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  1. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lightfoot789
    Nice Article. I like the fact that J.D. Williams called the trio of Goodrum - Buxton and Himself the Soul Patrol while they played in Cedar Rapids. He is a funny kid and solid team leader. They were always seen together I'm told. Cedar Rapids had more African Americans on their team to start the season (2013) than the Twins had in the rest of their entire system. Cedar Rapids had 6 on the same roster at one point in the season. I would look for Adam Brett Walker to be a part of that Soul Patrol Outfield in 2 to 3 years and not Rosario.
    Tyler Jones (RHP)
    JD Wiliams (OF)
    Byron Buxton (OF)
    Niko Goodrum (IF)
    Adam Brett Walker (OF)
    Josh Burris (RHP) (though a short stay)
    If you are going to add Latin Players to the Soul Patrol outfield, then you must add Jeremias Pineda (OF). Williams - Pineda and Walker are young enough to possibly make that future roster and have useable roles.
    I am sure there is room for alterations to the Soul Patrol 2. Heck, even the first Soul Patrol lost Lawton and gained Stewart two(ish) years later. Goodness I miss those days. Forerunners of the Mighty Little Piranhas!
  2. lightfoot789's Avatar
    Nice Article. I like the fact that J.D. Williams called the trio of Goodrum - Buxton and Himself the Soul Patrol while they played in Cedar Rapids. He is a funny kid and solid team leader. They were always seen together I'm told. Cedar Rapids had more African Americans on their team to start the season (2013) than the Twins had in the rest of their entire system. Cedar Rapids had 6 on the same roster at one point in the season. I would look for Adam Brett Walker to be a part of that Soul Patrol Outfield in 2 to 3 years and not Rosario.
    Tyler Jones (RHP)
    JD Wiliams (OF)
    Byron Buxton (OF)
    Niko Goodrum (IF)
    Adam Brett Walker (OF)
    Josh Burris (RHP) (though a short stay)
    If you are going to add Latin Players to the Soul Patrol outfield, then you must add Jeremias Pineda (OF). Williams - Pineda and Walker are young enough to possibly make that future roster and have useable roles.
  3. dakotanative's Avatar
    Nice article. I remember well the Soul Patrol and the League of Nations infield. One scout described the Twins infield as one having four shortstops. They could cover the ground. I always felt that Doug Meintkiewicz was the best fielding first baseman in all of baseball. His flops to the right field side save many an error for Koskie. However, I see Rosario taking Arcia's place in the outfield and Arcia being a DH. Eventually Polanco will be the second baseman with Santana at short. Rosario can flat out hit and needs to have a home as does Arcia. The outfield of Rosario, Buxton and Hicks will cover some serious ground and make out pitchers seem like all starts. On another note Mike Schmidt hit under .200 his first year in the majors and went on to have a great career. At this time I do not think Hicks is a Mike Schmidt. Well, I will not even entertain that thought, but if he is closer to Hunter, who also got off to a bad start, I will be happy. Regardless, over the years I have seen four waves of talent come forth from the Twins system. The first wave won two World Series Title, the third one and parts of the fourth won 6 division titles, but this latest wave is flat out the best in my 40 years as a Twins fan. I long to see them smack around the American League East and the fulfillment of my desires is just around the corner.
  4. johnnydakota's Avatar
    As for Alex Meyer breaking camp with the Twins,I would be pissed, we are not going any where with this team as it is, so why give up a year of team controll in a waste year? He can come up in July after a few months in AAA if he does well and get established
  5. johnnydakota's Avatar
    [QUOTE=Oldgoat_MN;bt9921]I agree. The problem is that AAAA players are not that hard to find. Most MLB rosters feature some of those players.

    I cannot see the Twins putting together a group of potential 5th starters and actually getting anything. No one else has the roster room, either.

    Cannot imagine why the Padres would let Smith go. He's their Alex Meyer.

    There is no SS on the market that looks better than Escobar's numbers from AAA last year.

    I agree, J-Dog, that for some reason I don't think TR is done.
    Just cannot imagine what's next.[/QUOTE]
    MLBR has reported it twice in the last month that he was avalible and once that Matt Wisler was also
  6. howieramone's Avatar
    [QUOTE=lightfoot789;bt9934]What would we have to give up to receive Castro from the Cubs? Young gifted SS who could pair with any of our 2B options for years to come. What would it take????????????
    They still have Baez for SS and Ott for 3B moving forward.

    Arcia? & Diamond and / or Gibson
    Rosario? & Pitchers
    Ideas????
    Dozier?[/QUOTE]

    I like Castro also. I would start with Berrios and Thorpe. King Theo is in a rebuild just like us, but their ETA is 2016. His future position talent rivals ours, but we have more starting pitching prospects.
  7. lightfoot789's Avatar
    What would we have to give up to receive Castro from the Cubs? Young gifted SS who could pair with any of our 2B options for years to come. What would it take????????????
    They still have Baez for SS and Ott for 3B moving forward.

    Arcia? & Diamond and / or Gibson
    Rosario? & Pitchers
    Ideas????
    Dozier?
  8. ChrisKnutson's Avatar
    Trade Albers with a reliever, Duensing or Burton. because Albers was somewhat of a decent starting pitcher and could build on that, maybe not, that's why you'd add a reliever. In return you'd probably get an AAA minor leaguer who's a decent SS or SP.
  9. nicksaviking's Avatar
    I don't think the 5th starter candidates get packaged together. I think one of them gets packaged with a reliever like Duensing/Swarzak/Burton or Fein. Perhaps another starter gets packaged with Plouffe. His days at 3B are numbered and the Twins have been talking about Mark Reynolds.
  10. twinsfan34's Avatar
    I'd love to hear if any of the Braves guys are available.

    They have 6 starters and the tail end are better than our group of AAA guys. Beachy would be the guy I'd target, however, we just traded with them, so it would have been more condusive to try to get him then.

    I think Alex Meyer will end up with the 5th spot out of Spring Training. I can't see any of those other guys really giving him much of a challenge. Sure they might put up good Spring Training numbers. But if Meyer isn't missing his locations (catcher sits outside, pitch flies inside) and has doesn't have a high BB% total - I just can't see them pitching him every 5th or 6th day as the #5.

    I haven't been much of a believer in Kyle Gibson since we drafted him. But he seems like a great guy, intelligent, and at least before his injury - a crafty pitcher. So I'd pull for him, even though I never thought he'd ever be part of a MLB rotation.

    The glut of AAAA guys is somewhat nice in that if there's a shoulder tweak or anything like that you can just bring up a guy and he can pitch on short notice. One of those AAAA guys who can do a pinch start is usually the long reliever, a la Brian Duensing.

    I had no idea Doumit could be traded. So that's about as much as I know going forward, but I agree with the guys above, I think there will be a few more trades that ultimately affect the 25 man roster.
  11. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
    I agree. The problem is that AAAA players are not that hard to find. Most MLB rosters feature some of those players.

    I cannot see the Twins putting together a group of potential 5th starters and actually getting anything. No one else has the roster room, either.

    Cannot imagine why the Padres would let Smith go. He's their Alex Meyer.

    There is no SS on the market that looks better than Escobar's numbers from AAA last year.

    I agree, J-Dog, that for some reason I don't think TR is done.
    Just cannot imagine what's next.
  12. J-Dog Dungan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnydakota
    Burch Smith is young and avalible from San Diego
    or a catcher from Huston, Stassi who has Castro blocking him
    I was thinking about Houston. They are still going cheap, might be willing to get some affordable pitching for a catching prospect.
  13. johnnydakota's Avatar
    Burch Smith is young and avalible from San Diego
    or a catcher from Huston, Stassi who has Castro blocking him
  14. Thrylos's Avatar
    The Vikings successes have done nothing to the fans' perceptions of the Twins. Even in the season that they were cheated out of a Superbowl by the Taints and the officiating crew who wanted to atone for Katrina, while Gardy's club was doing its regular postseason routine.

    Always too much slack for the Twins' and their leaders for the same fanbase who wanted to bury the Vikings and their leaders, this Millennium.
  15. PopRiveter's Avatar
    Your first 3 points are all the same point. In football, a good draft has a huge and immediate impct. There is no immediate impact in baseball. Success in baseball is generally the result of a long, slow build. The 2 sports attract different personalities at least partially for this reason. In football, everything is about now. In baseball, you have to balance timelines and momentums.
    I appreciate both sports, but am more impressed by a successful baseball team than a successful football team. To put it plainly, it is easier for a flawed football team to win 10 games than it is for a flawed baseball team to win 100.
  16. Highabove's Avatar
    The Twins are back to being a small market Franchise. Boy, that didn't take long.

    27 Million Dollars came off the books. The Twins have plenty of resources to be an active player in the F.A.market. They choose not too.
    Updated 12-26-2012 at 01:01 AM by Highabove
  17. jtrinaldi's Avatar
    In other news, I just got my Packers playoff tickets in the mail
  18. Rosterman's Avatar
    Winning makes the whole stadium issue look good. And the Vikings have to hold that game plan while it is built. Do I see a similar scenario as what is happening in Twinsville.

    I can get down on the Twins, but the last two seasons aren't entirely their fault. They spent a lot in 2011 and had injuries to main guys throughout the year. The whole rotation, which I thought would've been easily good for 50-60 victories alone, imploded. Both of the problems that happened (during the season) were insurmontable by a team like the Twins to go out and purchase the one or two necessary pieces needed to win, let alone just compete in the short-term.

    As I looked at 2013, I did see hope. Money to spend. Pitchers available. A few holes that could be patched in the offense. But the offense became weaker when you basically traded away your number 1-2 hitters with no repalcements in sight. And no one really to step in if you wave some dollars at them. There is a weakness in the infield besides in a year in which the candidates you could buy are on the same level as the ones you have. The money that could be spent on pitching was to do a patchwork job for at least a year to give new guys time to develop or implode, as well as basically refurbishing a weakness in the organization of hard throwers compared to the multitude of pitch-to-contact guys that will be spending time at High-A and AA with dreams now shattered of pitching in the major leagues.

    It is a smoke-and-mirrors offseason. Usually the Twins appear to do enough to look like they can win bigtime and end up doing enough to remain competitive. But they clearly need to totally retrench and go into rebuild mode, which is sad because it can easily be a 1-3 year process, depending on what teams around you do.

    Twinsfest: Who will pay to go to this event!?
  19. glunn's Avatar
    I agree and hope that he gets a shot this year.
  20. Shane Wahl's Avatar
    Hell it isn't even clear to me that the Twins shouldn't start the season with him as their backup 1B,, RH bench bat, and emergency 3B. He is old--and in his prime right now--as a prospect. The Twins need to load their bench with the top producing players if they want to actually be legit in 2013. My views is that Wilkin Ramirez, Pedro Florimon, Chris Herrmann, and Chris Colabello should make up the bench at the start of the season. Seems so obvious to me.
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