Yeah, he wont get 30 mil....maybe 25
He can ask for the moon and he stars, too.
He's awfully talented, but I see him being offered 8 years, $200M.
Makes me think less of him that he's making it about A-Rod's salary.
I've got to think this salary bubble will burst sometime..
I believe that managers can make a huge difference. They can drive their players crazy or keep them upbeat. They can allow them to get sloppy or demand excellence. They can demand excellence while being total jerks or they can make every player proud of what they are accomplishing.
I think there is a lot of evidence to support that.
I am really happy for Justin.
Went to the Pirates site to watch that play. Justin got rid of that ball in a hurry.
I think Farrell got more out Toronto than Gibbons is, and Toronto added a pile of "talent."
Bobbie V provided anecdotal evidence you can screw a team up. He only managed one year in Boston. They add talent and Farrell looks good. Notice that he did not make a Toronto team better.
Manual has a lot of talent from the contending years playing for other teams. That the team is in such a decline that they are giving extended tryouts to jettisoned players like Young should be an indication of the dropoff of talent with the Phillies. Not to mention pitching injuries and old age.
Cleaveland is dramatically improved, look at the talent they added or were lucky to find. Masterson stepped up. Is that the manager or the pitching coach.
I don't really know how this has been studied,but you're right that there is plenty of anecdotal evidence recently.
Please tell me the batting average is a typo.
The payroll for '13 is to about 70 million if you assume 8 or so players not yet eligible for arbitration are on the team opening day and the twins don't offer arbitration to anyone or pick up any options. The non arb eligible players I would think make it are dozier, plouffe, revere, swarzak, burnett, gray, hendriks, parmelee and gibson probably will be if healthy. I'm really not sure about valencia, waldrop, butera, manship, or slama so I'll leave them off. The pre arbitration average used by baseball reference isn't accurate for the guys I've listed either, so with 8 - 10 pre arb players on the roster the team is around 70mil in payroll and would have 8 - 10 roster spots open. Of the 4 arbitration eligible players, I'd guess they offer to Duensing and Burton if they don't just sign them. I don't think they'll offer to casilla or burroughs. The only free agent I can see them maybe bringing back is doumit at the right price. I'm guessing they will pick up Capps option if he is still here. If you add in capps and the two arb players I think they'll bring back the payroll is going to be around 80 mil at that point and there will still be 5 -7 roster spots open. My guess is they fill most of those with cheap free agents and non arb eligible players and the payroll ends up around 85 - 90 mil.
I couldn't get the table too paste with just 2013 salary.
If Capps continues to pich the way he has so far this year. The Twins will pick up his option. Management likes him and he has been effective and 6 million isn't necessarily that much for a closer.
Why doesn't someone post players list and their correspoding salaries or estimates for next year so we can all see all of the calculations and discuss from there.
I was using baseball-reference's payroll tool. It gives a rough estimate using 3 year averages. Going back and lookingnat the players, it will not be $20 M. Casilla and Duensing will get the biggest amounts, Burton will get a contract and Burroughs will be released. I will amend that to $5 M, putting payroll down around $76.5 M. I threw this together quickly last night and didn't check the actual arb. eiligible players. That being said, with this new $76.5 M number I think the team exercises Capps option because he's a guy who "battles his tail off", plus I missed Gray probably not getting offered arbitration. That puts total payroll around $82 M, leaving $18 M to get to $100 M. This assumes no qualifying offers to Pavano and Liriano, because that would screw things up if either accepted, and no trades this season. I apologize for not doing my full homework on this assignment.
Who are the four arbitration eligible players who will get $20mm?
severely disagree with the numbers. Casilla wont get more than 2m...Duensing/Burton 1.5...Burnett/Butera 900k....that's 6.8m NOT 20m.
There will massive amounts of money to spend IF they want to. AGAIN, its not about spending money....but rather to spend it wisely.
Where do you get your arbitration estimate from?
I think Their finial arbitration number could be under 6 million not 20.
I doubt they tender Casilla
No way Butera gets more than minimum
Duensing Burton and Burnett will get raises but not much more than 1 -2 mil a year.
Twins DHs have been Morneau, Mauer and Doumit... that's a pretty good group.
#5 hitter started with the hot Willingham, and then Morneau moved back there and he's been hitting well. Doumit from time to time.
1 - .288/.346/.356 .702 (7)
should actually make the people who think that Span is anything more than average lead off hitter, rethink...
There are actually teams worse than us at 1B and 3B!
Well, we have that going for us...