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Twins Game Recap (9/17): Twins Win Wild Game on a Walk Off Hit-By-Pitch

This game had pretty much everything you could ask for from a great baseball game. An historic home run, three different comebacks to tie the game, and a walk-off hit-by-pitch by Ronald Torreyes. When all was said and done, 22 different Minnesota Twins played a part in their 9-8 win over the Chicago White Sox.
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Box Score
Perez: 4.2 IP, 10 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 70.3% strikes (45 of 64 pitches)
Home Runs: LaMarre (1), Sano (30)
Multi-Hit Games: Rosario (3 for 6, 2 2B), Gonzalez (3 for 6), Arraez (3 for 6, 2B)
WPA of +0.1: Gonzalez .359, Rosario .307, Wade .254, Torreyes .164, Rogers .144, LaMarre .122, Romo .111, Cruz .102,
WPA of -0.1: Harper -.402, Sano -.214, Littell -.145, May -.143, Polanco -.114, Schoop -.100

After the Twins failed to hit a home run in their 5-3 win over the White Sox last night, it was Ryan LaMarre of all people who hit the Twins first home run of the series, leading off the bottom of the third inning. It was just LaMarre’s third home run of his major league career. The homer drew this great reaction from Minnesota Timberwolves head coach Ryan Saunders.



Later in the third inning, Miguel Sano helped the Twins make more major league history, when he belted his 30th home run of the season, making the 2019 Minnesota Twins the first team to ever have five different 30-home run hitters in the same season. Sano’s home run traveled 482 feet, and became the second longest home run in Target Field history, behind only Jim Thome’s 490 foot blast back in 2011.



Unfortunately for the Twins, the pitching staff was unable to hold the 5-0 lead they were given. Martin Perez was hit all over the yard tonight, giving up 10 hits in just 4- 2/3 innings. Somehow, he managed to give up just three runs. In the top of the sixth, Trevor May gave up home runs to Zack Collings and Adam Engel on back-to-back pitches, and just like that the game was tied.

Tyler Duffey had another excellent outing tonight, striking out the White Sox' 3-4-5 hitters in the top of the seventh inning. Duffey has now worked 22 consecutive scoreless outings, dating back to July 28th. Over that time, Duffey has 33 strikeouts to just five walks in 19 2/3 innings pitched and has lowered his ERA from 3.82 down to 2.39.

It was Sergio Romo’s turn in the top of the eighth inning to keep the score tied at five. Which is just what he did, getting a couple of big strikeouts with a runner on first to end the inning. However, he did so with an obvious limp after every pitch. The Twins came out to chat with him about it, be he insisted he was fine and stayed in the game to get the final two hitters. It will be worth monitoring this situation in the coming days to make sure nothing comes from it.

Both Taylor Rogers and Zack Littell had to work out of jams in the top of the ninth and the top of the tenth respectively, to give the Twins hitters extra chances to try to win the game. The first two batters reached against Rogers via an error by Jorge Polanco, and a fielder’s choice by Rogers, when he tried to make the play at second after fielding a comebacker but was late with the throw. However, he was able to battle back by inducing a double play and getting Eloy Jimenez to strike out. In the tenth, Littell gave up two singles to lead off the inning. Then, after a sac bunt, Rocco Baldelli decided to load the bases with an intentional walk. That moved paid off, as Littell got a pop out and a flyout to get out of the jam.

The Twins weren’t as fortunate in the 11th inning as they had been in the innings prior, as Tim Anderson led off the inning with a no-doubter off Zack Littell. Littell did a nice job not surrendering any more runs in the inning, keeping the White Sox lead at just one run. This played out huge for the Twins in the bottom of the inning, when Jonathan Schoop led off the inning with a single. He got pinch run for by LaMonte Wade Jr., who advanced to second on a C.J. Cron ground out, and to third on a wild pitch that barely got away from the White Sox catcher. This aggressive base running kept the Twins alive, as Mitch Garver came through with a sac fly to tie the game back up at six.

In the 12th inning, Rocco Baldelli turned to Ryne Harper to get three outs, and the Twins bats back up with a chance to win the game. Harper did get those three outs However, that wasn’t until after he had surrendered a two-run home run to Ryan Cordell, giving the White Sox a 8-6 lead. Harper nearly gave up a few more runs, as the White Sox had first and third with two outs, but Harper got Eloy Jimenez to ground out to end the inning.

The Twins may have been down but they certainly weren’t out of it, with the middle of their order due up in the bottom of the 12th. Nelson Cruz got the rally started with a lead off single, which was immediately followed by a double from Eddie Rosario, and just like that the Twins were in business. Then Miguel Sano came to the plate, and was immediately set down on three pitches. After Sano came Marwin Gonzalez, who after falling behind in the count, came through with a base hit to bring both Cruz and Rosario around to score, tying the game at eight. However, the Twins weren’t done quite yet. Luis Arraez followed up Gonzalez’s single with one of his own, Arraez’s third hit of the game. That brought LaMonte Wade Jr. up to the plate and he smacked a line-drive single up the middle. Fortunately for the Twins, Tony Diaz has learned from his mistakes earlier in the season, and held Gonzalez at third on a throw that would have had him out by 30 feet. This loaded the bases for Ronald Torreyes, who came in as a defensive replacement for C.J. Cron in the top of the 12th, and this happened.



Postgame With Baldelli



Bullpen Usage
Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:

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So, now we have a situation where Rogers, Duffey and Romo have all pitched on consecutive days and 3 of the last 4. Littell threw 40 last night. And even Trevor May has thrown 40 over the last 4 days. I would presume all 5 unavailable tonight. Smeltzer, Thorpe and Dobnak all had extended outings over the weekend. Smeltzer MIGHT be available. So, that leaves Romero, Hildenberger, Graterol, Stewart, Harper and Alcala.
Score early. Score often.


We scored early and often last night, too.

All I want is just one more run than them ... no more, no less.
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Last walk off HBP in MLB?

8-31-17: Chicago at Minnesota. After the White Sox take a 4-3 lead in the top of the 9th, Max Kepler's 2 out HBP drives in Brian Dozier to complete a 2 run rally.

Winning pitcher: Matt Belisle.
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Might be an opportunity to see Alcala pitch.
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IMO, that game eliminated Perez from the playoff roster, if Rocco can't trust him to get one out in the 5th against the white sox with a two run lead, how can he trust him to get any outs against a playoff team?

I am not a Perez fan, but it seemed like the first time ever (I am sure it wasn't) that he was trying to be economical with his pitches, he only had 64 pitches in 4 2/3 innings. The hits he was giving up in the 5th were not pounded besides Engel. (Garcia rolled it though the shift on the right side, Abreu hit a bloop to right on a really good pitch low and away, and Moncada hit a single to right.

Kind of a double edge sword for the starters, run up your pitch count and get pulled early or try to keep the pitch count down by throwing strikes and giving up some hits and get pulled early, it is no wonder why Ordo and Gibson nibble all the time.

 

 

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We scored early and often last night, too.

All I want is just one more run than them ... no more, no less.

So maybe score early, often and continuous.I know we scored 5 runs in the 3rd but there is a reason Smalley and Morneau say you have to change the number when you score big early. 

 

Ok, I know he doesn't deserve the win and that he didn't pitch well but my old coach used to preach that you never knew how many runs you needed to score or how many you needed to limit the other team to until it was all over so you just need to keep plugging.That two run homer hurt but Harper hung in there and battled to keep it at just two runs. As it turns out that was exactly what was needed.. I won't give him a lot of credit but i will give him some. 

Cmon at least a-- misdeamor 

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So I get home at midnight expecting to watch the replay of the game and pre season Wild hockey is on......really? This sucks.

I thought in Minnesota everything hockey just short of Lou Nanne's career NHL highlight reel takes precedent over all.

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Hosken Bombo Disco
Sep 18 2019 08:32 AM
At least you won’t be forcibly removed from a bar anymore, for requesting to put the Twins game on. :)
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SpicyGarvSauce
Sep 18 2019 08:38 AM

 

On the play at 3B, don't know why McCann double-clutched unless Moncada was not at the bag yet, which, if true, Wade was weighing that as part of the equation of making a break for it.

 

I went to bed after the Anderson bomb.

 

Three times now this season that's happened that the morning has a happy ending included.

Right. A lot of times the base runner, in that situation, isn't stealing off of the catcher. Rather, a number of other factors (such as the fielders positioning, etc.).

I confess...I turned it off after the two runhomer in the top of the 12th.I was nodding off anyway...I need to watch the replay.

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yarnivek1972
Sep 18 2019 08:40 AM

Big opportunity for a Brusdar breakout. But don't forget, they also used 6 relievers, and three more threw 36 pitches over 3.2 innings the night before.

Score early. Score often.

AMEN!


The White Sox aren’t trying to clinch a division title.
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SpicyGarvSauce
Sep 18 2019 08:40 AM

A win is a win, but the ineptitude of the White Sox really got Rocco off the hook last night - why is Harper being used in high leverage situations at all? It made no sense to bring him in when you had a rested Graterol or Romero. I assume he is saving Dobnak, Smeltzer, and Thorpe for the weekend but come on - using Harper in that situation was a bone headed move.

 

Having Odo go 7 tonight would be huge, but unexpected. Twins have struggled against Nova too, so maybe tonight is the night they bust out.

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Hosken Bombo Disco
Sep 18 2019 08:45 AM

Right. A lot of times the base runner, in that situation, isn't stealing off of the catcher. Rather, a number of other factors (such as the fielders positioning, etc.).

The radio guys said Wade had a great secondary lead, and broke for third instantly.

Great hustle, great play. What more could you ask for.
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birdwatcher
Sep 18 2019 09:04 AM

 

I feel bad for Harper. He had a good season going earlier on. He pitched in a lot of big spots and pitched well for us. He shouldn't be disparaged and cast off like he's nothing (I've read other comments about him here).

 

 

 

Yeah, instead of lamenting the use of Harper, we might want to consider how lucky we are that they've introduced us to 7-8 relievers since his demotion that are better options than he is.

 

I find it interesting that we disparage all these pitchers, and remarkably they end up being good enough for some other team: Magill, Eades, Morin, Parker, Mejia (who'd I miss?) are all playing for someone else. Harper would find a home real quick-like. What does that tell us?

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Went to bed with the game in the 10th.Continued watching until the top of the 12th was finished with the Twins down 8-6.Gave control of the remote to my wife who put the sleep timer on and changed to Home and Garden as I went to sleep.Woke up this morning and put CNBC on to check the pre market around 4:30 and saw the scores scroll across the bottom.Had to wait until they came around a second time to believe what I had seen.

 

I haven't been a huge fan of Lamonte Wade.No real reason, other than he just never did anything that I could get excited about...as I do about Kirilloff, Rooker, Larnach now or Span and others back when.As I watch him get more playing time the last week or so I am warming.Doubt we will see him on next year's opening day roster.But assuming he has more options, he certainly is someone that can play at AAA and be available when the Twins have an injury to one of the four outfielders on their 2020 roster.

 

I expect the magic number to be between 1 and 3 when they depart for their season ending road trip Sunday night.If they are, the division title is secure.Should it be 4, 5 or 6, they are gonna have to play very good ball next week.But I don't see 4-6 as likely as wins in 3 of the remaining 5 games this week and at least one loss by Cleveland puts their number at 3.  

 

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VivaBomboRivera!
Sep 18 2019 09:10 AM

 

The White Sox aren’t trying to clinch a division title.

Good, maybe that makes them ready to roll over.;-)

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Dave The Dastardly
Sep 18 2019 09:22 AM

 

Yeah, instead of lamenting the use of Harper, we might want to consider how lucky we are that they've introduced us to 7-8 relievers since his demotion that are better options than he is.

 

I find it interesting that we disparage all these pitchers, and remarkably they end up being good enough for some other team: Magill, Eades, Morin, Parker, Mejia (who's I miss?) are all playing for someone else. Harper would find a home real quick-like. What does that tell us?

Shaggy?

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MMMordabito
Sep 18 2019 10:00 AM

 

Might be an opportunity to see Alcala pitch.

Yep, draw it up ... Odorizzi for 5.2, Stashak 1.1, Graterol 1.0, Alcala 1.0 .... Hit 5 bombas and sweep the Sox out of town!

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wins like this are fun and a W is always good, but the workload on an overloaded bullpen is a problem.What would we have done if the limits for September had been in place this year?

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yarnivek1972
Sep 18 2019 10:31 AM

A win is a win, but the ineptitude of the White Sox really got Rocco off the hook last night - why is Harper being used in high leverage situations at all? It made no sense to bring him in when you had a rested Graterol or Romero. I assume he is saving Dobnak, Smeltzer, and Thorpe for the weekend but come on - using Harper in that situation was a bone headed move.

Having Odo go 7 tonight would be huge, but unexpected. Twins have struggled against Nova too, so maybe tonight is the night they bust out.


I’m not sure I would call Romero a better option. Graterol maybe, but he’s got 5 MLB innings under his belt.
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SpicyGarvSauce
Sep 18 2019 10:39 AM

 

I’m not sure I would call Romero a better option. Graterol maybe, but he’s got 5 MLB innings under his belt.

 

Why not?

 

Romero at least has stuff that can get a K when needed and be successful. The book is out on Harper. Lay off the breaking pitch, and sit on his fastball and absolutely crush it - which is what the guy did.

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sampleSizeOfOne
Sep 18 2019 10:39 AM
The graph of win probability makes me think of a seismic anomaly.
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Yep, draw it up ... Odorizzi for 5.2, Stashak 1.1, Graterol 1.0, Alcala 1.0 .... Hit 5 bombas and sweep the Sox out of town!

Make it so.

So I stayed up till 4am watching the replay of a great win! The good part is they cut out a lot of our pitching due to time constraints! The Rally Squirrel was hilarious sitting on the dugout! I'm going to the game Fri (send prayers and wishes for NO rain) and I'm taking a rally squirrel and homer hankey!
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Alex Schieferdecker
Sep 18 2019 11:16 AM

Poor FSN, they understandably figured the LaMarre at-bat was safe to interview Saunders.

 

But no time is safe with this team.

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