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Where Are We Now?

Starting this weekend, baseball will hold its annual Winter Meetings in Las Vegas. The event will get started on Sunday night and wrap up next Thursday with the Rule 5 drafts.

It's been a busy offseason already for the Twins as they have fired a manager, hired a manager and filled his coaching staff. They moved their Double-A affiliate from Chattanooga to Pensacola. Joe Mauer retired. Three players were added to the 40-man roster. The team claimed CJ Cron and then signed him and Ehire Adrianza too. They tended contracts to the rest of their arbitration-eligibles, with the exception of Robbie Grossman. There have been some minor league signings and a whole bunch of rumors.
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As they head to the Winter Meetings, here is a quick look at where they are today. This will give you a better idea of what their needs are and what types of conversations may be had this coming week

Let's take a look around the diamond and see what the Twins roster might look like if the season were to start today. Hopefully it gives Twins fans a glimpse at the work that Derek Falvey and Thad Levine have ahead of them to fill out Rocco Baldelli's first Opening Day roster:


Catcher - Jason Castro, Mitch Garver

Jason Castro is expected to return to the field in 2019 after missing most of 2018 following knee surgery. Mitch Garver showed improvement at the plate and behind the dish. Willians Astudillo can provide some depth as well.

Infield/DH - CJ Cron, Tyler Austin, Jorge Polanco, Miguel Sano, Ehire Adrianza

Cron and Austin would split the first base and DH duties. Miguel Sano and Jorge Polanco will again man the left side of the infield with Sano getting some DH time too. As of today, Ehire Adrianza would probably be the starting second baseman with Nick Gordon continuing to work in Rochester. Oh, and Willians Astudillo can provide some depth as well.

Outfield - Eddie Rosario, Byron Buxton, Max Kepler, Jake Cave

Rosario had another strong season in 2018, cementing himself in the lineup. Buxton struggled early and then broke his toe and was never really given a chance to recover properly. But when healthy and with his legs (and feet and toes) under him, he's the best outfielder in the game. Can his offense be what it was in the second half of 2017? Max Kepler hasn't taken a step forward, but he's provided strong defense and 20 homer power. Jake Cave had a nice second half with the Twins, showing that he can be a big league contributor. Zack Granite and Michael Reed provide the team with other options in the outfield, along with recent 40-man add LaMonte Wade. And again, maybe Willians Astudillo can provide some depth.

Starting Pitchers - Jose Berrios, Kyle Gibson, Jake Odorizzi, Michael Pineda

These four are written into the Twins starting rotation in at least some variety of ink, even if that is that erasable ink that just kind of makes a mess on the paper. Berrios became an All-Star and took a step forward in 2018. Kyle Gibson put together easily his best season and is now just one year away from free agency. Odorizzi is also one year from free agency. He finished pretty strong, and it will be interesting to see how he performs under Baldelli. Pineda will return after Tommy John surgery (and a late-season knee injury), hoping to get back to his old form, which was all-star caliber.

The question becomes...

Fifth Starter Options - Fernando Romero, Kohl Stewart, Stephen Gonsalves, Chase De Jong, Adalberto Mejia, Zack Littell, Aaron Slegers, Lewis Thorpe

The Twins certainly have options for the fifth starter position, and some are more ready than others, and some certainly have a higher ceiling than others. How comfortable would you be with going into the season with one of these eight options as the team's fifth starter?

The Bullpen: Trevor May, Addison Reed, Taylor Rogers, Trevor Hildenberger

I've written before that I think these four are the givens to be in the Twins 2019 Opening Day bullpen (pending trades, injuries, etc.).

The Rest of the Bullpen: Gabriel Moya, Andrew Vasquez, Matt Magill, John Curtiss, Tyler Duffey

Along with this group, the fifth starter options could also factor into the bullpen equation as well. It will be interesting to see what the Twins do, and how the opener fits into that as well. Moya and Vasquez are the lefties. Magill and Duffey and a guy like Mejia could provide length out of the bullpen. And hey, maybe even Willians Astudillo could provide depth.


So, what do the Twins need to do over the remainder of the offseason?

(Note - I didn't say just by the end of the Winter Meetings because as we see every year, the Winter Meetings have some moves, but they are mostly filled with rumors of teams talking and teams talking to agents, etc. Additional note - The Twins will likely have conversations with almost all of the rest of the teams, and with most of the agents. Also, there are actual meetings during the Winter Meetings that front office staffs need to attend.)

1.) Bullpen - I would be surprised if the Twins don't target one or two quality bullpen arms.

2.) Middle Infield - The Twins could target either a second baseman or a shortstop and move Jorge Polanco accordingly. But they will need one. With Nick Gordon likely ready sometime late in 2019 and Royce Lewis likely ready sometime in 2020, will they want a more short-term option?

3.) Starting Pitcher - Of course this can be higher, but I am of the opinion that if you're not going to sign a real difference-maker, just give the young guys a shot. With Gibson and Odorizzi and Pineda all potential free agents following the 2019 season, it is reasonable to go after starters. Patrick Corbin is the pipe dream. Dallas Keuchel and JA Happ would be solid signs. The trade market could be interesting. Personally, I don't like the idea of trading a bunch for Zack Greinke unless the Diamondbacks take back a huge chunk of his remaining salary. 35+ year old pitchers are scary in the long-term. Cleveland has made some starters available, and they would be intriguing. There are likely other pitchers available who are interesting as well (Marcus Stroman could be one).

4.) First base/DH - Even with the signing of CJ Cron and Tyler Austin being on the roster, the Twins could look to add a left-handed hitting first base type. This is less likely if they really like Austin's potential because of the likely need for a 13-man pitching staff at times.

That's where the Twins roster is right this moment, as well as some areas of need.

What do you consider the Twins areas of strength, and how would you prioritize their areas of need this offseason?

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RatherBeGolfing
Dec 04 2018 01:52 PM

 

I disagree strongly with this assessment. Sano and Adrianza can more than adequately man third base. There are other options as well.  But for me, Sano is our 3B, until something happens and he cannot do it. For me, moving Sano to 1B is not an option. Having him DH full time is not an option. He should be at 3B. That's his position.

 

I'm curious why should he be at 3B? Why does that have to be his position? Why so opposed to moving him?

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Battle ur tail off
Dec 04 2018 02:06 PM

 

Nope. It says at least try to add some great players. No place does it say sell the whole future. As opposed to posters who want all the stars to assign before adding expensive players from outside.

 

Yours is the right approach IMO. Twins should always be looking to upgrade, every year with guys that can be here for a few years. People say they aren't ready to contend next year. Yep, they probably are not. But getting a 26 year old stud pitcher should pay dividends for 3-4 more years. When a chance to get a real stud or difference maker is there, if your team can make it happen without screwing up your roster or sadly payroll in the Twins world, you should do it. Waiting around for every player to have career years or be "ready" to contend is a never ending battle with no end in sight. 

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Machado is a great fit for any team. Top 10 players are great fits for any team. Talent wise. Payroll wise is a different story. The Rays went out and signed their superstar to a team friendly deal and still couldn't fill in enough talent around him to ever really threaten for a championship. Signing a guy like Machado out of free agency for one of the two richest contracts in baseball history is not a way to build a contender. The reality is this team is never going to be in a position to sign guys like that while the Pohlads are in charge. Building from within and signing veterans to 3-4 year deals in free agency is how they compete. Blowing up the budget just to say they got a premiere guy is how they win the headlines and lose games. Look at Seattle if you want to see how the works out for teams that can't afford to give long term contracts to guys that won't perform for the entirety of their contract. And their budget is way higher than ours. The Twins can't afford to have huge chunks of wasted payroll. I love Mauer, but if that contract proved anything that was it. Machado is not a smart signing.

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SF Twins Fan
Dec 04 2018 02:25 PM

 

If this is correct, which I hope it isn't, I wouldn't expect the Twins to do anything significant any time soon.

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nicksaviking
Dec 04 2018 02:28 PM

 

 

If this is correct, which I hope it isn't, I wouldn't expect the Twins to do anything significant any time soon.

 

Disappointing.

 

Though I'm happy Wolfson got some intel for us.

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If this is correct, which I hope it isn't, I wouldn't expect the Twins to do anything significant any time soon.


So they're continuing to explore the 1 year contract path. Even when Falvey and Levine admitted that signing players on 1 year deals hurt the team last year.

Wow.
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Battle ur tail off
Dec 04 2018 02:33 PM

 

 

If this is correct, which I hope it isn't, I wouldn't expect the Twins to do anything significant any time soon.

 

It's just business as usual here in Twins territory. One year deals on mid level guys. Yippee. Just bring up guys from the farm if this is the approach. Unless those free agents are complimentary guys, then I guess whatever. 

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SF Twins Fan
Dec 04 2018 02:34 PM

 

So they're continuing to explore the 1 year contract path. Even when Falvey and Levine admitted that signing players on 1 year deals hurt the team last year.

Wow.

 

The only way I'll be ok with this is if it's for a Nelson Cruz or a good bullpen piece. 

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Twins have 21 B- prospects, most clubs do not have 10. This is what I am suggesting to use some of them to improve the major league product. There are many clubs tanking now, time to make some deals.
This does not mean the top prospects, just use some of the near major league talent to improve the Twins

Assuming you're referring to Sickels' rankings?He has 21 Twins prospects as B- or higher (including B-/C+ and C+/B-).So far, Sickels rated 7 orgs, and all 7 have more than 10 of these prospects.MIN leads with 21, KC has 18, ATL 14, CIN 13, LA & BOS 12, SEA 11.Sadly, I don't know if we'll get the other orgs as I'm not sure where Sickels will end up.  

But I think the depth of the Twins prospects might be overstated a little.I don't think a few B- prospects will bring back much MLB talent.IMHO, of course.

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If this is correct, which I hope it isn't, I wouldn't expect the Twins to do anything significant any time soon.

This isn't surprising, just depressing. It doesn't matter who the GM is, ownership isn't going to open up the payroll. We have literally $0 on the books for 2020 but 30m/yr for Machado isn't even possible to discuss. I'm really not surprised but, gah. I don't know if there will ever be a safer blue chip FA option than him. 

 

We'll go into the year with a payroll around 110-120 and we're going to have to see the young core play better. FA is going to be adding fringe parts but not difference makers. It is what it is. Payroll currently sits at about 71. We could add Cruz on something like 2/32m and still add some relief arms. Cruz would really help the team, both for his bat but also for his mentoring. I'd like him to talk to Sano about being an all around hitter.

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To add to my concerns about Buxton and Sano.I know we have been told to be patient and to wait, they are young, but I keep seeing young players coming in and setting the league on fire.Here is an ESPN article about all the 25 and younger new stars:  http://www.espn.com/...league-baseballWe keep waiting and hoping, but we still have to be ready to be realistic.Something went wrong and I wish I knew what it was.But when I keep seeing everyone write we should be going after it in 2019 I think about what we have and this summary was really good, but also "Buxton struggled early and then broke his toe and was never really given a chance to recover properly. But when healthy and with his legs (and feet and toes) under him), he's the best outfielder in the game."Which is not the case.He has the potential to be the best in the game, but it has not happened except for very short stretches.I want us fortified if Buxton and Sano are busts and if they are not - all the better. 

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To add to my concerns about Buxton and Sano.I know we have been told to be patient and to wait, they are young, but I keep seeing young players coming in and setting the league on fire.Here is an ESPN article about all the 25 and younger new stars:  http://www.espn.com/...league-baseballWe keep waiting and hoping, but we still have to be ready to be realistic.Something went wrong and I wish I knew what it was.But when I keep seeing everyone write we should be going after it in 2019 I think about what we have and this summary was really good, but also "Buxton struggled early and then broke his toe and was never really given a chance to recover properly. But when healthy and with his legs (and feet and toes) under him), he's the best outfielder in the game."Which is not the case.He has the potential to be the best in the game, but it has not happened except for very short stretches.I want us fortified if Buxton and Sano are busts and if they are not - all the better. 

Buxton was a 5 WAR player a year ago and Sano was an all-star. I'd put the blame a lot more on Molitor and his staff and assume that the new manager has a few ideas about this. There simply is too much talent in those two guys to assume they'll bust. 

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notoriousgod71
Dec 04 2018 03:30 PM

This roster looks like a 65 win team right now. Adding three or four bargain basement FA makes this team a 68 win team.

 

Make some real moves to show you have some sort of interest in winning for a change.

    • USAFChief, Mike Sixel, Dr. Evil and 2 others like this

 

This isn't surprising, just depressing. It doesn't matter who the GM is, ownership isn't going to open up the payroll. We have literally $0 on the books for 2020 but 30m/yr for Machado isn't even possible to discuss. I'm really not surprised but, gah. I don't know if there will ever be a safer blue chip FA option than him. 

 

We'll go into the year with a payroll around 110-120 and we're going to have to see the young core play better. FA is going to be adding fringe parts but not difference makers. It is what it is. Payroll currently sits at about 71. We could add Cruz on something like 2/32m and still add some relief arms. Cruz would really help the team, both for his bat but also for his mentoring. I'd like him to talk to Sano about being an all around hitter.

It is like blaming Molitor for the team frustration when the FO gave him the players.We really do not know the ownership restrictions.

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It is like blaming Molitor for the team frustration when the FO gave him the players.We really do not know the ownership restrictions.

We have 25+ years of Pohlad ownership. It doesn't matter who the GM is, this is going to be a bottom third payroll team. That's why they hired Falvey and Levine in the first place. 

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nicksaviking
Dec 04 2018 03:59 PM

 

This roster looks like a 65 win team right now. Adding three or four bargain basement FA makes this team a 68 win team.

 

Make some real moves to show you have some sort of interest in winning for a change.

 

I disagree about this being a 65-win team, I think the energy from a new young manager is going to do a lot for this club. However, if you think this is a 65-win club there's probably not enough possible moves that could be made to make this team a real competitor. Does the team winning 75 games make the season any more enjoyable than winning 65?

 

Heck, 85 wins doesn't do much for me, I've long lost interest in watching this team act like a cute little underdog. Wake me up when we're talking 95 wins and the team actually is in the conversation for winning the title.

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The Twins asking for medicals and $ for 3-4 players looks like bullpen and MI fishing. They could be looking at players in need of a rebound year to increase their value. Any of the non tendered players also might fit this description.

 

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This roster looks like a 65 win team right now. Adding three or four bargain basement FA makes this team a 68 win team.

Make some real moves to show you have some sort of interest in winning for a change.


They won 78 games with Buxton and Sano essentially missing the whole season. Not to mention terrible contributions from Dozier, Morrison, etc.

You're really underestimating how bad Kansas City, and Detroit are going to be. Possibly Chicago too.
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ashburyjohn
Dec 04 2018 04:37 PM

The real question is how much Tom and Steve paid Seth to put all those Astrudillo comments in there.

 

Disappointing.

 

Though I'm happy Wolfson got some intel for us.

Willians Astudillo can provide some intel depth as well.

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Sign DJ LeMahieu to a 4 year 50mil(too low?)

Sign Keuchel to a 4 year 100mil

Trade Gordon, Gonsalves, Cave, Mejia, littell is this enough? for Kluber.

Sign 2-3 Bullpen arms.There are plenty of good ones.

 

I would like to sign Moose to rotate at 3B/DH with Sano.Cron, Austin and Sano can also rotate in 1b and DH with who ever is hot at the time.But i am ok with the current three.But i would make signing DJ my priority.  

 

Mad Bum has shoulder issues now and would be a big GIANT NO for me. 

Grienke Is just to old and not worth the time or the money.  

 

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If this is correct, which I hope it isn't, I wouldn't expect the Twins to do anything significant any time soon.


Blechhhhhhhh
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Sign DJ LeMahieu to a 4 year 50mil (too low?)
Sign Keuchel to a 4 year 100mil
Trade Gordon, Gonsalves, Cave, Mejia, littell is this enough? for Kluber.
Sign 2-3 Bullpen arms. There are plenty of good ones.

I would like to sign Moose to rotate at 3B/DH with Sano. Cron, Austin and Sano can also rotate in 1b and DH with who ever is hot at the time. But i am ok with the current three. But i would make signing DJ my priority.

Mad Bum has shoulder issues now and would be a big GIANT NO for me.
Grienke Is just to old and not worth the time or the money.


If they give $50 million to DJ, I'm out.

And no, that's not even a realistic offer for Kluber, not close.
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SF Twins Fan
Dec 04 2018 04:51 PM

 

Sign DJ LeMahieu to a 4 year 50mil(too low?)

Sign Keuchel to a 4 year 100mil

Trade Gordon, Gonsalves, Cave, Mejia, littell is this enough? for Kluber.

Sign 2-3 Bullpen arms.There are plenty of good ones.

 

I would like to sign Moose to rotate at 3B/DH with Sano.Cron, Austin and Sano can also rotate in 1b and DH with who ever is hot at the time.But i am ok with the current three.But i would make signing DJ my priority.  

 

Mad Bum has shoulder issues now and would be a big GIANT NO for me. 

Grienke Is just to old and not worth the time or the money.  

 

 

There is no way Cleveland will trade within the division especially when they're still looking like the best team. Also, I don't believe MadBum has shoulder issues.... he fell off a dirt bike two years ago but he didn't have any issues with it last year. He was hit by a line drive that fractured a bone in his hand last year.

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Are we really going to start criticizing the FO for things that Doogie is "reporting"? I think we'll get more accurate results posting what a magic 8 ball says.
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tarheeltwinsfan
Dec 04 2018 05:00 PM

Get the best fielding SS for the short term ...Iglesias. No more than a 2 year deal. Move Romero and Stewart to BP, just for 1 year. Let Mejia start now...we need a left handed starter.Bring up Jake Reed. I want to see what Jake can do. Keep Vasquez in the pen, along with Rogers, May, Hildy and A. Reed. Sounds like a plan.

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