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Twins Game Recap (8/21): Giolito Throws Complete Game as Sox Take Series

After a huge night from the Minnesota Twins’ offense that was led by Nelson Cruz, and a perfect night from the bullpen, the Twins were set up to win the series today as Jake Odorizzi faced off against Lucas Giolito. Odorizzi ran into trouble early and Giolito sailed through the Twins’ lineup as the White Sox take a series in Minnesota. For the Mets, Marcus Stroman gets his second chance against the Indians in less than a month to help the Twins and keep their lead at three games.
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Box Score
Odorizzi: 5 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 6 K, 62.5% strikes (65 of 104 pitches)
Bullpen: 4 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Home Runs: None
Multi-Hit Games: None

Bottom 3 WPA: Rosario, Arraez and Castro -.055, Sano -.056, Odorizzi -.163

Giolito Sails to Complete Game

Giolito absolutely cruised through the Twins offense today after getting some early runs from his offense. He used those first-inning runs and first-pitch strikes to really settle down and go deep into today’s game. Giolito struck out 12 batters, his third straight game with 10+, and got first-pitch strikes on 22 of the 30 batters he faced.

The first time through the Twins’ order, Giolito gave up just one hit, which was to Polanco in the first on a bunt, and struck out five batters. The Twins picked up their second hit in the fourth on a rocket by Nelson Cruz that had an exit velocity of 117 MPH, but Giolito got two outs on the next two batters.

He worked through the fifth and sixth innings very rapidly, using only eight and nine pitches, respectively, to get two more 1-2-3 innings. In the seventh inning, it took him 12 pitches to get the 1-2-3 mostly because Cruz worked a full count then drilled a ball straight to Engel in center field.

He had two very impressive streaks of consecutive batters sent down. After the Polanco bunt single, he set down the next nine batters before Cruz picked up his single. Rosario reached on a fielder's choice the next at-bat and then Giolito sent down the next 11 batters including three straight 1-2-3 innings.

It wasn’t until Schoop hit a double with one out in the eighth that the Twins’ had their first runner in scoring position. They failed to do anything with it as Giolito picked up two more strikeouts to end the inning. Giolito completed this game while facing the Twins’ top three hitters picking up two more strikeouts on Kepler and Cruz.

Odorizzi’s Bad Luck

If you just looked at the box score, you’d get a different view of how today’s game went for Odorizzi. Odorizzi struggled to retire the first batter of innings which helped lead to a short start and the White Sox hitters also seemed to be finding the perfect spots for their hits. But, Odorizzi also was throwing some good pitches that hitters were putting in play for hits.

In the first inning, Polanco missed touching second base on a double-play attempt which was originally called a FC, but changed to an error on Polanco, his 17th this season. Jose Abreu reached on 2-2 cutter, poking the ball into left field for the White Sox to score their first run. After a wild pitch, Skole also found himself in a 2-2 count, and a hit a blooper over second with an exit velocity of 67.7 for the Sox's second run of the inning.

In the third, Odorizzi again gave up a leadoff single, and two singles later, which included Abreu’s second RBI of the game on a ball that landed perfectly in right field between Cave and Schoop with an expected batting average of .050. After three innings, the White Sox had seven hits, all singles, with only two of them being hard-hit, and three runs.

In the fifth inning, Odorizzi gave up another leadoff hit, but this time for a double. After getting a strikeout and a groundout, Odorizzi looked as if he would be able to pitch around this. He threw another wild pitch and Abreu was able to come around to score. Odorizzi was able to strike out Goins to end the inning, but this is definitely a start Odorizzi is going to want to forget.

Bullpen Solid Again

A night after the bullpen had a perfect two innings to help secure the win, the bullpen again was shut-down today, though Giolito’s very solid outing kept the offense at bay.

Ryne Harper was the first one out of the pen and ran into some trouble after a leadoff double, wild pitch and walk, putting himself in a jam. He was able to pick up a huge fly out and strikeout, then Polanco made an amazing snag to end the threat and inning.



Then it turned to Sam Dyson and Tyler Duffey who each had quick and easy 1-2-3 innings. Dyson looked really solid, and since coming back from injury, has given up just one run in five innings. Duffey came in for the eighth and struck out two hitters and hasn’t given up a run in his past 11 outings.

Trevor May got the ninth inning and struck out the first batter he faced, then gave up a single, but got an infield fly out and a fly ball to Arraez to end the inning. May has now only given up one earned run in his last 11 innings.

Postgame With Baldelli


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AlwaysinModeration
Aug 21 2019 09:58 PM

Hand blows another save.


He has been pretty consistent in giving up late leads recently.
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Certainly, 2 of 3 or even a sweep to basically bury the Indians wasn’t too much to ask here.

Although, we did get the White Sox at an awful time. Nova and Giolito have been exceptional lately. We were “buzzsawed.”

 

Imagine the audacity of a manager letting a young fragile 25 year-old pitcher, with already 80 pitches after 7 and throwing a 2 hit shutout with only 8 Ks...... finish the game! What is he thinking, letting his young pitcher develop his stamina and have the opportunity to pitch a complete game and use 115 pitches, against a 1st place team? Can it possibly be worth it? I mean, does the confidence developed really mean anything? He will get a chance for a complete game shutout often, right?

 

Note: Our guy, Jose Berrios, pitching a 2 hit shutout with 11Ks, was pulled after 7 innings and 83 pitches against the last place Marlins. He has gotten shelled twice, and struggled the other outing, since. Can confidence really be a thing? 

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Kind of pathetic when we have to send a thank-you postcard to the Mets.

 

squirrel postcard

 

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For the first half of the season the Twins starters were very solid and the relievers were OK (good enough to hold big leads). In the middle of the season the starters saw a bit of a drop off but were still decent while the relievers had some major struggles with a good chunk of the bullpen getting released. Now in the home stretch, the starters are getting pounded and the bullpen is looking surprisingly capable. I'm very happy that the bullpen seems much improved, I just wish I had confidence that our rotation is going to be good enough to hold on to the Twins lead over Cleveland.

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theBOMisthebomb
Aug 22 2019 12:49 AM
It was a boring game to attend. Watching the other team's pitcher dominate is not fun in my book. I know we are supposed to be good baseball fans and carry on about how great pitching is more entertaining than good hitting. Maybe so and 1-0 pitcher's duel can be entertaining - that I agree with. Getting your doors blown off with no exciting plays is a drag. Oh well, a day at the ballpark is still better than being at the office.
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VivaBomboRivera!
Aug 22 2019 01:02 AM

O faithless Squirrel!Thy perfidy!

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They need to get Kepler out of the lead-off spot. The offense will always look great when the Bomba show is on, but when it's not you still need to manufacture runs. Put Arreaz in the lead-off spot and drop Kepler to 4th. 

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VivaBomboRivera!
Aug 22 2019 02:43 AM

 

They need to get Kepler out of the lead-off spot. The offense will always look great when the Bomba show is on, but when it's not you still need to manufacture runs. Put Arreaz in the lead-off spot and drop Kepler to 4th. 

 

As fantastic as Mad Max is, we are not getting the best we could from him in the number one spot.He swings at a good number of first balls.Often the results are gratifying but there are also a large number of leadoff outs that were never worked as opportunities to go deep in the count for walk (now 53 in 468 AB) as well as a hit. 

 

This shows up in his .334 OBP, 11th on the team behind names like Adrianza, Arraez, Cave and Polanco, players he could push around the base paths .

 

Kepler is second on team now in RBI (84) to Rosario (85).Imagine where that number might be if he was in the 3rd or 4th spot.How many of his 34 HR are solo shots? We are cheating ourselves.

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MVP Nick Punto
Aug 22 2019 03:23 AM
Actual footage of Giolito pitching to the Twins 20190821:

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Imagine the audacity of a manager letting a young fragile 25 year-old pitcher, with already 80 pitches after 7 and throwing a 2 hit shutout with only 8 Ks...... finish the game! What is he thinking, letting his young pitcher develop his stamina and have the opportunity to pitch a complete game and use 115 pitches, against a 1st place team? Can it possibly be worth it? I mean, does the confidence developed really mean anything? He will get a chance for a complete game shutout often, right?

 

Note: Our guy, Jose Berrios, pitching a 2 hit shutout with 11Ks, was pulled after 7 innings and 83 pitches against the last place Marlins. He has gotten shelled twice, and struggled the other outing, since. Can confidence really be a thing? 

 

Twins were up 7-0 after 7 against one of the worst offenses in the league.Why try and overuse Berrios when they don't need to?A CGSO is nice, but in the long run, save that arm.  

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VivaBomboRivera!
Aug 22 2019 04:52 AM

 

Actual footage of Giolito pitching to the Twins 20190821...

 

Gotta tip your cap to a pitching performance like that.Then you resolve to stick him next time.

 

The hard lesson from this game is that pitching (or lack thereof) is what most consistently wins games, more so late- and post-season.Our staff has to improve from "good" to "good enough."

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At least the Twins improved in the RLISP category. No point in nit picking at this stage of the season. Just keep playing and see what happens. The Twins will finish where they are supposed to finish. I would like to see Marwin in the lineup more often. The time to keep everyone fresh is over. Play the best lineup every game. Say what you want but Twins played the best prior to Sano's return with Gonzales at third base. Jake got bad breaks in the first with routine grounders finding their way into the outfield and Schoop missing the bag. Wouldn't have made any difference but it did give Giolito early breathing room.

 

I don’t think the Twins will need to worry about a second starter in the playoffs.

 

Self Depriavation COL (chuckle out loud) 

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SpicyGarvSauce
Aug 22 2019 08:43 AM

The easier easy part of the schedule is coming. Just wait.

 

I think.

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Aerodeliria
Aug 22 2019 08:54 AM
Giolito is not going to pitch like this every single time out, but he is going to pitch like this sometimes because he's a very good pitcher. I have no problem with today's game. This happens to every team during the year against good pitchers. Monday's game on the other hand......
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Cap'n Piranha
Aug 22 2019 09:35 AM

The difference between May and Duffey being options 2A and 2B, and May and Duffey being options 4A and 4B is absolutely massive.

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Cap'n Piranha
Aug 22 2019 09:40 AM

 

Giolito did exactly what an "Ace" is supposed to do. A rubber match and he took the ball and made sure the opposing team knew who was in control. The Twins do not have that pitcher.

Which teams have that guy(s):

Cleveland

Houston

LA

That's exactly why the Twins are still favored to win the division but the Indians are favored to advance further into the playoffs.

 

According to Fangraphs, the Twins have a better chance than the Indians to make the playoffs (97.8 to 81.5), make the ALDS (89.1 to 51.8), make the ALCS (36.4 to 20.7), make the World Series (15.0 to 9.1), and win the World Series (7.2 to 4.6).

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According to Fangraphs, the Twins have a better chance than the Indians to make the playoffs (97.8 to 81.5), make the ALDS (89.1 to 51.8), make the ALCS (36.4 to 20.7), make the World Series (15.0 to 9.1), and win the World Series (7.2 to 4.6).

Those odds are all based on each other. If you are less likely to make the playoffs than another team, or less likely to make it as a division champ as opposed to a wild card, your subsequent odds of making the next round will be lower too, even if both teams are technically projected to identical future performance.

So the poster could be correct that the Indians could be favored to advance more than the Twins assuming they both enter in equal position/circumstance.

That said, I'm not sure what evidence suggests Cleveland would be favored to advance, even if we normalized the other factors (current record/schedule, division vs wild card). I don't know of any source that publishes such odds. It could be someone's opinion, though.

 

Giolito did exactly what an "Ace" is supposed to do. A rubber match and he took the ball and made sure the opposing team knew who was in control. The Twins do not have that pitcher.

Which teams have that guy(s):

Cleveland

Houston

LA

That's exactly why the Twins are still favored to win the division but the Indians are favored to advance further into the playoffs.

 

Yep and the Twins could have drafted him.

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Twins were up 7-0 after 7 against one of the worst offenses in the league.Why try and overuse Berrios when they don't need to?A CGSO is nice, but in the long run, save that arm.  

 

And how is that working out for Jose since? You know, he was kept in the blowout worst game of his career for a merciless 97 pitches the next game against Atlanta to get shelled for 9 earned. Seems a bit inconsistent..... the saving the arm thing. Two games in a row with reverse confidence bolstering (now 4), no? Confidence. The silent factor.

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lukeduke1980
Aug 22 2019 12:09 PM

 

The difference between May and Duffey being options 2A and 2B, and May and Duffey being options 4A and 4B is absolutely massive.

Duffey has moved up to 3-B IMHO, maybe 3A until he throws hangs his next curveball

Starting Sept 3, 3 at Boston then 6 at home vs Cleveland then Washington., then to Cleveland for 3 more. Those 12 games are what makes or breaks the Twins this season
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Starting Sept 3, 3 at Boston then 6 at home vs Cleveland then Washington., then to Cleveland for 3 more. Those 12 games are what makes or breaks the Twins this season

 

Seems that taking care of business against the bottom of the Central at home (and away) is very key as well. 

Come on....... Giolito didn't pitch that well! It was just the Twins didn't get any hits this day.:talk028:

Seems that taking care of business against the bottom of the Central at home (and away) is very key as well.

yes an absolute must, and I believe the Twins will do that. For some reason they have a hard time at home, so just keep winning on the road and they’ll be fine, yet they need to at least break even at home

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