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  1. killertwinsfan's Avatar
    I still think Twins will try him in the OF for the time being. Especially with Mauer now at first till 2018
  2. lightfoot789's Avatar
    When looking at minor leaguers like Miguel Sano who has a flare for big moments - or Byron Buxton who seems to always be in the middle of game winning scenerios (runs/rbis/hrs) - What makes certain players clutch and others not so much?

    *Dalton Hicks game winning Grand Slam in Elizabethtons 2012 extra inning Championship game
    *Adam Brett Walker's game tying 3 run HR in the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs in same game
    *Hicks continued to hit clutch doubles - HRs and singles in Cedar Rapids in 2013
    *Walker hit another 3 run HR in the bottom of 9th to tie a game in 2013
    *Walker hit 3 Grand Slams in 2013 and went something like 9 for 12 with bases loaded in 2013

    Who and what were some of the clutch hitting and pitching performances in our minor league system in 2013? Give some stories as to who you think has that clutch trait..............
  3. Thrylos's Avatar
    This is kinda of a slippery slope, because you are mixing ethnicity (e.g. Hispanic) with race (e.g. black/African American, white, Asian, native etc). African Americans/blacks can be Hispanic or not. Dominican republic is part of the Americas so people with Dominican origin are also considered Americans.

    That said, I suspect that you are asking why there are so few non-hispanic blacks in the Twins' system. I think that your count is off. I counted at least 6 who played with Cedar Rapids last season:

    Josh Burris
    Byron Buxton
    Niko Goodrum
    Tyler Jones
    Adam Walker
    J.D. Williams

    might even be more.

    Getting inner city kids in the US (African American or not) to play baseball has not been very successful, thus programs like RBI. And it is not the Twins, it is the whole league.
  4. twinsfan34's Avatar
    I could be walk-ing right into this one, but I think Prospect A has a shot. He improved YoY...and I think, if he's willing to make the adjustments, shorten his swing, etc (if that's what's needed)...he can still be a successful power hitter because he has so much power.

    Ironically, Jose Dariel Abreu has the same scouting report. Can't hit the inside fastball, destroys mistake pitches, tons of power.

    I don't know if he'd ever hit over .270 in the pros. Do the Twins have room for an average to above average OF...who hits .240-265...22-34 HR type of player. Maybe.
  5. James's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure that I know who the player is, but I won't name him so others can judge this scenario on the numbers.

    Judging from the numbers alone, it looks like Prospect "A" could be very good. Obviously there is caution because he's only been in A- ball, and I don't know if comparing him directly to Braun is a good idea, but I think overall you are correct. We might just have another possible star. Let's hope he can make the the proper adjustments and bump up that OBP.
  6. lightfoot789's Avatar
    No steriod jokes please - I would truly like opinions based on the above facts as they are presented. Which way are you more inclined to go - Excited by prospect "A" or skeptical based on his OBP? What history makes you sway one way or the other?
  7. VandyTwinsFan's Avatar
    I had the initial excitement of getting someone new to roam the outfield, but I'm at the same point. Arcia and Hicks just made it up and have some learning to do, so they need playing time. Parmelee (who I used to be excited about) is pretty much done. Presley played well for us I thought. Who else batted above .280 for over a month? I hoped last year at ST that Mastro was the everyday CF so that Hicks could get more seasoning. Hopefully, he comes back healthy.
    Let Presley and Mastro work on CF. Hicks can play AAA for a few months and then replace the less valuable one. Bringing Buxton up this year is a tad aggressive if you ask me.
    I think Parmelee or Collabello is expendable. Parm plays a better outfield, but we have a plethora of guys like him to throw out there. I still think Collabello deserves an offseason to adjust to pitching.
  8. Physics Guy's Avatar
    Parmelee isn't worth anything right now. The only way he is worth anything is by earning a spot on the roster and performing when given a chance. If not he will be gone soon enough.
  9. beckmt's Avatar
    I also agree. Twins need to find out what they have and move on from the failures(either in 2014 or 2015). I think Parmelee is going to be a failure and needs to be sold now to get any value.
  10. lightfoot789's Avatar
    I agree with you twinsajsf. Let our prospects get their trial by fire in 2014 and go from there. I actually think the Hicks/Arcia/Parmelee / Buxton / Presley / Mastro combination will work for us this year. Why so much talk about the need for a vet in other posting then?
  11. twinsajsf's Avatar
    Nothing. We are at least one year away from contention, so let's just try to find out who can stick amongst the young guys we have: Arcia, Hicks, Parmelee, Presley, Mastro and maybe Buxton/Rosario as the season wears on. Maybe even Plouffe if Sano makes the big jump successfully. Parmelee and Hicks are former 1st Rounders, so let's give them both one more extended MLB tryout before moving on. If we were hoping to contend for a playoff berth in 2014, that would be different, but as it stands there is little downside and significant upside to letting these guys try to emerge as legit MLBers.
  12. Lefty's Avatar
    I too like the idea of Pineda, I just don't think that the Yankees will go for a prospect at 2B. They are built to try and win NOW and always have been. I'm sure they'd take one of our prospects, but only for a bunch of 'go-nowhere' prospects in return. That's just how they roll.
  13. Oldgoat_MN's Avatar
    Really like the idea of aquiring Pineda.

    Cannot imagine the Yankees letting him go, however. They want inexpensive pitchers, too.
  14. jorgenswest's Avatar
    There are other options. Phillips was mentioned above. Infante and Johnson are free agents. David Adams and Corban Joseph have minor league OBPs better than Rosario and have more experience at the upper level of the minors. Rosario's much younger age makes him the better long term prospect, but not the better option for 2014. Dozier home run surge the second half helps, but there is little else to distinguish him for the two Yankee minor leaguers. He probably doesn't sustain the increase in HR/FB rate next year.

    I don't see the motivation on the Yankees part to make this deal.
  15. Brandon's Avatar
    I think there is definitely the potential to match up for a trade if they do not sign Cano and don't trade for Phillips first.
  16. old nurse's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lightfoot789
    Or throw in Willingham or Doumit too?
    By sentiment on the board, shouldn't that be an and not an or between the names?
    Actually for the risk it wouldn't be a top prospect for Pineda. I would guess more of a risk reward prospect
    Updated 11-10-2013 at 08:02 AM by old nurse
  17. lightfoot789's Avatar
    I believe Cano is going back too, but doesn't hurt to give the Yankees some alternatives. Pineda is a reach, but probably has better upside than Worley or May. Could be a great 2 or 3 if he can stay healthy. That can be said about every pitcher though. They are all one pitch away from.......... (Knock on wood)
  18. Twins Daily Admin's Avatar
    I'd be interested in hearing from people in the industry what they think about Pineda now. But I also don't see any way they don't end up with Cano.
  19. Twins Daily Admin's Avatar
    I'd be interested in hearing from people in the industry what they think about Pineda now.
  20. lightfoot789's Avatar
    Or throw in Willingham or Doumit too?
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