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A (pretty accurate) look at the seedings

Minnesota Twins Talk Yesterday, 11:23 PM
Going into the final weekend of the season, the eight-team AL field is nearly set, though no team is locked into its seed. Here's what I...
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The Robes

Minnesota Twins Talk Yesterday, 11:12 PM
It’s hokey, but I don’t think the fact that Donaldson gifted everyone on the team their own robes, and they have turned it into a “thing”...
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GAME THREAD 9/25/20 Twins vs. Reds 7:10 CDT.

Minnesota Twins Talk Yesterday, 10:15 PM
The Twins are in 1st place. The offense is starting to find itself. Edwar Colina is up with the big league squad. Is there anything else...
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Relevant magic numbers with tiebreakers accounted for

Minnesota Twins Talk Yesterday, 07:58 PM
After the games of 9/22:   TB over Min: 2 CWS over Min: 4 Oak over Min: 5 Min over Cle: 2 Min over NYY: 4
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The Perfect Length of a Baseball Season?

Other Baseball Yesterday, 09:36 PM
So Twitter got me thinking... What's the perfect length of baseball season? And then what's the perfect playoffs to be paired with that s...
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Twins Notebook 8/15: Let’s Play 1.556!

I think you’re going to like this, if you allow yourself to. It may seem strange that Major League Baseball doubleheaders are being played as seven-inning games, but it’s yet another adaptation of a rule that’s been around in the minor leagues. And you know what? I think it’s fun.
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Twins vs. Royals
Game 1: 12:35 pm
Jake Odorizzi vs. Ian Kennedy

Game 2: 30 minutes following the conclusion of Game 1
José Berrios vs. Danny Duffy


Baseball is resistant to change, and that’s a good thing for the most part. The traditions and familiarity that go along with the game are comforting. Every once in a while, however, it’s nice to see something new.

We’ll be seeing something new this afternoon, as the Twins and Royals play a doubleheader of games scheduled for seven innings. A negative traditionalist might look down their nose at the plan to play abbreviated games, but coming into today’s tilt with an open mind may help uncover a fun element to this.

These games are more immediate and intense.

Earlier this month, the Reds and Tigers became the first teams to take part in a doubleheader this season. The Reds swept, taking Game 1 after scoring the go-ahead run in the top of the seventh (and final) inning before riding a (seven-inning) complete game shutout from Trevor Bauer in Game 2. The bottom hitters in Detroit’s lineup got just two plate appearances in that second game.

Time’s short, you’d better make the most of your opportunities.

Here’s what Nick Senzel of the Reds had to say about the experience, as reported by The Sporting News:

“Those seven innings, everyone’s really locked in to every single pitch,” he said. “Because you erase two innings, so much is going on. I think the intensity is there, for sure, in both those seven-inning games.

“The seven-inning doubleheader, we kind of liked.”

This odd 2020 season has created opportunities for all sorts of new, weird baseball math. Every game is essentially the equivalent to 2.7 games compared to the 162-game season. Well today, every out will be like it’s worth the equivalent of 1.286 outs compared to a nine-inning game.

Embrace the weird.

— Sometime this morning the Twins are expected to announce the 29th man added to their roster for this doubleheader.

UPDATE: It's Sean Poppen.

Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reported that a Reds player has tested positive for COVID-19. Tonight’s Reds-Pirates game has been postponed.

Josh Norris of Baseball America reported that MLB is considering increasing the alternate site player pool by roughly 15.

CLE 10, DET 5

1. MIN 12-7 (+33 run differential)
2. CLE 11-9 (+16)
3. DET 9-8 (-7)
4. CHW 10-9 (-1)
5. KCR 8-11 (-5)

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Twins had better score early and often.Royals bullpen is very tough


Looks like Sean Poppen got added for today's 14 innings. Heck, if they were both nine inning games I would consider driving downtown and buying a ticket.


Will one of today's games go extra innings so we get to see the other change to the rules? 

Every game is essentially the equivalent to 2.7 games compared to the 162-game season. Well today, every out will be like it’s worth the equivalent of 1.286 outs compared to a nine-inning game.


That means that every out today is worth 3.47 normal outs. One double play wipes out more than 2 innings of a normal season!

I think the 7 inning double dip will be fun/fascinating. It's easier to embrace change when you have no choice :) Prediction... high scoring and Twins sweep

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Aug 15 2020 11:17 AM

The Cardinals are trying to play 21 games in the last 17 days of the month, 55 games by the end of September. This is unprecedented in our lifetimes, and I find it fascinating. Anyone who likes Ernie "let's play two" Banks should be all over this. 


So much divisiveness and bad news in the world; thank god for baseball. I'm loving the experimentation going on! Hate to see what has brought baseball to this point, but glad to see the resiliency.

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Aug 15 2020 11:33 AM


That means that every out today is worth 3.47 normal outs. One double play wipes out more than 2 innings of a normal season!

At first I thought your math was off, but when I realized you were considering a 162-game season I found that your numbers were approximately right. I say approximately because there are two things that were not accounted for: extra-inning games and home team wins. That said, due to the fact that I'm too lazy to determine the adjustments that need to be made I'll give you full credit for your calculations.

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Aug 15 2020 02:11 PM
Thinking of this this morning. Genetically speaking, and disregarding the question of whether a bullpen game is a good strategy, if a team has a Saturday doubleheader and a Sunday game, without off days before and after, when is the best time to use the bullpen game?

Is it one of the seven-inning games, figuring that you only need to get through perhaps five guys without one getting shelled vs. needing to get through perhaps seven guys?

Or do you go the traditional route in the doubleheader, hoping you get perhaps five innings from one starter and six from the other, meaning that you only needed three innings of relief and hopefully have a well-rested pen for the bullpen game? The risk is a starter getting shelled and having used a bunch of guys heading into the bullpen game.

If it doesn’t mess with a starter’s psyche, I wonder if it makes sense to assume two starters, but if the first guy goes six, or better yet, seven, switch to the bullpen for Game 2. The bullpen is well rested for the bullpen game, and hopefully doesn’t get depleted heading into the 9-inning game. But if the first game pitcher gets shellacked and only goes two or three, better start the starter in Game 2 so you don’t have to get 12 innings from the pen in a single day.

What other thoughts?




I love the seven innings.No way would I go to a double header with nine innings each in this time of bloated games.I am not in favor of spending 9 hours at the ball park eating and drinking over priced items. When we took our annual trip to Milwaukee to see the Braves in the 1950s a game took 2 1/2 hours. We could enjoy the game, the zoo, and dinner and it was a great day.