Your right about no improvement with this team. The prospects you so thought would be here are just not ready and my guess most of them won't be with this team next spring either. Yes we have good group of players coming but Twins have sold everyone the cavalry is just around the corner. The fact is they are probably not going to make significant impact until late 2015 and then starting in 2016 season. Also we may still not have pitching rotation yet solved yet either. That's why I think its important that Twins start signing some free agent pitching now to get quality pitching. Quality pitching signings require multi year deals and they are signed now will help this team now as well be foundation for this next wave players coming but will be ending soon enough allow young pitching talent place on team in the future. Also the Twins need to look for a shortstop through a trade that's in high minors from another team that has high potential to play at the major league at that position. This has been problem for the Twins going on for over a decade a quality starting shortstop or they need to spend some money on young free agent shortstop but that rarely ever happens top of line free agent shortstop available.
" I hope my opinions are wrong, but I have seen precious little to refute my opinion."
Sadly, everything about this is correct and almost none of it is subjective.
The main two things we got out of 2013 were
1. Brian Dozier may have emerged as a good, solid 2B for the future, and
2. our minor leaguers are a year older.
That is too short a list for a team with over 290 losses in the last 3 years.
I hope that this year appears to have more going for it than 'our minor league players are a year older', which is most of what 2013 gave us.
It may be true that Morneau, Willingham and Doumit would have all been moved had they been performing better. And if ifs and buts were candy and nuts....
I really want the 2014 season to be a clear step forward. If that starts before 2013 draws to a close, all the better.
Well-stated. As the old saying goes, when you're not moving ahead, you're falling behind.
It's wearying to see miserable teams like the Marlins and White Sox match up with the Twins and appear to provide far more hope for the future. Other than Dozier establishing himself and Pinto giving a good September showing, there is little else that the Twins demonstrated that suggested a rebuilding team taking steps leading to anything that could be construed as "improvement".
Halloween costume idea: Slap on a name-tag, 10 different points of flair, carry a serving plate, say "Hello, welcome to Perkins" and go as Terry Ryan
Also think the roster will be far different. Do not expect Parmelle to be here. Also either Doumit or Willingham will probably be gone, as Pinto will have established himself. If Doumit is here, either Pinto will be in AAA or Herrmann will be in AAA with Mauer catching more. Pitching staff needs 1-2 major starters, guessing either or Johnson and Hughes, would like Lincecum, but expect him to draw a qualifying offer. Troops should arrive about midseason next year and 2015 will be brighter if the pitching staff is improved.
I wonder if Parmelee and Colabello would make a good platoon at either 1b or RF next year.
Maybe of this group, 1 or 2 make the Twins next year. More than that would be an issue. I am guessing that Tonkin and Diamond have the best chances. Parmelle has lost his chance to make a statement and with Mauer probably playing first base 50% or more next year, do not see a role for him.
If that is the roster Terry Ryan will not be the GM of the Twins in 2015. That roster means he makes absolutely no moves at all. I'm very doubtful that happens.
This is the same team as 2013, unless you include Presley as a big improvement. How depressing.
Earlier today while reading another post I spent some time trying to find a pre-season interview with Terry Ryan that said more than "if <mumble mumble happens> we'll win our share."
Actually I find the opposite in this December interview:
Mackey: Will Twins compete in 2013? 'We have to be realistic,' GM says | 1500 ESPN Twin Cities ? Minnesota Sports News & Opinion (Twins, Vikings, Wolves, Wild, Gophers) | Sportswire: Minnesota Twins
"I think the goal here is to get better," Ryan said.
He danced around the question of competing in 2013. "We'll try," he said when asked directly. I don't see where he insists. Does someone have a different source to point to where he does?
The real contradiction, in my book, is Terry Ryan insisting that we were going to be competitive this year, then fielding this SP rotation.
Really makes you wonder...
I'd have more respect for him had he acknowledged that this would be a rebuilding year.
Beyond the "patience" mantra, I am wondering about some specifics from the front office and field staff. I question how well they relate to the young guys, particularly the Hispanic players, and I think they need a better plan in dealing with prospects when they break in to the majors (e.g. Hicks and Arcia). The front office is culpable in going with limited pitchers (command and control, pitch to contact) and position players. They have been slow to delve into advanced stats and have been slow to go along with the power bat/power arm combo for a winning team. Further, I question whether the Twins have been prudent in valuing their assets and free agent assets.
"Early returns have the parade starting in 2015."
Which early returns? Are you talking about the success of the youngsters that are supposed to help bring this team back to contention, Hicks, Arcia, Gibson and Parmelee.
Something is broken and it needs to be fixed. I think it is complacency, time to clean house. Do some people deserve to get the boot? Probably not but they are supposed to be in the business of winning so if it is not clear which part is broken, why not replace it all?
Your post is one long contradiction. He's only been back in charge for 21 months so we need to show patience yet you for some reason assume to know his goal, which you state is to avoid a long rebuild. How do you come to that conclusion? Especially when you are also preaching patience?
Nothing a fan board enjoys more than a good firing. Ryan has been back in charge all of 21 months. If you subscribe to the Kansas City or Pittsburgh mode of rebuilding you are quite correct. If you embrace the Twins goal of avoiding a long rebuild, as practiced by Terry Ryan, as many on this board do and seemly more and more of the national media, you will see the wisdom of practicing patience. Early returns have the parade starting in 2015.
Well said, this could have been from last season when they cleaned house besides keeping Gardy and his BFF Rick Anderson. I would also love some new owners that care about putting a good product on the field instead of making $100M+ every year.
I checked the usual suspects for homers by a Twins second baseman. Bernie Allen hit 12 in his rookie year (1962), Rod Carew hit 13 as a 2B in 1975. Chuck Knoblauch hit 13 in '96, Todd Walker hit 12 in 1998, and the current single season home run leader as a second baseman is Tim Tuefel with 14 in 1984.
You are 100% spot on with this article. Dozier is the best thing to come out of this season.
JB, I think that is semantics. They are rebuilding and Ryan is saying that almost everyone is on the table to be moved (Mauer has the no trade). IMHO, except for the Marlins and Astros, the Twins have the longest way to go. There's talent in the minors, but most of it is a long way away. They really, really need to "hit" on pitchers.
#1 The Twins need to admit they are in rebuilding mode not just "trade mode"