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Twins Game Recap (8/11): Frustrating Loss Marred by Heartbreaking Moments

The Twins finished off this four game set with the Indians with a frustrating loss highlighted by a Marwin Gonzalez double with Ehire Adrianza being thrown out at home and Carlos Santana crushing a grand slam in extra innings. Cleveland will head home tied with the Twins atop the AL Central.
Box Score
Berrios: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 68.8% strikes (66 of 96 pitches)
Bullpen: 4 IP, 3 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
Home Runs: None
Multi-Hit Games: Rosario (2-for-4), Arraez (2-for-3), Cron (2-for-4)

Top 3 WPA: Gonzalez (0.21), Arraez (0.18), Rosario (0.14)
Bottom 3 WPA: Rogers (-0.48), Schoop (-0.22), Kepler (-0.18)

Berrios struggles out of the gate

This game started with the Twins ace Jose Berrios on the mound looking for redemption from his last time out. This start certainly didn’t begin the way Berrios wanted with a first inning home run from Greg Allen, followed by a walk and an RBI double from Yasiel Puig.

Berrios allowed another run in the third inning on a seeing eye RBI single from Carlos Santana to make it 3-1 Indians. Jose Berrios definitely did not have his best stuff yet again but was able to work through six solid innings.

Twins offense nowhere to be found

The Minnesota Twins came into this game with an advantage going up against Cleveland’s number five starter Aaron Civale who was making just his third career MLB start. The Twins just could not get the bats going. The only early run was from a Rosario double and then two sacrifice flyballs.

The Twins fight back to tie it but another frustrating ending occurs

After scoring just one run all day, the Twins fought back in the ninth inning against Brad Hand with a chance to walk it off. Eddie Rosario started the inning with a double, Arraez singled to make it 3-2 and then Cron singled to give Marwin a chance to end it. I’ll just let this tweet do the talking.



Gonzalez came up clutch with an RBI double but the momentum was immediately killed when third base coach Tony Diaz decided to send Adrianza and he was about by about a mile. The catcher would have had time to catch the ball, go fill his car with gas, stop for lunch and then come back to home plate and Adrianza still would have been out. It was the second time this series where there was a send from third and it was not a close play at all. You are all welcome to vent in the comments.

With the momentum back on the Indians side, the tenth inning went sideways for Minnesota. Rogers gave up a single, walked Lindor on four pitches and then a well- placed bunt single loaded the bases for Carlos Santana. You probably thought “hey it might be all right because Rogers is elite.” Well, Santana crushed a grand slam to give the Indians a 7-3 lead and crush our spirits.

Cleveland takes the series and leaves Minnesota with a first place tie.

The Twins desperately needed a split at the least in this series. Cleveland was coming at them like an avalanche but starting pitching struggles mixed with untimely hitting came at the worst possible time in the season. The Twins will head to Milwaukee for a two-game set while Cleveland will host Boston for three. The Twins now have to hope to take care of business until they meet up with Cleveland again.

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I don't know what would have happened after that out at home, had he not sent him.But count me among those who would not have done so.The only Twin I might have considered sending there would have been Buxton.But with his speed he would have been well beyond third sooner that AD.

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In My La-Z-boy
Aug 12 2019 06:48 AM

Perspective is what is needed. I am more optimistic this morning, than last night. I would have totally agreed with darius last night on each and every point. This morning I am optimistic we get a day off - we hit the road - we re-group, and we forge ahead and make a run of it. I am saddened to start understanding this is not our year. But it probably never was, and is just our 1st year of an excellent window of opportunity coming. We don't have the pitching, and our in-game management, and our in-game execution isn't there in the crucial moments. We were out managed, and out executed yesterday. Not too mention out pitched. I am still having way more fun than 2011-2014, and if this season's results were reversed - our collective fans attitude would be just the opposite. Today we sit tied with our nemesis - we have alot to play for in Aug/Sept in 2019. I'll take it. I am not ready for football yet.

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Is there a place to find how many outs at home plate a team has made?It feels like we have had a lot recently - not just Adrianza, but Cron...

 

With 2 outs, I have absolutely zero problems with Diaz sending Adrianza there. The only issue I have was that there was just 1 out.

 

That said, you all can blame Diaz all you want. I personally blame yesterday's loss on Taylor Rogers. He's been great this year, and maybe he was over-worked, but if you give up 4 runs in 1/3 of an inning in a huge game, you failed. An absolutely dud of an effort by Rogers, who deservedly got the loss.

This was a boring game. The Twins were not hitting well.

 

Yes the 3rd base coach made a big Carlos Gomez-like blunder, but the Twins were only in that position because they'd been chasing pitches all day.

 

Personally I would not have marched Rogers out there two nights in a row in a non-save situation. This move reminded me of when Gardenhire kept showing the Yankees Latroy Hawkins in the 2003 ALDS. It worked well the first time, not so well after that.

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He isn't going to publicly admonish Diaz and rightfully so. 

 

Privately, he better at least bang the stapler real hard.:)

I"m willing to be Diaz didn't get much sleep last night.

What annoys me is, as a fan, I'm not paid to know better than to send Adrianza, yet, even I knew better.

 

Usually, I shrug stuff off, but some things I find to be inexcusable and sending Adrianza with only one out is definitely one of them.

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The Cleve's relay to get Ehire at home was exceptional. I thought sending him was the right call at first until I saw that 3B coach could already see stellar play and throw by LF and ball coming into all star Lindor's glove when he waved him home. Even with Schoop due up next, you have to hold him.

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longstrangetrip
Aug 12 2019 08:27 AM

Ok, it looks like it's almost unanimous that Diaz blundered on the send.I agree. But his call was in the heat of the moment and mistakes happen, so I give him a begrudging pass.But I'm wondering if anyone else here was at the game, and if so, why Tommy Watkins isn't being criticized too.With the shift on, Cleveland's first baseman was 25 feet off the bag.But for some unexplainable reason, Adrianza's lead on every pitch during Gonzalez's AB was only about half that.My group of four was screaming at Ehire to get a more aggressive lead, but we were in the third base boxes and the crowd was loud, so he stayed with his insufficient lead.If Adrianza had been properly leading off with the first baseman so far off the bag, he likely scores on the double even with the Tribe playing perfect defense...especially with the very high bounce the ball took off the fence. Shame on Ehire for not reading the situation better, and shame on Tommy Watkins for not doing his job.The first base coach is responsible for almost nothing except monitoring the baserunner's lead, and instead of doing that he is facing Gonzalez and clapping for him.  

 

Yes, Diaz made a bad call, but Watkins and Ehire's blunder is equally at fault for this loss. 

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Personally I would not have marched Rogers out there two nights in a row in a non-save situation. This move reminded me of when Gardenhire kept showing the Yankees Latroy Hawkins in the 2003 ALDS. It worked well the first time, not so well after that.

It's not as if Gardy had a lot of options that year though, especially after Johan exited early in game 1. Rincon wasn't that good yet, and Romero had a tough year. That pen was basically Hawkins and Guardado (and Guardado gave up runs in both of his appearances too).

 

Perspective is what is needed. I am more optimistic this morning, than last night. I would have totally agreed with darius last night on each and every point. This morning I am optimistic we get a day off - we hit the road - we re-group, and we forge ahead and make a run of it. I am saddened to start understanding this is not our year. But it probably never was, and is just our 1st year of an excellent window of opportunity coming. We don't have the pitching, and our in-game management, and our in-game execution isn't there in the crucial moments. We were out managed, and out executed yesterday. Not too mention out pitched. I am still having way more fun than 2011-2014, and if this season's results were reversed - our collective fans attitude would be just the opposite. Today we sit tied with our nemesis - we have alot to play for in Aug/Sept in 2019. I'll take it. I am not ready for football yet.

Honest question- why does everyone talk about this "window" opening? My comment is not aimed at this particular post/author, a number of people are talking about it. 

 

Schoop, Cron, Cruz, Perez, Odorizzi, Pineda and Castro could all be gone after this season (Cruz and Cron will likely re-sign, but they aren't young cornerstones).

 

Polanco started hot, now is trailing off. Berrios is trending in the wrong direction. Buxton can't stay on the field. Sano is a crapshoot from game-to-game. 

 

Sure, all of Graterol, Alcala, Balazovic, Kiriloff, Larnach etc could all pan out and we could have a great team, but it's not likely. 

 

This was the year, all the stuff the FO threw at the wall offensively worked better than they could have imagined, and they needed arms. They chose not to do anything at all during the offseason, then whined that the price was too high at the deadline. 

 

I guess I don't fully understand the narrative that this team has a ton of pieces in place to be some sort of great team for the next decade. 

 

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It's not as if Gardy had a lot of options that year though, especially after Johan exited early in game 1. Rincon wasn't that good yet, and Romero had a tough year. That pen was basically Hawkins and Guardado (and Guardado gave up runs in both of his appearances too).

 

As Tom Kelly said in defense of having Straker on the playoff roster in 87, Rincon and Romero were two guys who helped get them there.

 

Ok, it looks like it's almost unanimous that Diaz blundered on the send.I agree. But his call was in the heat of the moment and mistakes happen, so I give him a begrudging pass.But I'm wondering if anyone else here was at the game, and if so, why Tommy Watkins isn't being criticized too.With the shift on, Cleveland's first baseman was 25 feet off the bag.But for some unexplainable reason, Adrianza's lead on every pitch during Gonzalez's AB was only about half that.My group of four was screaming at Ehire to get a more aggressive lead, but we were in the third base boxes and the crowd was loud, so he stayed with his insufficient lead.If Adrianza had been properly leading off with the first baseman so far off the bag, he likely scores on the double even with the Tribe playing perfect defense...especially with the very high bounce the ball took off the fence. Shame on Ehire for not reading the situation better, and shame on Tommy Watkins for not doing his job.The first base coach is responsible for almost nothing except monitoring the baserunner's lead, and instead of doing that he is facing Gonzalez and clapping for him.  

 

Yes, Diaz made a bad call, but Watkins and Ehire's blunder is equally at fault for this loss. 

 

Looking at the replay, I wonder if Naquin should have been playing deeper, so he could have had a play on that ball? It wasn't a high fly, but it was far from a line drive either, and it bounced before the wall. As you note, the runner on first was so important, Cleveland should have been playing its best "no doubles" defense, and Marwin was batting RH and Hand was consistently pitching him inside, so it would make sense to have the left fielder playing as deep as possible, to be able to make a play on exactly this type of hit behind him.

 

A lot of factors involved! I totally understand the criticism of the send with only 1 out and the game already tied, but we were sure battering them around that inning -- it was frankly a bit surprising that all of Naquin, Lindor, and the catcher made solid plays.

 

 

Honest question- why does everyone talk about this "window" opening? My comment is not aimed at this particular post/author, a number of people are talking about it. 

 

Schoop, Cron, Cruz, Perez, Odorizzi, Pineda and Castro could all be gone after this season (Cruz and Cron will likely re-sign, but they aren't young cornerstones).

 

Polanco started hot, now is trailing off. Berrios is trending in the wrong direction. Buxton can't stay on the field. Sano is a crapshoot from game-to-game. 

 

Sure, all of Graterol, Alcala, Balazovic, Kiriloff, Larnach etc could all pan out and we could have a great team, but it's not likely. 

 

This was the year, all the stuff the FO threw at the wall offensively worked better than they could have imagined, and they needed arms. They chose not to do anything at all during the offseason, then whined that the price was too high at the deadline. 

 

I guess I don't fully understand the narrative that this team has a ton of pieces in place to be some sort of great team for the next decade. 

 

True, but remember Gardenhire kept getting the team into the playoffs in spite of rapid roster turnover like this. Of course, those teams played defense....

 

I think this team is on the cusp of putting together a few good years. Next year could be a step back, but the year after won't. Players clearly like Baldelli and for a rookie manager he has not made as many mistakes as one might expect.

 

As Tom Kelly said in defense of having Straker on the playoff roster in 87, Rincon and Romero were two guys who helped get them there.

The Straker comment makes sense -- we needed a third starter, and he was clearly the only viable starter beyond our top 2 that season.

 

But Hawkins had the top game-entering leverage index on the staff in 2003. Pitching him in a tight spot in the 7th inning, even after pitching the day before, certainly "helped get them there" more than Rincon and his average leverage index that season. (Rincon wound up walking 4 Yankees in his 2.1 lower leverage innings anyway, so I sort of doubt he would have fared much better in Latroy's spot in game 2.)

 

Romero's leverage index was higher than Rincon's, but of course he was a lefty specialist -- bringing him in to face Soriano and then Jeter with a runner in scoring position and only 1 out was certainly not part of what "helped get them there". (FWIW, Romero came on after Hawkins in game 2 and gave up a single anyway, to a LHB no less, an outcome which would have lost the game just the same.)

I don't think it's fair to call Romero a lefty specialist. Both him and Rincon were the best setup pitchers I ever saw in a Twins uniform. Seeing them come up to pitch the 8th was almost always a good sign.

 

Though, yes, I think they were both juicing....

 

I don't think it's fair to call Romero a lefty specialist. Both him and Rincon were the best setup pitchers I ever saw in a Twins uniform. Seeing them come up to pitch the 8th was almost always a good sign.

No one was saying that in October 2003. Romero had just been battered to the tune of a .929 OPS vs RHB that season, on his way to a 5.00 ERA, and Rincon turned in a pedestrian 3.68 ERA with 4.0 BB/9 and only 6.6 K/9 in average leverage use, in his best MLB season to date.

 

2002 Romero was great, as was 2004 Rincon, but Gardy turning to them in that spot in 2003 would have been like TK going with Smithson or Portugal over Straker in the 1987 postseason.

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SpicyGarvSauce
Aug 12 2019 09:32 AM

Are we sure Scottie Ullger didn't take over coaching 3rd base in that 9th inning?

The weekend series clarified things for the Twins. Cleveland is the better team because of its superior pitching. It lost three starters -- Kluber, Carrasco, and Bauer -- and got better in the process. (Imagine if the Twins had lost three starters.)

 

The Twins are likely to be a wild card team and rather quickly ousted. The clarity achieved is this: A big upgrade in starting pitching is needed for next season. 

 

And let us remember to put all this in context: The Twins are 24 games over .500 and right now we're all kind of disappointed.

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The Twins are likely to be a wild card team and rather quickly ousted. The clarity achieved is this: A big upgrade in starting pitching is needed for next season.

 

If Houston gets the top seed, a wildcard berth is the best scenario for the Twins.

 

If the Yankees get the top seed, which suddenly seems very possible, then the Twins had better take care of the division.

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Battle ur tail off
Aug 12 2019 09:59 AM

 

 

I think this team is on the cusp of putting together a few good years. Next year could be a step back, but the year after won't. Players clearly like Baldelli and for a rookie manager he has not made as many mistakes as one might expect.

 

So, what makes you think that next year is a step back and the year after won't be?

 

The pitching coming up? Because as of now, our minor leagues has produced Berrios and that's about it really. You know they won't trade for anyone, or buy a good starter, right? I think this year was the year and their chance. Do I think we could still be good for a few years? Heck yeah, they should be. But I don't think you will have this kind of offense again, maybe ever. Realize, what the Twins are doing this year with the bat is historic for this franchise. 

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Hosken Bombo Disco
Aug 12 2019 10:15 AM

If Houston gets the top seed, a wildcard berth is the best scenario for the Twins.
 
If the Yankees get the top seed, which suddenly seems very possible, then the Twins had better take care of the division.

You keep saying this. I think the Twins match up much better against the Yankees than the Astros. At least as far as the Twins batters vs the opponents pitching.
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twinsnorth49
Aug 12 2019 10:25 AM

The weekend series clarified things for the Twins. Cleveland is the better team because of its superior pitching. It lost three starters -- Kluber, Carrasco, and Bauer -- and got better in the process. (Imagine if the Twins had lost three starters.)

The Twins are likely to be a wild card team and rather quickly ousted. The clarity achieved is this: A big upgrade in starting pitching is needed for next season.

And let us remember to put all this in context: The Twins are 24 games over .500 and right now we're all kind of disappointed.


I’m not disappointed. The Twins have exceeded my expectations this season and I’ll continue to enjoy the ride. There is some disappointment in the pitching staff not being bolstered before the deadline but anyone who thought this team would be 24 games over .500 and in the midst of a pennant race, is not being very honest with themselves.

The things that were a concern for this team during the off season are still there, most of us went into the season expected those problems to effect the performance of the team, and right now they are. The bats went crazy and the team hit homeruns at a record pace and we all got fat and sassy about it. Now, because the old reality has crept back in, the entitlement around here is pretty interesting to watch.

I’m going to just see what happens, life is too short to piss and moan everyday.
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Actually it’s about 65-70% likely that they score a run with runners on second and third with one out. The average run expectancy with that situation is 1.4 runs.

Perhaps, but that assumes an average player was up next and not Jonathon "Clutch" Schoop. There is an 80% chance he would have struck out or popped up.

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yarnivek1972
Aug 12 2019 11:00 AM

With 2 outs, I have absolutely zero problems with Diaz sending Adrianza there. The only issue I have was that there was just 1 out.

That said, you all can blame Diaz all you want. I personally blame yesterday's loss on Taylor Rogers. He's been great this year, and maybe he was over-worked, but if you give up 4 runs in 1/3 of an inning in a huge game, you failed. An absolutely dud of an effort by Rogers, who deservedly got the loss.


Really??

You’re going to lay blame on a guy who was brought in less than 18 hours after throwing 30 plus extremely high leverage pitches?

REALLY?

Maybe assign some blame to those responsible for the team being forced to do that.
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