me to see Stewart's development in a more positive light. He was the number 4 draft choice in the first round so my expectations are higher than maybe they should be. He is doing well there is no question about that and he is young for his league. The question always will be does he have what it takes to be dominant. Reading your article I think he will get there.
    Another thing to consider to maybe help your perspective. The #4 first round draft pick is a very different beast depending on if the player is just out of high school or just out of college. Just out of high school won't yet be as good (polished) of players as out of college. The keyword is the yet, the high school players drafted that high project as having higher ceilings.

    That is the case with Stewart, he was drafted out of high school. He will need more polishing, as expected, and the low walk rate means there is one part about him that we don't need to worry about polishing up for now.

    The big thing that the low walk rate says to me is that he is not afraid to go after batters, which as the youngest player in the league is huge.
  18. Dman's Avatar
    I really like this article. I am a little low on Kohl I guess because of the strikeouts and lack of perceived dominance. You have allowed me to see Stewart's development in a more positive light. He was the number 4 draft choice in the first round so my expectations are higher than maybe they should be. He is doing well there is no question about that and he is young for his league. The question always will be does he have what it takes to be dominant. Reading your article I think he will get there.
  19. VandyTwinsFan's Avatar
    My MVP would be Suzuki. Dozier may be more exciting with the HR and steals and the flashy diving plays, but Suzuki has been the glue that has made this team work. He plays hurt, dinged up, leg falling off. If Pinto weren't up to start the season, he'd play every game. Defensively, he keeps the ball in front of the plate. It seems like the pitchers trust him and like working with him. Offensively, 25 K's in 311 plate attempts. Crazy low for this team. Highest OBP and average. 3rd in RBI after hitting up and down the lineup and in only 79 games while splitting with Pinto. Clutch hits, doubles, walks. The guy is having a career year and has made this team what it is so far.
  20. twinsin17's Avatar
    Interesting article, thank you for the post. Quantifying ground ball rates kind of blows my mind. Do double plays count as two ground outs? Are line drives counted in air outs? Does GB% include all batted balls (hits and outs)? I wonder what the league average for these metrics is for comparison sake.
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