Jump to content

Providing independent coverage of the Minnesota Twins.
Subscribe to Twins Daily Email

The Forums

Gimenez vs Garver

Minnesota Twins Talk Today, 05:25 AM
Personally, IMHO, part of the overall success and quality play of our beloved Twins this season has been the addition of Castro and Gimin...
Full topic ›

Benching Sano two days in a row

Minnesota Twins Talk Today, 04:55 AM
Seriously? Good lord, every time Molitor takes a step forward he takes 3 steps back. Benching your best player back to back games bc of a...
Full topic ›

Molitor, does he actually "get it"?

Minnesota Twins Talk Today, 04:49 AM
This game was as poorly managed as I have ever seen, guy hasn't improved at all. Baring a playoff berth he better be gone at seasons end.
Full topic ›

Game Thread: Twins v Rays, 5/28 @ 1:10pm CT

Minnesota Twins Talk Yesterday, 11:03 PM
My ten years as a stringer – a freelance sportswriter for The Associated Press – spanned two distinct baseball eras. During the first, 19...
Full topic ›

Twins Roster Projection 2017: Version 3.0

The Twins are less than two weeks from packing up from Ft. Myers and heading north to open the 2017 season. There are currently 48 players on the Twins spring roster which means they have a lot of decisions and transactions to make in the next week to ten days. As I am leaving Ft. Myers, I’m going to try to piece together a projection for the Twins opening day roster. Opinions are mine and certainly subject to change in the coming days.
Image courtesy of Seth Stohs, Twins Daily (photo of Danny Santana)
So here is my third attempt at projecting the Twins Opening Day roster… I encourage you to read my thoughts, develop your own and then post your thoughts and projections in the comments below.


THE HITTERS

Catchers (2): Jason Castro, Chris Gimenez

Jason Castro will be the primary catcher. He will likely catch 110-120 games, so the question will be who can start behind the plate in the other 40-50 games.

Mitch Garver didn’t get much opportunity again this spring, but the manager likes his game. He was sent down on Saturday, his first option. Murphy hasn’t actually played much either. He’s got one option year remaining. Gimenez feels like the leading candidate to be the backup catcher. Veteran leadership plays into that. His ability to play a couple other positions helps.


Infielders (5): Joe Mauer, Brian Dozier, Miguel Sano, Jorge Polanco, Eduardo Escobar

The starting infield is set. Joe Mauer will start most often at first, with Brian Dozier Jorge Polanco and Miguel Sano also starting. None of those are at all surprising. Jorge Polanco’s defense, at least from my opinion, seems to have improved so far this spring, and really in the last three weeks or so. The throws have been more consistently solid.

Escobar is competing with the likes of Ehire Adrianza, Tommy Field and Bengie Gonzalez for the primary utility infield job, but he would certainly still be the favorite. Adrianza is, however, out of options, and Field is not on the 40-man roster. Could the Twins have a second utility infielder?

Still in the game: Ehire Adrianza, Tommy Field, Matt Hague, Bengie Gonzalez


Outfielders (5): Eddie Rosario, Byron Buxton, Max Kepler, Robbie Grossman, Danny Santana

Like the infield, the starting outfield is also pretty well set. Rosario has been starring for Puerto Rico in the WBC. Buxton and Kepler are parts of the next core of Twins players and will get every opportunity this year.

So, the question really becomes the fourth outfielder. I will contend and assume that Grossman will be on the roster, and he has played a lot of outfield this spring, especially with Rosario gone.

And yes, I fully expect Danny Santana to make the Opening Day roster. He is getting a lot of playing time and making starts all around the diamond. Many readers (or at least many of those who choose to comment) aren’t big Santana fans. At the same time, he can hit a little, and he can play adequate defense at six positions. That is kind of the definition of a 25th man.

Still in the game: Drew Stubbs, JB Shuck


Designated Hitter (1): Kennys Vargas

I haven’t had the DH position on its own in the past, but I think it’s worth its own discussion. Kennys Vargas has been the favorite, but he went to the WBC and hasn’t played much. The Twins did get the fourth year option for him, so it’s entirely possible he starts in Rochester. Byungho Park is no longer on the 40-man roster, but he came to spring training healthy and he has hit well this spring. He has a much better walk-to-strikeout rate and looks more comfortable.

And, I wouldn't be opposed to a scenario in which Robbie Grossman is the primary DH. You could keep an extra outfielder around, and you can get DH at-bats for Mauer, Sano and even Dozier or other guys in need of a game off from the field. In that scenario, any one of the extra infielders or outfielders would be added.

I still think Vargas remains the favorite, but he’ll likely have to show something in the two final weeks of spring training.

Still in contention: Byungho Park, Matt Hague, Ben Paulsen

POSSIBLE LINEUPS
Primary lineup versus RHP: Byron Buxton CF, Joe Mauer 1B, Brian Dozier 2B, Miguel Sano 3B, Max Kepler RF, Kennys Vargas DH, Eddie Rosario LF, Jason Castro C, Jorge Polanco SS

Versus LHP: Byron Buxton CF, Robbie Grossman LF, Brian Dozier 2B, Miguel Sano DH, Kennys Vargas 1B, Max Kepler RF, Eduardo Escobar 3B, Chris Gimenez C, Jorge Polanco SS.

Byron Buxton, Brian Dozier, Miguel Sano, Max Kepler and Jorge Polanco are the guys I want in the lineup almost every day. Kennys Vargas is in both lineups, but I would use the DH spot to also give “half days off” to guys like Dozier and Mauer and Grossman as well.


THE PITCHERS

Starting Pitchers (5): Ervin Santana, Phil Hughes, Kyle Gibson, Hector Santiago, Jose Berrios

The first four will be in the starting rotation on Opening Day. We’ve known that for months. The question remains, who will be the fifth starter. Ten days ago, the answer “Trevor May” was becoming much more likely as he was pitching well. Unfortunately, May has a torn UCL and will miss the 2017 season.

I still think that Jose Berrios maintains a slight lead for the fifth starter job. He had a solid performance in his first WBC start, and he could be the starter for Team Puerto Rico in the championship game, if they get there.

Still in contention: Tyler Duffey, Justin Haley, Ryan Vogelsong, and Adalberto Mejia.

Tyler Duffey has made starts the last couple of years. He was terrific in 2015, and he really struggled in 2016. His two-pitch mix would likely play better in the bullpen. Justin Haley struggle again on Sunday, giving up four runs in just two innings. As a Rule 5 pick, much more goes into the decision of whether or not to keep him on the roster than just his performance on the mound. Ryan Vogelsong made a start this week and topped out at 88 but many are impressed with his veteran-ness. Adalberto Mejia’s start this week was very impressive, striking out 11 batters in just 3.2 innings. He’s the “prospect” of this group and has some really good stuff. He’s close.


Bullpen (7): Brandon Kintzler, Ryan Pressly, Matt Belisle, JT Chargois, Taylor Rogers, Craig Breslow, Tyler Duffey.

Brandon Kintzler will go into the season as the closer. Matt Belisle and Ryan Pressly will certainly be set up men. Taylor Rogers has secured one of the left-handed bullpen spots.

With Mike Berardino’s reports that Craig Breslow is likely to be added to the 40-man roster early this week, it also appears that the second left-hander job has been determined.

As I’ve written many times before, JT Chargois should never spend another day in the minor leagues, but I don’t think he’s a given yet. He needs to find a way to improve his efficiency and be more consistent.

So there are six spots taken for a seven-person bullpen. That means there is just one more spot, and there are a lot of options.

So my prediction for today is that Tyler Duffey will be the seventh reliever. His inability to add a third pitch has continued, and his fastball/breaking ball combination could be elite working an inning or two at a time. Also, with the other six, there really isn’t a guy who can go more than two innings. Duffey could do that when needed.

Others in Contention: Michael Tonkin, Justin Haley, Ryan Vogelsong, Ryan O’Rourke, Buddy Boshers.

We’ll see how the final roster cuts come. Some are still quite clear, while others could become really, really interesting over the next ten days.

What are your thoughts? What does your roster look like?

  • dbminn and caninatl04 like this

  • Share:
  • submit to reddit
Subscribe to Twins Daily Email

Subscribe to Twins Daily Email

86 Comments

I think Tonkin and Haley over Chargois and Duffey to start the season. Also i think its a toss up on Santana or that defensive specialist guy
You need to be careful bringing too many guys north for their veteran leadership.
There are only 25 roster spots, at some point there aren't enough young guys around to mentor.
    • Oldgoat_MN, Broker, ToddlerHarmon and 2 others like this
Photo
Deduno Abides
Mar 20 2017 03:33 PM
Giminez may simply be better than Murphy and Garver.


Mejia and Berrios for #4 and #5, over Vogelsong and Santiago. If V & S combine for 2.0 WAR, that will be remarkable. Either Mejia or Berrios could each have 2.0 WAR. The team isn't going anywhere and both have done what they need to do in AAA. It's time to see what kind of mentoring Castro and Neil Smith can do.


Just say no to DanSan. Great athlete, yes, but. . . just no. Outright him and see if anyone wants him.


Park? Why not? Let's see what he can do. If he looks bad on May 31, it's Vargas time.


No Justin Haley. He's going to be 26 in a few months and he might also be the 26th best pitcher in the organization. He's not going to get a lot better. If he weren't a $50,000 Rule 5 pick, there'd be no chance he'd make the majors. It will be sad if that $50,000 (actually, $25,000 after the refund) vaults him over more qualified pitchers.


Is it me, or does anyone else think "veteran leadership" is a euphemism for management saying either "I don't want to be held responsible if we lose a lot while young players take their lumps" or "I don't think the young players are as good as we've been saying for the past few years"?
    • Mike Sixel, beckmt, Oldgoat_MN and 6 others like this

 

I thought we fixed the glitch in regards to D Santana. 

 

MiltonOfficeSpace_thumb.jpg

Apparently he's only been banished to Storage Room B...

    • Oxtung and Vanimal46 like this

 

I see Park as the dh and Vargas either being released or back at AAA.I think Mejia has a real good shot at the rotation.The rest looks likely.

Maybe I'm adding 2 plus 2 and getting 7, but:

  • Park's problem last year started with trying to catch up to MLB fast balls.
  • As we hear from reports from Twins pitchers, they are not up to opening day velocities.So, I assume this may be true for other clubs as well.
  • Maybe Park's stellar states are against these spring training (lower) velocities.
Photo
Brock Beauchamp
Mar 20 2017 03:57 PM

I'm curious why people are willing to give Gibson a guaranteed spot in the rotation but think Santiago should be removed.

 

I think Gibson has a slightly higher chance of being above average but when all is said and done, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Santiago have a better season (as low as that bar may be for both of them).

 

They're basically the same age and Santiago has a longer, better track record.

    • USAFChief, Mike Sixel, beckmt and 6 others like this

I took a shot at my thoughts on who will be the 25 whom the Twins will call upon, yesterday, here.  

 

As far as position players we have the same with the exception that I have Park over Vargas.Vargas has not seen much game time this Spring and Park has been playing very well. Not necessarily my personal preference, but I think that the Twins will bring Santana up North over both Arianza and Bengie Gonzalez (Gonzalez a dark horse here, but has options).I think that the Stubbs train passed.

 

I got the pitching slightly different as well. I just cannot see how Hector Santiago will be ready to start games when he pitched max 2-2/3 innings and even pitched with 2 days rest.I have him in the pen over Duffey (who has options) with both Berios and Mejia making the rotation.The only other difference is that I have Haley over Chargois in the pen.I think that the Twins like Haley enough to keep him and I don't see them working out a trade with the Red Sox.

 

Other than these few differences, it is pretty close.

 

I'm curious why people are willing to give Gibson a guaranteed spot in the rotation but think Santiago should be removed.

 

I think Gibson has a slightly higher chance of being above average but when all is said and done, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Santiago have a better season (as low as that bar may be for both of them).

 

They're basically the same age and Santiago has a longer, better track record.

 

for me, the Twins want more control and strike throwing. That doesn't work for Santiago, he appears to be wildly effective.....so, if they are really going all in on this "control or don't pitch" thing, I have concerns. But, i'd pencil them both in, now that both are signed. 

    • Oldgoat_MN likes this

Gimenez, Belisle, and Breslow are the three new vets Seth has making the team and I agree with this is how it will play out.I'd personally roll with Gimenez and Belisle and keep Boshers.

 

We need a big improvement in pitching, have two veterans in the bullpen who can gets outs and another veteran catcher to work with the staff is not a bad idea.Garver should be catching everyday in Rochester.Anyone really upset about Gimenez taking Murphy's spot?Is anyone really upset that Belisle gets a spot over Tonkin or Duffey?Breslow gets a spot over Boshers?Not to mention most of the guys not making the team that are listed will probably see time due to injuries.If nothing else there's more depth. 

Photo
Deduno Abides
Mar 20 2017 04:57 PM

I'm curious why people are willing to give Gibson a guaranteed spot in the rotation but think Santiago should be removed.
 
I think Gibson has a slightly higher chance of being above average but when all is said and done, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Santiago have a better season (as low as that bar may be for both of them).
 
They're basically the same age and Santiago has a longer, better track record.


Gibson has a better track record - more years with higher WAR, especially averaging the last three years. He costs much less and has years of control remaining. He has more upside if they can fix last year's problems with his delivery. Santiago is losing velocity and has worse control. Santiago's peripheral stats are consistently worse. Santiago's track record is elevated by greatly exceeding his peripherals. As Randall Simon, the one-time All Star, has shown, that is unlikely to continue.
Photo
Buddy Holly
Mar 20 2017 05:23 PM

I will agree that Danny Santana will go north with the team as the 25 man. They will be selling t-shirts with "DanSan 25th man" on front and "no entiendo WAR" on back. 

    • Seth Stohs, Oldgoat_MN, Hosken Bombo Disco and 5 others like this

I'm not convinced Polanco has enough arm for SS. He seems to know it too and rushes his throws. Hopefully they'll be able to keep Adrianza in AAA as a backup. Dozier could still be dealt during the season with Polanco moved to 2B.

Photo
Brock Beauchamp
Mar 20 2017 06:06 PM

Gibson has a better track record - more years with higher WAR, especially averaging the last three years. He costs much less and has years of control remaining. He has more upside if they can fix last year's problems with his delivery. Santiago is losing velocity and has worse control. Santiago's peripheral stats are consistently worse. Santiago's track record is elevated by greatly exceeding his peripherals. As Randall Simon, the one-time All Star, has shown, that is unlikely to continue.

You just illustrated why I have huge problems with fWAR for pitchers.

If a guy "gets lucky" for four consecutive seasons and two different teams, it becomes pretty hard to argue it's "luck" with a straight face.

FIP-based metrics have a place and they're accurate for most players but we need to admit they're flat-out broken for others (e.g. Nolasco, Ricky).
    • Mike Sixel and Oldgoat_MN like this

Santana would be the Twins only pinch runner who can steal a base. That's worth something as the 25th man as well.

 

Wish it was Murphy over Gimenez but it's not important enough.

Photo
diehardtwinsfan
Mar 20 2017 07:07 PM

 

I will agree that Danny Santana will go north with the team as the 25 man. They will be selling t-shirts with "DanSan 25th man" on front and "no entiendo WAR" on back. 

 

You could make money marketing that here.

    • HitInAPinch likes this
Photo
twinssporto
Mar 20 2017 07:54 PM

 

I guess I'm a little confused with the obsession over veteran leadership when we have Santana, Hughes, Castro, Dozier, Mauer plus a few others. How much veteran leadership do you need?

The key word there is leadership.  The veteran part confuses people.  Joe Mauer is a veteran.  I don't think anyone would argue that point...Is he a leader in the club house?  Doesn't look like it to me.  Obviously that is just my opinion but Joe has never struck me as a rallying type of guy.  

 

Not sure of Santana, Hughes, Castro.  Dozier may be the closest to that "leadership" person out of the group you mentioned.

I will say if Danny Santana breaks camp with the team it is a strike against the new front office. This in conjunction to the IMO short sided move of moving Jay to the pen (especially after you lose May) and my optimism is fading fast.

Their is simply no reason for it. NONE.
    • Mike Sixel, Twins33, Oldgoat_MN and 2 others like this
I think you're close Seth. The WBC has messed with preparation time for a few guys and that stinks to high heaven, but it is what it is.

I'd also say Park over Vargas. Vargas is a bit of a favorite of mine, but he just hasn't been here and hasn't played much and still has an option now. Park has simply looked much better than last season and I think he sticks.

Really big on Garver, but getting him playing daily to begin the season with Gimenez as the backup makes some sense. For now at least. Really, has any spot on the team improved more this season than catcher?

I completely agree on Berrios or Mejia as the 5th starter. Vigelsong has shown nothing. There HAS to be room for one of the young starters. And I don't care which one, because the other will be up, and probably soon. There is going to be enough depth, enough options, that we don't have to play the "veteran placeholder" card for the 5th rotation spot.

As long as Grossman is healthy, we have our 4 OF.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think DanSan is the 25th man. I really believe it comes down to him, Adrianza and Gonzalez. Adriana has the leather but not much else. To be fair, his mile numbers aren't bad and opportunity may have eluded him previously. Monitor seems to like Gonzalez, but he could sit at AAA for now. Santana is still young and athletic and Molitor seems to like him. I know we bash him, and rightly so at times, for his "ability" to play 6 positions...but...even playing them average to not so well is still different than tossing an OF in at 2B, or a 1B/DH in to the OF. And he has hit pretty well this far. I'm hoping Goodrum becomes what we hoped Santana would be, and soon, but I think the final spot still goes to DanSan.
Haley has been awful
Would have no chance if he wasn't a rule 5 guy
The FO was 100% wrong taking him.
There are much better guys that have been in the organization a while.
Watched him Sunday against the Red Sox, 87-90, mostly 88...nothing special
    • Mike Sixel, Oldgoat_MN and Dave The Dastardly like this

 

Danny Santana 2017 WAR: Over/Under 0.0?

I don't think the question is if it will be under 0, rather how much under.

    • Oldgoat_MN and Danchat like this
Photo
Deduno Abides
Mar 20 2017 08:57 PM

You just illustrated why I have huge problems with fWAR for pitchers.
If a guy "gets lucky" for four consecutive seasons and two different teams, it becomes pretty hard to argue it's "luck" with a straight face.
FIP-based metrics have a place and they're accurate for most players but we need to admit they're flat-out broken for others (e.g. Nolasco, Ricky).


In terms of BABIP, walk rate, K rate, and hard-medium-soft contact, the average hitter against Santiago last year put up stats similar to Edwin Encarnacion. (Santiago's HR rate was better, but that could be park factors.) In Santiago's "best" year, he won four games. He's really really bad.

 

I also would not mind Mejia over Berrios for the 5th starter. Really anyone over Vogelsong. Though I did get a good chuckle out of this line describing Vogelsong: "many are impressed with his veteran-ness" 

 

Picturing in my head Berrios and Mejia watching in AWE, maybe even recording it on Instagram that a 39 year old can throw a ball 88 MPH. 

 

This made me laugh out loud.....Thank you!

 

I will agree that Danny Santana will go north with the team as the 25 man. They will be selling t-shirts with "DanSan 25th man" on front and "no entiendo WAR" on back. 

Outstanding! (still laughing)

 

Quick mental exercise. If we release DanSan would he be on another MLB 25 man roster on opening day?I for one would bet no, which would make us taking him North...just a wee bit sad.

    • Oldgoat_MN likes this
Here's Mine:

Santana, Gibson, Santiago, Hughes, Mejia, Kinzler, Pressly, Belisle, Rogers, Chargois, Breslow and Haley are the arms.

Castro, Jimenez, Mauer, Dozier, Polanco, Adrianaza, Sano, Escobar, Rosario, Grossman, Buxton, Santana and Kepler are the hitters.

If anyone wants to read a long post... I'll show my work below.

I think you have to work backwards from the current 40 man to end up with the answer.

1. 40 Man is currently full

2. Trevor May will be placed on the 60 Day DL opening up 1 spot.

3. It hasn't been determined what will happen with Perkins but I don't think Perkins will want to wait until June 1 so I think he will be placed on the new 10 day so we won't get a second 40 man slot without exposing someone else to waivers.

4. So... Now you have to ask yourself... who would the Twins (not you or me but the Twins brass) be comfortable losing or believe they can slide through waivers and retain to open up an extra 40 man slot. Bullpen possible 40 man cut considerations: Boshers, O'Rourke, Tonkin and Haley and Position Player Possible 40 man cuts: Santana, Adrianaza and Vargas. I do not believe anybody else on the 40 man is a serious cut consideration.

5. Next you have to determine who they would add to the 40 man roster so they can put them on the 25 man.

6. Gimenez... Gimenez looks like he has clearly out performed Murphy and I think he is the 1st choice to add to the roster and take over May's open 40 man spot. Personally... I'm not a fan of both Garver and Murphy climbing over each other for playing time in Rochester but I think Gimenez is the clear back up choice based on performance in a small sample size and MLB experience.

7. Breslow... If Breslow is making the team and it sounds like he might. Someone has to go off the 40 man to make room. Boshers and O'Rourke have options and do not have to be exposed to waivers and can be stashed as depth and this makes them more valuable in my eyes and that means that either Tonkin or Haley will have to be removed from the 40 man to make room for Breslow. I think they like Haley and would like to keep him around. They had the 1st selection in the rule 5 and could have taken anybody they wanted and this is the guy they wanted. If they can't work out a trade for Haley with Boston... Tonkin has to be the one who is released. I believe someone will claim Tonkin. Say your goodbyes now.

8. The only other option for keeping Tonkin on the roster while making room for Breslow and hanging on to Haley would be for a roster cut of either Santana, Adrianaza or Vargas but you have to ask yourself this... Is Tonkin worth hanging on to at any expense. And perhaps most importantly... Keeping Tonkin means keeping him on the 25 man and that means that either Rogers or Chargois will not have a spot on the 25 man. Tonkin has to be gone.

9. Vogelsong... I think the May injury opened a door for Vogelsong but in the end... common sense will prevail and a 39 year old with an 88 MPH fastball that also hasn't put up good numbers for 4 years and hasn't put up good numbers in Ft. Myers this year... and... and... must be added to the 40 man and cause releasing someone else to accommodate his questionable addition is too much to overcome. I don't think it will happen but if it does... HE BETTER BE WORTH IT!!! His addition will cost us a lefty bullpen option or a Haley... or one of Santana, Adrianaza or Vargas. I wouldn't trade any of those choices straight up for Vogelsong... I just don't see it happening.

10. There should be 13 position player spots available for the 25 man roster. I am assuming that Castro, Gimenez, Mauer, Dozier, Polanco, Escobar, Sano, Rosario, Buxton, Kepler and Grossman are locks. That's 11 and it leaves two positions for Santana, Adrianaza, Vargas, Park or a surprise.

11. Park... He looks great but he was taken off the 40 man and he would have to be re-added to the 40 man in order to make the 25 man and this will cost us a player. No matter how well Park has performed in the spring. I think it's simply easier to stash him in AAA and wait until the 1st injury to call him up. We will have more data on who should come off the 40 man to make room by then and more data on how Park is doing in AAA. He doesn't need to be rushed onto a roster spot.

12. Kennys Vargas... The Twins secured an extra option for Vargas so he can be sent down and I'm betting that there are some in the meeting rooms who are advocating that. And Surprisingly... I also think he should be sent down to Rochester to start the season. Here's the deal... I am personally a big Vargas fan... The ball comes off his bat at 12 Million miles an hour... I think he can become a nice contributor and I've said many times that he was screwed by Molitor last year after having a beautiful July and he is my poster boy as a result. But... Man... He looks real messed up right now. First off... he has been beaten out of the starting Puerto Rico 1B job by someone called TJ Rivera who is the #30 Prospect in the Mets system and not even a 1B. Vargas has played very little and when he has played it has been strikeout after strikeout. The WBC has been horrible for him and he is missing valuable fix whatever is wrong with him time in Ft. Myers. He looks like he has to solve some issues in Rochester.

However... I think if the Twins send him to Rochester... and use up that one option right away... He's done because hat means he gets called up when someone goes on the 15 day DL and he will have a short window to prove himself with possible limited playing time and when someone returns from the DL... he will be exposed to waivers if he doesn't establish himself from the get go and that will be about the same time that other squads will be looking for a big hitter on the cheap to replace an injury or something... So... He will be gone. So in conclusion and in clearly twisted logic. The only chance that Vargas has is: Make the opening day roster when he doesn't look ready and give him the DH job when he doesn't look ready and hope he finds his stroke in the short meantime. Will the Twins do this? I'm not so sure... I would... but will the Twins? I think Point #13 may happen instead.

13. Adrianaza and Santana... Here is where it gets interesting to me... On the Surface it looks simple... Either Adrianaza and Santana for one spot and either Park or Vargas for the other spot and call it done. Neither Adrianaza or Santana have options available and both would have to be exposed to waivers and it is possible that both could clear waivers... But... I think Molitor wants Santana to stay and I think Falvey/Levine want Adrianaza to stay as Polanco defensive insurance. I would be both surprised and not surprised if both Adrianaza and Santana take the final roster spots while Vargas and Park are both in Rochester to start the year. Santana is currently the spring training AB leader and he is playing every single position that Molitor can think of... He is clearly being test drove and I think Adrianaza was added for a reason. I'm not saying this will happen but I am saying that I will not rule this out.

14. Grossman becomes the everyday DH if #13 happens and his time in the OF will be very limited as a result. Vargas and Park will compete real hard for that next man up position. If anyone gets hurt...anyone besides a catcher and Vargas or Park will be called up. Because Grossman can play some OF and we have IF Depth coming out of our ears.

15. Surprise considerations: Let's look at them... I don't think Shuck or Stubbs will make the squad. They haven't lit the grapefruits on fire and that's what they needed to do. Paulsen not likely because it would mean that Paulsen beat Park out for the job in spring training and he did not do that. If Park is going down for convenience than Paulsen can conveniently not make the 25 man.

16. The 5th spot in the rotation. I have ruled Vogelsong out using common sense in point #9. Haley did not grab the job with both hands and will have to be hid in the back of the bullpen instead of thrown directly to the wolves. So unless the Twins grab a last minute cut from another roster which is possible. The 5th spot will go to someone on the 40 man and it's either Berrios, Mejia or Duffey. Flip a three headed coin and stay tuned to TwinsDaily. I'll say Mejia right now based upon that 11 strikeout performance but I will change my mind to Berrios if he is lights out in the WBC Championship game. On the other hand Duffey looked great today and he looked great in 2015.

So... Santana, Gibson, Santiago, Hughes, Mejia, Kinzler, Pressly, Belisle, Rogers, Chargois, Breslow and Haley are the arms.

Castro, Jimenez, Mauer, Dozier, Polanco, Adrianaza, Sano, Escobar, Rosario, Grossman, Buxton, Santana and Kepler are the hitters.

This isn't what I would do... It's what I think the Twins will do.
    • Dave The Dastardly likes this
BTW... What I'd do if I were Falvey/Levine at this very moment,

I'd use the exact same logic for the Rotation and bullpen.

I would have the same 11 position player locks and for the final two spots... I would start both Vargas and Park in Rochester but instead of going with both Adrianaza and Santana. I would get real serious about defense and cut Santana and I would sign Brett Lawrie. Yeah I know... Lawrie isn't exciting anyone right now. He can't stay healthy... Yeah I know... But let's get serious about defense if we are going to take a step in that direction. Lawrie is one of the best defensive 3B in the game and he has a run into walls mentality and some pop. He'd be an exceptional backup who can also play 2B or even OF if needed. With Vargas and Park in AAA... Sano can play an occasional DH while Lawrie plays an occasional 3B.

You don't have to sign him to a 6 year deal. Just a 1 year deal and let's see if he can find that potential he once had. It'll just cost us Santana.
    • Mike Sixel and HitInAPinch like this

Similar Articles


by Tom Froemming , 26 May 2017
Photo


by Off The Baggy , 25 May 2017
Photo


by Cody Christie , 24 May 2017
Photo


by Nick Nelson , 23 May 2017
Photo


by Seth Stohs , 23 May 2017
Photo